RIP Sarah Everard, who went missing from Brixton in March 2021

[existentialist]

Makes it easier to understand why he wasn't removed from his job though. Seems like his behaviour simply wasn't considered a problem.

I'm still reeling from this. Here we have a man with a documented history of sexual offending, whose behaviour around women is such that his colleagues nickname him "Rapist"...AND NOBODY STOPPED AND WENT "WTF?" OR DID ANYTHING ABOUT IT??

While I don't want to diminish the shitness of Couzens, I wouldn't put the enabling behaviours of his colleagues - or the police service culture that fosters them - very far behind what he did. They are almost as culpable - or should be.

 

[Argonia]

I'm still reeling from this. Here we have a man with a documented history of sexual offending, whose behaviour around women is such that his colleagues nickname him "Rapist"...AND NOBODY STOPPED AND WENT "WTF?" OR DID ANYTHING ABOUT IT??

While I don't want to diminish the shitness of Couzens, I wouldn't put the enabling behaviours of his colleagues - or the police service culture that fosters them - very far behind what he did. They are almost as culpable - or should be.

Well said

 

[SpookyFrank]

I'm still reeling from this. Here we have a man with a documented history of sexual offending, whose behaviour around women is such that his colleagues nickname him "Rapist"...AND NOBODY STOPPED AND WENT "WTF?" OR DID ANYTHING ABOUT IT??

While I don't want to diminish the shitness of Couzens, I wouldn't put the enabling behaviours of his colleagues - or the police service culture that fosters them - very far behind what he did. They are almost as culpable - or should be.

Absolutely culpable. They have a duty of care to the public, and manifestly failed in that.

 

[Athos]

Can anyone explain why sharing an inappropriate graphic is (obviously quite rightly) treated as gross midconduct but those officers allegedly involved in failing to deal with Couzens sexual offences are only investigated at 'misconduct' level of without any misconduct notice issued at all? Am I missing something? Could it mean they are likley to face serious sanction outside the misconduct procedure?

I think it means that the prima facie case against them is that any failings were towards the less serious end of misconduct*. If anything, that suggests it's unlikely that they'd face e.g. any subsequent criminal proceedings.

*without knowing what they're accused of, it's impossible to assess whether or not that's right, given that it could be anything from an accidental and non-material amin error in the investigation process to a deliberate attempt at a cover up.

 

[Pickman's model]

Can anyone explain why sharing an inappropriate graphic is (obviously quite rightly) treated as gross midconduct but those officers allegedly involved in failing to deal with Couzens sexual offences are only investigated at 'misconduct' level of without any misconduct notice issued at all? Am I missing something? Could it mean they are likley to face serious sanction outside the misconduct procedure?

Because they're more senior and so are protected by the system

 

[Loose meat]

So if you go via this micky mouse Civil Nuclear Constabulary route, who train you on guns, you don't have to go to Hendon or one of those new recruit training courses?

Did he basically go from a job with guns to a police job with guns?

 

[Pickman's model]

So if you go via this micky mouse Civil Nuclear Constabulary route, who train you on guns, you don't have to go to Hendon or one of those new recruit training courses?

Did he basically go from a job with guns to a police job with guns?

You should change your name to loose bowels. If you'd read anything on this case you'd have seen he was a special cunt in Kent for years.

 

[SpookyFrank]

Because they're more senior and so are protected by the system

Yup. Can't let the brass take the fall for anything or the 'one dodgy cunt in an otherwise sound organisation' narrative rapidly starts to look more like 'cunts all the way down'.

 

[cuppa tee]

Apologies for diversion, but wondering if the time may be right for changing
the title of this thread as things have moved on somewhat and thread has
broadened out into related topics in the time since Sarah Everard ( riep ) first went missing.
editor ?

 

[Loose meat]

You should change your name to loose bowels. If you'd read anything on this case you'd have seen he was a special cunt in Kent for years.

I've never come across anyone who spends 12-14 hours a day, 7 days a week fishing for 'likes' on a niche internet message board.

It would be a disservice if people didn't mention, from time to time, you are wasting your life with this addiction.

I wish you well.

 

[Pickman's model]

I've never come across anyone who spends 12-14 hours a day, 7 days a week fishing for 'likes' on a niche internet message board.

It would be a disservice if people didn't mention, from time to time, you are wasting your life with this addiction.

I wish you well.

If you've never come across anyone like that then wtf do you bring it up as tho it's some sort of killer point that trumps your own ignorance being pointed out again?

