8ball
Decolonise colons!
It’s like a weird brain fart - she went on to talk about “suspecting the officer isn’t who they say they are”.
It’s really confused.
RIP Sarah Everard, who went missing from Brixton in March 2021
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It’s like a weird brain fart - she went on to talk about “suspecting the officer isn’t who they say they are”.
It’s really confused.
scalyboy
They’re taking the piss now
The 'flag down a bus' suggestion, the denials that Couzens was a police officer, the suggestions that Sarah Everard wasn't 'streetwise' enough (despite a witness at the trial stating that she was extremely streetwise and cautious) and that women should know more about police procedure... then if we recall the assaults on women at the vigil - FFS it's as if they are wilfully aiming for the worst PR possible. Don't they have media advisors?
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DaveCinzano
WATCH OUT, GEORGE, HE'S GOT A SCREWDRIVER!
If necessary, they will draft in local posties to create a perimeter, direct a dustbin lorry crew to preserve the scene, and task supermarket workers to conduct house to house inquiries.
She's talking about herself.
bimble
floofy
The Bus seems to have been edited out of the official advice now.
danny la rouge
More like *fanny* la rouge!
Verifying an officer's identity and intentions
It is unusual for a single plain clothes police officer to engage with anyone. If that does happen, you should then expect to see other officers arrive shortly afterwards.If you do find yourself in an interaction with a sole police officer and you are on your own, ask that officer for proof of identity and intentions. Questions like:
- Where are your colleagues?
- Where have you come from?
- Why are you here?
- Exactly why are you stopping or talking to me?
Given that Couzens was who he said he was, I think we need a number of assurances from the Police:
1. that they will from now on only kidnap, rape and murder women when then are off duty, and alone. Officers will not act in pairs to murder women.
2. That such searching questions will not be met with hostility, brutality or lethal force.
3. That only plain clothed officers should be seen as a threat. Uniformed officers will not attempt to kidnap, assault, rape or murder anyone.
4. That if you are not a woman, you have nothing to fear from police officers at any time.
There may be more that I haven’t thought of, but I do think they need to clarify these points.
(I’m not taking this lightly in any way. They are inviting this level of cynicism, and if journalists aren’t thinking these thoughts, and asking these questions, why the fuck not?)
not-bono-ever
meh
IRL asking those 4 Q to a copper in the early hours might rile rather than placate him.
bimble
floofy
The fact that his colleagues called him The Rapist for a laugh, I wish that was the main story.
That’s what journalists needed to keep coming back to if there was any chance of actual change imo.
All this noise & nonsense about identifying fake police officers is a sick attempt to avoid talking about the culture within which he, a policeman, was able to carry on.
That’s what journalists needed to keep coming back to if there was any chance of actual change imo.
All this noise & nonsense about identifying fake police officers is a sick attempt to avoid talking about the culture within which he, a policeman, was able to carry on.
danny la rouge
More like *fanny* la rouge!
Precisely.
equationgirl
Respect my existence or expect my resistance
A bus conductor then?
8ball
Decolonise colons!
And there's nothing coppers like less than people who know their rights.
danny la rouge
More like *fanny* la rouge!
My mum always used to tell me to look for a mummy if I was alone and worried about someone’s behaviour. So maybe the bus driver will summon mummies.
Jesus. The anger and despair I feel at the whole idea is churning me up inside. I can physically feel it.
bimble
floofy
It’s really fucking dangerous advice imo. Issued only in a desperate attempt to distance themselves.
He was not impersonating a police officer ffs he was one.
equationgirl
Respect my existence or expect my resistance
Yes, I can see those questions not being received well at all. At. All.
'exactly why have you stopped me, officer?'
'because I want to kidnap you'
'wtf???'
'nah, only joking, you are suspected of committing a crime-- got a smart arse uppity one here lads, better not lose her in the system for a couple of days'
Winot
I wholeheartedley agree with your viewpoint
It shows that the ‘deny and protect your own’ culture is so embedded in the organisation that they are incapable of seeing themselves as the problem.
bluescreen
tofu eating wokerati
IKR. It is very hard to resist the temptation to post images of Reg Varney &co, but this is not the thread for it. How the Met cannot see the absurdity and downright danger of what they're suggesting, though, is depressing to say the least. The man was a serving Met officer, FFS.
equationgirl
Respect my existence or expect my resistance
Dp
equationgirl
Respect my existence or expect my resistance
How does any of the supposed 'advice' given by the Met today actually help?
They keep saying'ask the officer to identify themselves'. HE WAS A SERVING POLICE OFFICER WITH A LEGIT WARRANT CARD THAT HE USED ILLICITLY. What was she supposed to do??
They keep saying'ask the officer to identify themselves'. HE WAS A SERVING POLICE OFFICER WITH A LEGIT WARRANT CARD THAT HE USED ILLICITLY. What was she supposed to do??
planetgeli
There's no future in England's dreaming
Ugly stuff. As any of us who've had any oppositional contact with the police know. The denial of reality going on here is enormous, deliberate. Embedding the idea of a reasonable police force in the context of a conviction of an officer for kidnap rape and murder.
Sick stuff. But you've got to keep propagating that myth.
LeytonCatLady
Well-Known Member
Sounds like she was supposed to somehow know he wasn't using his police powers for legit purposes. Because she was a mind reader apparently, and just couldn't be bothered to use that ability. Cressida can go suck shit.
bimble
floofy
That’s exactly why they’re doing it. To somehow trick us into thinking maybe he was just some guy who bought a uniform and handcuffs from a sex shop or something. It is beyond belief.
8ball
Decolonise colons!
I can understand getting caught on the hop and saying something dumb and then climbing down pretty much immediately - I thought at first this was the chief blurting something out under pressure - not actual published guidance.
I just can't even.
trashpony
Hag
Well obviously you ask them if you can call their control centre and they say ‘yes of course’ and give you the number and stand there waiting whike yo find out if they’re a legitimate, state paid rapist.
I keep thinking about Sarah’s family. They must be raging when they hear all this shite advice.
oh and I came across this today. One bad apple indeed:
https://www.aol.co.uk/news/cop-fly-kicks-15-old-123400054.html
I keep thinking about Sarah’s family. They must be raging when they hear all this shite advice.
oh and I came across this today. One bad apple indeed:
https://www.aol.co.uk/news/cop-fly-kicks-15-old-123400054.html
DietCokeGirl
Fishing in the rivers of life
Everyone in south london has at one time tried to 'flag down a bus' they have just missed or desperately need, standing in the drivers line of sight desperately waving and making pleading gestures, only for the bus driver (who is late, low paid and had enough for peoples bullshit for one day) to drive off without acknowledging their existence. So great advice there, can really see that being effective.
bimble
floofy
Bus drivers across the city will have heard that mad statement setting out their new role as rescuers of women & identifiers of fake police. Do wonder what they thought of it.
Maybe there was a quick phonecall to the Met saying don’t be so completely ridiculous, helping remove that particular bit from the published advice.
Maybe there was a quick phonecall to the Met saying don’t be so completely ridiculous, helping remove that particular bit from the published advice.
equationgirl
Respect my existence or expect my resistance
Some of them take the 'only let passengers on at a bus stop' very very literally. I've seen a bus driver who is partially pulled away but stationary because of traffic stopped at lights still refuse to let passengers on.
Plus how many times have we heard of bus drivers refusing to let a lone person on, sometimes even a younger teenager, for not having the fare only for them to be hurt or killed?
equationgirl
Respect my existence or expect my resistance
I haven't felt anger like this for a while.
8ball
Decolonise colons!
bimble
floofy
Me too. It’s exhausting. Better than feeling despair though.
