Athos
Well-Known Member
That's the thing, they did recognise he was dodgy, to the extent of giving him the nickname 'The Rapist', but did nothing about it!
RIP Sarah Everard, who went missing from Brixton in March 2021
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planetgeli
There's no future in England's dreaming
There's a police video recording of him telling the stupid "I'm in debt to Romanian gangs" story in his home when they first confront him. He comes across as a bit pathetic, not bravado. He probably knew he was fucked there and then though. It's on a BBC news story, though I'm not suggesting you chase it up.
bimble
floofy
That thing he said about just wanting to protect his family, that hits a nerve. "he was a devoted family man", "i have daughters, so I am not a threat I am an ally" all that shit.
I read somewhere that his wife, who has said she can't understand how she missed all the signs that anything was wrong, silently watched the sentencing via zoom. impossible to imagine what that feels like.
I read somewhere that his wife, who has said she can't understand how she missed all the signs that anything was wrong, silently watched the sentencing via zoom. impossible to imagine what that feels like.
Poot
My wife thinks I work too hard
trashpony
Hag
I’m afraid I simply do not believe that his wife believed he was a lovely family man. His colleagues knew he wasn’t. Lovely family men don’t have an extremely violent porn habit, or regularly pay to have sex with women.
bimble
floofy
What you say makes sense. Most likely she chose not to know, to some extent. Unless he was meticulous in keeping his home self separate.
Looby
Well-Known Member
People do though don’t they. I know it’s hard to believe but people don’t see/ignore the signs all the time until they can’t.
Men like that target women, maybe including her.
I think most serious case reviews (child protection) highlight lack of communication between professionals, the assumption/fantasy that someone else is doing something about it, but also the tendency to denial or unconsciously turning a blind eye - who wants to believe that people you come into contact with can do such terrible things?
Pretty sure she said there were no signs. But you might be right. Perhaps she is still scared of him. Or maybe he really was nice to his family and it really did come as a terrible shock. I don’t suppose we’ll ever know.
Bahnhof Strasse
Met up with Hannah Courtoy a week next Tuesday
Without being flippant, he was a copper, coppers are often like that so would imagine that people attracted to them either welcome it or are blind to it.
Looby
Well-Known Member
It’s amazing and shocking to see what people are conditioned to accept as normal in a relationship. Behaviour that is abhorrent and abusive. Accepting of horrific treatment and then the blame.
Many of us have been taught such awful and damaging messages about love, relationships, sex etc that leave us wide open to gaslighting, coercion and abuse over and over again.
I saw it every single day in my previous job and with a friend irl for over 20 years.
Maybe that wasn’t the case here and he really was an expert liar and the mask didn’t slip. I do hope her and her kids have some really good support.
Many of us have been taught such awful and damaging messages about love, relationships, sex etc that leave us wide open to gaslighting, coercion and abuse over and over again.
I saw it every single day in my previous job and with a friend irl for over 20 years.
Maybe that wasn’t the case here and he really was an expert liar and the mask didn’t slip. I do hope her and her kids have some really good support.
That’s awful
trashpony
Hag
She was arrested and not bailed until June. Way after he’d confessed to Sarah’s murder.
I’m amazed she’s stayed in Deal. It’s a bloody small town. I think she must be a very brave woman.
It is. I didn’t know that’s where she lived. Poor woman. I hope people are kind to her now.
baldrick
hmmmmm
Good lord. I hope she has family and friends locally. I hope her kids aren't old enough to be at school yet because that's an ordeal they shouldn't have to face.
trashpony
Hag
They’re school age.
LeytonCatLady
Well-Known Member
Me too. I can well believe she had no idea about him, considering what a twisted liar he is.
No, I didn't think you thought that, it's just that I think some things are just too awful to even consider they might be real. There's no reason to think it's very different to the dynamics that have been observed to operate in child protection, which also includes fear of violence.
BusLanes
Pedestrian
What I don't quite get is if Cressida Dick isn't to resign now or last time, what on earth is she, her team, the mayor and home secretary actually going to do?
It's been six months and all we seem to have today is a lot of awful advice and "lessons learned".
Can't even be bothered to set up a patsy review
It's been six months and all we seem to have today is a lot of awful advice and "lessons learned".
Can't even be bothered to set up a patsy review
Cid
Proper break this time
I can imagine moving would be potentially traumatic... Inevitability of people in a new area finding out, kids dealing with new school in that context etc. Vulnerability any way you look at it... Degree of familiarity with place might help. She's also Ukrainian, so may not have many networks outside Deal (in the UK anyway).
Bahnhof Strasse
Met up with Hannah Courtoy a week next Tuesday
Nothing. And then a bit more nothing. Until the next time when Dick will swing in to action to defuse the situation and smother the issue, fully backed by the Home Secretary and where is Khan right now btw?
DaveCinzano
WATCH OUT, GEORGE, HE'S GOT A SCREWDRIVER!
Paul Manning is an ex-Met copper. By his account the 'one rogue officer' narrative routinely bandied about when things go tits-up is and always has been utter horseshit.
He regularly offers up examples of crimes, corruption and incompetence in the police forces he has worked in, both in the UK and Canada.
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He regularly offers up examples of crimes, corruption and incompetence in the police forces he has worked in, both in the UK and Canada.
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Raheem
Well-Known Member
This is the main reason she should go. Things need doing but it won't happen with her in charge.
Callie
Pivoting
Does WhatsApp remove the one lone copper thing or enforce it? Does it support the assumption that couzens acted alone outside of the team or was part of a clique/group who accepted the behaviours hence the nickname? Tbf I am not sure on the provenance of the nickname at this point (haven't had time to check)
DaveCinzano
WATCH OUT, GEORGE, HE'S GOT A SCREWDRIVER!
Im not sure about the WhatsApp group thing, but this in i Paper certainly indicates a clear meaning to the nickname, and yet seemingly nothing done about him:
Why Wayne Couzens was known as 'The Rapist', the origins of the nickname explained
He was reportedly nicknamed 'The Rapist' by his colleagues as he made women feel uncomfortable
inews.co.uk
equationgirl
Respect my existence or expect my resistance
Personally I think it removes it as there's three forces involved (3 from the Met, 1 from Norfolk and 1 from the Civil Nuclear Constabulary, plus a former Met officer). That's three for es right there, and I bet a ton of similar threads across similar groups from other forces were deleted over the past 24 hours.