 

[baldrick]

I've never come across anyone who spends 12-14 hours a day, 7 days a week fishing for 'likes' on a niche internet message board.

It would be a disservice if people didn't mention, from time to time, you are wasting your life with this addiction.

I wish you well.

Can we not turn this into a stupid nitpicky personal beef thread, thanks.

 

[Loose meat]

You should change your name to loose bowels.

 

[existentialist]

I've never come across anyone who spends 12-14 hours a day, 7 days a week fishing for 'likes' on a niche internet message board.

It would be a disservice if people didn't mention, from time to time, you are wasting your life with this addiction.

I wish you well.

No you don't, don't lie. You've made your views on the denizens of this board very clear.

And yet, somehow, you keep on coming back.

At least the people you choose to sneer at like being here. You, on the other hand, appear to hate it...but you're still here. Who's really the sneer-worthy one?

 

[Nanker Phelge]

Talking of toxic banter

 

[BusLanes]

Time for a proper review of the Met. Probably should do them regularly actually

 

[SpookyFrank]

Time for a proper review of the Met. Probably should do them regularly actually

I'll do it right now. Corrupt, racist, unfit for purpose; recommend liquidation with immediate effect.

 

[tim]

I'll do it right now. Corrupt, racist, unfit for purpose; recommend liquidation with immediate effect.

Time to defund the Dick

 

[trashpony]

Thanks mods

 

[Gramsci]

Time for a proper review of the Met. Probably should do them regularly actually

I doubt that will happen.

Cressida Dick has just got rewarded for her great service over the years as a Coppers Copper.

Cressida Dick becomes Dame Commander for public service

www.standard.co.uk

From leaving at end of her present reign as head of Met its now rumoured she might seek another term.

Given her track record I can't think of anyone less appropriate.

I'm appalled she has got an honour .

Stockwell , Clapham etc she is Teflon Dick.

 

[not-bono-ever]

Details of the kidnap being made public in court now. This is a sick sadistic copper cunt. Awful awful pig wanker

 

[baldrick]

Yes agreed. Following a couple of news editors on Twitter. I felt chilled reading that witnesses had seen her being arrested.

 

[existentialist]

Yes agreed. Following a couple of news editors on Twitter. I felt chilled reading that witnesses had seen her being arrested.

It should be a call to arms to the rest of us that, if we see a woman being manhandled, whoever's doing it, then it needs to be challenged. Presumably (ha!), in the light of this, a decent police officer would understand the need to remain until their colleagues arrived - I imagine the likelihood of uniformed police turning up to something like this and letting it go ahead unchallenged is (hopefully) pretty small, although it should be non-existent.

ETA: perhaps not just "a woman", but anyone.

 

[Thora]

Yes agreed. Following a couple of news editors on Twitter. I felt chilled reading that witnesses had seen her being arrested.

It has definitely made me think I will be sure to stop, ask questions and take photos if I ever see someone being stopped or arrested now. Particularly if it is a woman or child/teen or anyone vulnerable looking.

 

[Pickman's model]

I doubt that will happen.

Cressida Dick has just got rewarded for her great service over the years as a Coppers Copper.

Cressida Dick becomes Dame Commander for public service

www.standard.co.uk

From leaving at end of her present reign as head of Met its now rumoured she might seek another term.

Given her track record I can't think of anyone less appropriate.

I'm appalled she has got an honour .

Stockwell , Clapham etc she is Teflon Dick.

If she presides over another death she will be installed in the lords, perhaps as baroness dick of stockwell

 

[ruffneck23]

That was a horrible read (read the Guardian online , not going to post it up here.)

Fucking cunt.

 

[keybored]

I felt chilled reading that witnesses had seen her being arrested.

They must be feeling absolutely gutted. Not the sort of thing I think I could ever get over. That fucker has damaged a lot of lives (beyond Sarah's family and friends).

 

[Plumdaff]

I wonder how much of the details senior police and politicians knew when they made the decision to have officers attack women at the vigil for 'covid breaches'.

It makes me seethe.

 

[Magnus McGinty]

Pretty grim that he actually used his police issue arrest tools and police issue belt as his rape/murder kit.

 

[existentialist]

Pretty grim that he actually used his police issue arrest tools and police issue belt as his rape/murder kit.

I suspect that this has been mentioned because it is going to be a significant factor in his sentencing. "They" can hardly do otherwise, in the circumstances.