RIP Sarah Everard, who went missing from Brixton in March 2021

[Kevbad the Bad]

I went to a Hooters in the US with a group of friends. It wasn’t very good, my mate was convinced he could get the number of the waitress as she was flirting and chatting with him

If I want fast food, sports and beers, I’d go for Buffalo Wild Wings anyway which I’ve always enjoyed.

It’s a shame the sports bar concept doesn’t work in the UK as well as it does over there, largely as only football really has tribal followings (too tribal that’s the problem as seen with the violence at Wembley this year) and there’s a bit of a gap in the summer offseason, whereas the US has the big 4 sports which cover all the seasons.

I went to a Hooters in the States as well. My boss took me there one lunch time. I'd never heard of it before. What impressed me was the complete disdain and contempt that the waitresses held for the punters. I was also shocked at the reaction of my work colleagues to a waiter wearing a kilt. They were shocked. You couldn't make it up.

 

[David Clapson]

'Yet another rapist'.

There've been a few recent stories of policemen asking victims for their phone numbers so they can chat them up/ask them out. I'm 1000% certain that this is so widespread as to be normal behaviour, and seen as a perk of the job. Many times it will lead to sexual encounters with vulnerable women who go through the motions of consenting but are in fact being skilfully and ruthlessly raped. The law wouldn't see it as rape, but to me it's at least as bad as taking advantage of a woman because she's drunk.

Oh look. Big surprise. ‘My friends called him PC Perv’: the police officers who prey on crime victims for sex

 

[SpookyFrank]

Latest plan from Killer Dick is for solo plainclothes filth to do a video chat with a uniformed officer to confirm their identity if arresting a woman. Which is fine as long as no filth are rapists, and no rapists have a mate who can dress up as a copper.

 

[Gramsci]

Latest plan from Killer Dick is for solo plainclothes filth to do a video chat with a uniformed officer to confirm their identity if arresting a woman. Which is fine as long as no filth are rapists, and no rapists have a mate who can dress up as a copper.

I thought this might be a joke.

But it's not.

Women's safety: Police video calls to verify Met officers

Dame Cressida Dick announces a new system for the Met after the kidnap and murder of Sarah Everard.

www.bbc.co.uk

Cressida Dick the coppers copper.

She really does back up her boys on the beat.

I can only believe this is serious suggestion if one sees Cressida Dick as management.

Bringing in laughable policy to allay public fears of the Cops. Typical management exercise in deflecting bad PR.

Another reason for her to go.

She needs some lessons in PR.

 

[Pickman's model]

I thought this might be a joke.

But it's not.

Women's safety: Police video calls to verify Met officers

Dame Cressida Dick announces a new system for the Met after the kidnap and murder of Sarah Everard.

www.bbc.co.uk

Cressida Dick the coppers copper.

She really does back up her boys on the beat.

I can only believe this is serious suggestion if one sees Cressida Dick as management.

Bringing in laughable policy to allay public fears of the Cops. Typical management exercise in deflecting bad PR.

Another reason for her to go.

She needs some lessons in PR.

She needs some lessons in signing on

 

[SpookyFrank]

I thought this might be a joke.

But it's not.

Yeah there's a lot of that going round at the moment.

 

[LeytonCatLady]

Cross-posted with someone else.

 

[Pickman's model]

I thought this might be a joke.

But it's not.

Women's safety: Police video calls to verify Met officers

Dame Cressida Dick announces a new system for the Met after the kidnap and murder of Sarah Everard.

www.bbc.co.uk

Cressida Dick the coppers copper.

She really does back up her boys on the beat.

I can only believe this is serious suggestion if one sees Cressida Dick as management.

Bringing in laughable policy to allay public fears of the Cops. Typical management exercise in deflecting bad PR.

Another reason for her to go.

She needs some lessons in PR.

her shitty plan ripped top shreads here

'He was a police officer': Met bashed for new ‘Safe Connection’ plan

A new initiative has been launched to reassure women after Sarah Everard's death. It hasn't gone down well.

www.thelondoneconomic.com

 

[Raheem]

I'm not sure this is completely useless. Couzens thought he could get away with it. If there had been a call to base, his contact with Sarah would have been logged and he wouldn't have committed the crime (because it would have been impossible for him not to get linked to the disappearance).

I guess what he might have done, though, is try different women until he found someone who didn't ask for a call to be made.

 

[Pickman's model]

I'm not sure this is completely useless. Couzens thought he could get away with it. If there had been a call to base, his contact with Sarah would have been logged and he wouldn't have committed the crime (because it would have been impossible for him not to get linked to the disappearance).

I guess what he might have done, though, is try different women until he found someone who didn't ask for a call to be made.

or as has been said simply got a mate in a cop's uniform to vouch for him. anyway the people in the control room would have said yer man's a cop because er he was a cop

 

[Gramsci]

her shitty plan ripped top shreads here

'He was a police officer': Met bashed for new ‘Safe Connection’ plan

A new initiative has been launched to reassure women after Sarah Everard's death. It hasn't gone down well.

www.thelondoneconomic.com

Read the article. Some of the twitter comments make good points

This Met leadership initiative is about sidelining the real issue. The person who raped and murdered Sarah Everard is a police officer. This is supposed to rebuild trust when it's not addressing the real problem. It's not about people pretending to be police officers.

I'm not surprised Cressida Dick came up with this.

Back when a Brazilian was killed in operation she bungled smears were put out that perhaps he was a visa overstayer. So his supposed shifty behaviour meant that he contributed to being mistaken for terrorist.

Anything after the fact to deflect attention from the real issue here.

 

[8ball]

The person who raped and murdered Sarah Everard is a police officer. This is supposed to rebuild trust when it's not addressing the real problem. It's not about people pretending to be police officers.

