RIP Sarah Everard, who went missing from Brixton in March 2021
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purenarcotic
Conveniently Pocket Sized
This is very close to home for me because Sarah lived a couple of streets away and I have seen her picture on every tree and lamppost for the past week. But I keep reminding myself that one of the reasons it’s such big news is because it’s very rare to be abducted and murdered.
But femicide in general isn’t rare. From 2019 homicide stats:
weepiper
I fix the machines that fight climate change
Just been talking to Mr W about all of this and after we railed about the awfulness of it all and so on I said to him 'you know I don't think you're all bastards. I like men. It's just that on the one hand, there's all the men that I know and like and who are good guys, and on the other, there's men who might kill me.'
Ms T
Honey-coloured ramparts
But purenarcotic what those statistics show is you’re twice as likely to be murdered if you’re a man.
Ms T
Honey-coloured ramparts
Yes. This is one of hendo’s big bugbears too.
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
And a lot of them are graphic beyond any possible relevance to the plot.
Yeah, doon mackichan did a great docu on radio 4 about this a few years ago that totally opened my eyes - annoyingly it's not on the website anymore though. I've tried to be more conscious of shows relying so much on male on female violence since then - its a whole lot of them.
Treacle Toes
Time
I literally can't and won't watch any violence on TV/film now. I select what I watch really carefully. I have enough trauma already.
Actually it's back up - here: Body Count Rising - BBC Sounds
purenarcotic
Conveniently Pocket Sized
Yes, they do. Which is awful. But it also shows that femicide is rising significantly. And yet this is in a backdrop of new laws around coercive control, post the #metoo movement and much more vocal discussions about abuse and violence against women. That bothers me. Doesn’t it bother you?
oryx
Sitting on the bok of the day
Thanks - must listen to that.
It's concerning that grisly murders, often gratuitously graphic as Pickman's model has pointed out, are considered prime time entertainment. Although I'm as guilty of watching them as the next person.
Surely corruption, money laundering, drug dealing, fraud etc is equally entertaining although I'm under no illusions that these don't have their fair share of violence and murder.
We are so inured to violence, especially against women, that there are no trigger warnings, AFAICS. Yet you get a trigger warning for someone saying 'shit' or the F word.
Manter
Lunch Mob
But terrifyingly common to be raped, harassed, assaulted, abused.This is very close to home for me because Sarah lived a couple of streets away and I have seen her picture on every tree and lamppost for the past week. But I keep reminding myself that one of the reasons it’s such big news is because it’s very rare to be abducted and murdered.
Twitter today has been horrifying, mostly because of the outpouring of experiences, women basically listing things and there are loads they forget and have to go back and add, because it’s so fucking much we can’t even keep track of it all. I’ve got the ones I’ve turned into funny stories, the life lessons, and the one I don’t talk about because even now 15 years later I feel sick thinking about it....
I’m oscillating between rage and sadness and exhaustion right now.
editor
hiraethified
Without getting into the whole 'do video games cause violence' thing, why the fuck would the programmers go out of their way to include this kind of 'feature' in this hugely popular game?
Prostitute performs sex acts on GTA V player and is then knocked unconscious
WARNING: Contains images some might find disturbing. In this clip of actual gameplay, a user pays a prostitute for sex - which happens in graphic footage - and then punches the woman to the ground
www.mirror.co.uk
Grand Theft Auto V makes it cool to pick up – even kill – prostitutes | Cassie Rodenberg
Cassie Rodenberg: My students play GTA V instead of studying. It teaches them to kill prostitutes and demean women in the game – and beyond
Treacle Toes
Time
That is messing me up too. However given police officers are able to torture, beat, coerce, bear children and deceive women into relationships as part of their jobs anyway I'm not sure it's the right hook to hang her disgusting filth hat on anyway.
Treacle Toes
Time
Culture. At it's misogynistic worst.Without getting into the whole 'do video games cause violence' thing, why the fuck would the programmers go out of their way to include this kind of 'feature' in this hugely popular game?
Prostitute performs sex acts on GTA V player and is then knocked unconscious
WARNING: Contains images some might find disturbing. In this clip of actual gameplay, a user pays a prostitute for sex - which happens in graphic footage - and then punches the woman to the ground
Grand Theft Auto V makes it cool to pick up – even kill – prostitutes | Cassie Rodenberg
Cassie Rodenberg: My students play GTA V instead of studying. It teaches them to kill prostitutes and demean women in the game – and beyondwww.theguardian.com
I don't play those games either.
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David Clapson
Well-Known Member
I hate it. Violence against women has become a staple of entertainment. It has to increase the number of attacks. It just has to. I don't know how the writers and producers can live with themselves.
Ms T
Honey-coloured ramparts
Of course it bothers me. But the vast majority of those women will have been killed by their partners or ex-partners. That’s a whole other thread. Men are statistically much more likely to be the victims of random violence from strangers.
SheilaNaGig
Break requested
Post was redundant. Removed
Ms T
Honey-coloured ramparts
When you think about it, it’s weird that murder is entertainment. Not just on TV. Books too. It fascinates people.
Ms T
Honey-coloured ramparts
I think a really small proportion of murders are by women, maybe 1%?
Orang Utan
Psychick Worrier Ov Geyoor
I find true crime docs to be the most distasteful. People will speculate ghoulishly on a very real tragedy that they have no insight into apart from a few ‘facts’. It’s insidious and it happens everywhere including this board
SheilaNaGig
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David Clapson
Well-Known Member
I wonder how many other women this copper has killed.
Artaxerxes
Look out, he's got a gnu!
More likely to be the victims of serious random violence involving punching and stabbing but women get those low level oh god am I safe constant grinding attrition attacks directed at them so I understand why women feel unsafe and on edge.
Much of it’s psychological and social which is still violence just doesn’t show up in the stats
SheilaNaGig
Break requested
Also, the people who kill us are people we know well, and who know us. They’re people who have lived in our homes, eaten food with us, hugged our children, met our friends and parents. The people who are most likely to kill us are those who we’ve loved, and who have claimed to love us.
That’s a very disturbing thing to think about. To have to live with.
beesonthewhatnow
going deaf for a living
The nature of violent crime in England and Wales - Office for National Statistics
A summary of violent crime from the Crime Survey for England and Wales and police recorded crime.
www.ons.gov.uk
