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RIP Sarah Everard, who went missing from Brixton in March 2021

It's concerning that grisly murders, often gratuitously graphic as Pickman's model has pointed out, are considered prime time entertainment. Although I'm as guilty of watching them as the next person.

This is the main reason I barely watch TV anymore. A typical evening of TV has at least one murder mystery programme at 9. I just don't want to see it. The world is horrible enough already without that counting as "entertainment".
 
Brings it home it happening so close to women from on here. Multiplied by all the occurrences that are local to so many women throughout the UK :(
 
But terrifyingly common to be raped, harassed, assaulted, abused.
Twitter today has been horrifying, mostly because of the outpouring of experiences, women basically listing things and there are loads they forget and have to go back and add, because it’s so fucking much we can’t even keep track of it all. I’ve got the ones I’ve turned into funny stories, the life lessons, and the one I don’t talk about because even now 15 years later I feel sick thinking about it....

I’m oscillating between rage and sadness and exhaustion right now.
I haven’t looked at Twitter but that feels very familiar from conversations with other women on here and irl. Sometimes when I re-tell a story I realize how shocking it is but it’s become an anecdote/life lesson for me or my friends. Probably because it’s happened more than once, I wasn’t surprised it happened or there’s far worse shit that I don’t talk about.
Apart from a couple of people I know from here, no-one has mentioned it on Facebook. I’ve tried to a few times but have deleted my posts. Because the post will be angry and a bit ranty and I don’t want to know at the moment who on my timeline might out themselves as a cunt.
 
That is messing me up too. However given police officers are able to torture, beat, coerce, bear children and deceive women into relationships as part of their jobs anyway I'm not sure it's the right hook to hang her disgusting filth hat on anyway.
Oh she should have been done for after Stockwell. It just jumped out at me as a super foul little mental justification
 
Useless without serious work to address social housing

They’ve also not included any protection for migrant women / those subject to immigration control despite huge calls for it. They’ve also not included a definition of what a refuge is, which means that under the current rules, anyone can set a ‘refuge’ up so they can become exempt providers for housing benefit purposes. This means you’ve got lots of HMOs claiming to be supported accommodation. But these aren’t refuges, they aren’t confidential locations, they don’t have proper security, the ‘staff’ aren’t offering any support and certainly not specialist support around DV and some of them have men living there too. In Birmingham it seems to be a particular issue, with so called supported accommodation popping up all over the shop and it’s dangerous. A woman was murdered after meeting her partner (a violent offender recently released from prison) in one of these supported accommodation houses. She had a number of needs and was seen as a vulnerable adult. They should never have been in the same building. But who cares as long as you make profit off the back of homelessness eh.
 
They’ve also not included any protection for migrant women / those subject to immigration control despite huge calls for it. They’ve also not included a definition of what a refuge is, which means that under the current rules, anyone can set a ‘refuge’ up so they can become exempt providers for housing benefit purposes. This means you’ve got lots of HMOs claiming to be supported accommodation. But these aren’t refuges, they aren’t confidential locations, they don’t have proper security, the ‘staff’ aren’t offering any support and certainly not specialist support around DV and some of them have men living there too. In Birmingham it seems to be a particular issue, with so called supported accommodation popping up all over the shop and it’s dangerous. A woman was murdered after meeting her partner (a violent offender recently released from prison) in one of these supported accommodation houses. She had a number of needs and was seen as a vulnerable adult. They should never have been in the same building. But who cares as long as you make profit off the back of homelessness eh.

Jesus that sounds awful.

Hotels are going to be getting fat checks for it as well. Housing women and probably kids in tiny rooms for weeks because it's an emergency
 
Jesus that sounds awful.

Hotels are going to be getting fat checks for it as well. Housing women and probably kids in tiny rooms for weeks because it's an emergency

Yes. And the stuff hotels provide is often extremely poor quality; dirty, infested with bugs, no proper facilities. And yet the council repeatedly places people there. It’s so morally corrupt. And it isn’t weeks anymore, it’s months, sometimes years. There’s no social housing like you say, so nowhere for people to move onto.
 
it was a woman, she said 'as a woman i think i have the license to say this'. Didn't help. It sounded like she had misunderstood why people were on social media telling about their fear and their habitual precautions, as if she thought women were freaking out all of a sudden. No.
 
some criminology academic on the radio earlier today saying how we must keep this in perspective and 'not get hysterical' and i actually cried, which hardly ever happens.
Hearing Nick Robinson (I think) explaining that although women were now talking about ways to protect themselves, this sort of thing is actually very rare made me unbelievably cross this morning.
 
In a gentle not confrontational way- Why do you think it’s affecting you so much?
Been wondering that myself. I think its largely proximity, i have walked that same road alone many times (moved away year before last after 8 years). It wasnt 2am she didn't cut across she park she wore sensible shoes, all those stupid details add up to give a very sharp taste of could've been me, i think, for those reasons.
 
Been wondering that myself. I think its largely proximity, i have walked that same road alone many times (moved away year before last after 8 years).
Yes. Proximity makes a big difference to how how shocking news stories are in general. I mean I know there’ll be loads of other reasons too.
 
some criminology academic on the radio earlier today saying how we must keep this in perspective and 'not get hysterical' and i actually cried, which hardly ever happens.

My wife heard that, and came downstairs absolutely fuming.
 
This is the main reason I barely watch TV anymore. A typical evening of TV has at least one murder mystery programme at 9. I just don't want to see it. The world is horrible enough already without that counting as "entertainment".

I stopped watching "murder mysteries" and that sort of stuff a long time ago, even documentaries I tend to avoid. At a certain point in my life it stopped making sense watching the genre for entertainment because the reality of it is just devastating.
 
She was trying to be reassuring by quoting data on violence against women in public spaces. I guess that doesn’t reassure everyone.
She seemed to be under the impression that women were freaking out because all of a sudden they are frightened, like we weren't frightened last week, this was tone deaf and infuriating. She also said that things like not walking alone, avoiding alleyways etc, are simply sensible precautions for any city dweller, nothing to lament about just do it, i think maybe she was old, that might be half an excuse for her missing the point.
 
Going from being a 48 year old copper (presumably with no previous), to a random street kidnapper/murderer would be quite the career change if he is found guilty.
 
Going from being a 48 year old copper (presumably with no previous), to a random street kidnapper/murderer would be quite the career change if he is found guilty.
Everyone who worked with him day after day for years in the police they noticed nothing at all untoward about his attitude to women presumably, no concerns raised at all, i want to know about that. You don't suddenly turn into this, i don't think.
 
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