How can they still not get it?
Do they think if they keep pretending that people will forget?

Do women need to ask if the officer is known as "the rapist" back at the nick?

 

[SpookyFrank]

Going down like the proverbial cup of cold sick. Why they can't find a single actual human being to run this kind of shit past before going public with it I've no idea.

E2a: Or maybe it's supposed to crash and burn. Then Dick and the met can throw up their hands and say, 'we tried our best to change, but all they wanted to do was hurt our feelings'. This in turn becomes an excuse to further close ranks and to escalate the existing policy of being a fucking disgraceful shower of australopithecine brutes.

 

[bimble]

Just get rid of these people, 'reflective practice' my arse.

Five police officers face hearings over messages about Sarah Everard case

Watchdog says allegations, if proven, have capacity to further undermine public confidence in policing

www.theguardian.com

 

[5t3IIa]

Pigs are going to relentlessly pig:

 

[scalyboy]

Just get rid of these people, 'reflective practice' my arse.

Five police officers face hearings over messages about Sarah Everard case

Watchdog says allegations, if proven, have capacity to further undermine public confidence in policing

www.theguardian.com

Can't they see how this looks? Just reinforces the general public's view of the police as still having an 'us-and-them' canteen culture. They stagger from one PR disaster to the next

 

[existentialist]

Can't they see how this looks? Just reinforces the general public's view of the police as still having an 'us-and-them' canteen culture. They stagger from one PR disaster to the next

I think that the answer to your question is "No, they can't".

 

[tim]

Pigs are going to relentlessly pig:

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There is a genuine appeal on Twitter from West Yorkshire Police for a missing person of that name.

 

[LeytonCatLady]

There is a genuine appeal on Twitter from West Yorkshire Police for a missing person of that name.

They're being tone deaf at best.

 

[Orang Utan]

They're being tone deaf at best.

I don’t think it’s a real post

 

[SpookyFrank]

I'm not sure this is completely useless. Couzens thought he could get away with it. If there had been a call to base, his contact with Sarah would have been logged and he wouldn't have committed the crime (because it would have been impossible for him not to get linked to the disappearance).

I guess what he might have done, though, is try different women until he found someone who didn't ask for a call to be made.

It's this idea that Couzens would have been thwarted if Sarah Everard had insisted he phone his station to confirm the arrest was legitimate. He didn't care about the rule that says, 'don't rape and murder people' so I doubt he'd have given two shits about a rule that says, 'phone a friend before you do it'.

 

[SpookyFrank]

I think that the answer to your question is "No, they can't".

More like, 'there's no reason for them to care how it looks because they know their arses are covered no matter what'.

 

[Orang Utan]

I don’t think it’s a real post

I take it back. Just looked at their FB page and they’re apologising for it, claiming ‘unauthorised access’ was responsible. Chinny reckon
( the missing young woman has been found safe and well btw)

 

[tim]

They're being tone deaf at best.

It's a fake, though.

Edited to add: Except, as OU has pointed out, it's not a fake.

 

[Raheem]

It's this idea that Couzens would have been thwarted if Sarah Everard had insisted he phone his station to confirm the arrest was legitimate. He didn't care about the rule that says, 'don't rape and murder people' so I doubt he'd have given two shits about a rule that says, 'phone a friend before you do it'.

But if it was a thing that most people knew that you had a right to get a lone cop to ring the station, the cop's refusal is likely to be enough of a red flag that the next Sarah E doesn't get in the car.

Like I said, it's possible that he would have just tried different women until he found one who didn't ask for a call, but I think the best you can hope for from a single measure is that it puts obstacles in the way of someone like Couzens. Stopping them altogether is going to require multiple measures, but that doesn't make the individual measures pointless.

 

[xenon]

But if it was a thing that most people knew that you had a right to get a lone cop to ring the station, the cop's refusal is likely to be enough of a red flag that the next Sarah E doesn't get in the car.

Like I said, it's possible that he would have just tried different women until he found one who didn't ask for a call, but I think the best you can hope for from a single measure is that it puts obstacles in the way of someone like Couzens. Stopping them altogether is going to require multiple measures, but that doesn't make the individual measures pointless.

This was proposed for plane clothes officers making arrests.
Was Couzins wearing a uniform?
But anyway, there are no rapists or predatory cops in uniform of course, as anyone doing a cursery websearch can find out.

And officers who have the nickname the rapist couldn't possibly have colleagues that would just casually back them up over a video call. not because they themselves are necesarily mysognaists or in some horrendous pact with scum like Couzins. But group dynamics, possibly a junior colleague, not really thinking he is an actual rapist, it's an in joke.

It's an unsurprising pig ignorant proposal.

 

[little_legs]

The ‘rapist’: Let me just facetime a mate in uniform and he'll tell you I'm legit

 

[spanglechick]

Cousins, under this rule, would simply have worn his uniform to “arrest” her.

 

[Poot]

The only difference between an arrest and a kidnapping is the person doing it. So let's keep looking at the person doing it rather than trying to reassure the person being arrested/kidnapped.

 

[Pickman's model]

Cousins, under this rule, would simply have worn his uniform to “arrest” her.

Couzens.

Earlier in the year the met had to change all their warrant cards because of the number of fakes in circulation. That was the time to be putting in place ways to confirm the identity of plain clothes cops. If SE had known of the withdrawal she might have refused to go with wc voluntarily. The met kept it quiet tho, only a couple of short stories in the press about it some months back. All this from the met is too little too late

all met cops to get new warrant cards due to number of fakes in circulation

The current generation of warrant cards feature a photograph of the officer along with their name and rank, along with the force crest and a security hologram. The new versions are expected to include electronic chips that store data about the cardholder along with a number of other security...

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