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RIP Sarah Everard, who went missing from Brixton in March 2021

baldrick said:
You could have walked with her. Following her without her knowing is really weird and odd. And she was fine anyway wasn't she, you didn't have to rescue her from a random assailant.

There's a story I read on Twitter today in the aftermath of the developments in this case of a woman when she was 17 walking back from a friend's house, realising someone was behind her. A bit freaked out, she crossed the road. They followed. She walked faster, they sped up. She started running and realised the person was gaining on her. She stopped and turned around preparing to fight for her life....and it was her friend's dad, claiming he wanted to make sure she got home safe.

Still feel like it was the right thing to do?
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You don't think that option was offered? Walk with her/Uber/shared Uber/Neighbours son to be woken up and drive her to air b'n'b? All rejected.

I'm sorry about that incident on twitter,

'still feel like tit was the right thing to do?' - as I have said, I believe i did the right thing.

You still haven't answered the question - of what you would have done?
 
Rutita1 said:
Good grief. I gave you a get out...a chance to see the point being made to you and you swerved it. It was a hypothetical, to illustrate what could be done better and why. But nah, you chose to ignore that with nonsense. You don't care about how women feel. Gotcha.
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'Gotcha' - please.
Engage like an adult.
 
Something that made me shudder a bit this week is that I've said to people staying here, and/or friends and family that when out at night to stick to the a205, it's well lit, it's busy, there are buses, plenty of traffic, keep to the main roads, and there are road signs to follow so you won't get lost.

Vanishing from that location has been the big shock for me...
 
Nanker Phelge said:
Something that made me shudder a bit this week is that I've said to people staying here, and/or friends and family that when out at night to stick to the a205, it's well lit, it's busy, there are buses, plenty of traffic, keep to the main roads, and there are road signs to follow so you won't get lost.

Vanishing from that location has been the big shock for me...
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Not busy with pedestrians though. And the traffic is fairly fast moving.

ETA
I mean if you’re in a car moving at 30 mph, how much of an abduction would you actually really see? And even if you clocked it, realised what was going on and decided to intervene, by the time you’ve turned the car around to go back would there be any trace? More chance for walkers in side streets to intevene. That’s always been my policy when walking about: it’s the quality of the busyness, not the quantity, that I’m gauging for my safety.





Not yet confirmed.

Although it’s her, isn’t it.

www.bbc.co.uk

Sarah Everard: Human remains found in Kent woodland

The 33-year-old disappeared while walking home in Clapham, London, last week.
www.bbc.co.uk
 
Nanker Phelge said:
Something that made me shudder a bit this week is that I've said to people staying here, and/or friends and family that when out at night to stick to the a205, it's well lit, it's busy, there are buses, plenty of traffic, keep to the main roads, and there are road signs to follow so you won't get lost.

Vanishing from that location has been the big shock for me...
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It’s part of the shock for all women locally I think. She did what we are told to do- take the longer route home that’s better lit. Wear sports clothes, flat shoes. Make sure someone knows your eta. Etc etc etc.

But basically women trying to keep themselves safe in a hostile world has always been a mug’s game. We need to address the world not trap women in ever narrowing choices (with the flip side of well what was she doing there/then/in that/with him- she should have kept herself safe)
 
SheilaNaGig said:
Not busy with pedestrians though. And the traffic is fairly fast flowing





Not yet confirmed.

Although it’s her, isn’t it.

www.bbc.co.uk

Sarah Everard: Human remains found in Kent woodland

The 33-year-old disappeared while walking home in Clapham, London, last week.
www.bbc.co.uk
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This is what I mean by a mug’s game- it’s busy but maybe it’s the wrong sort of busy. Whatever we do to try and stay safe we can’t when so many people see us as prey or objects. We have to stop expecting women to run this weird safety-maths in their heads the whole time and start seriously addressing male violence
 
I think Paulee's actions explain a lot about the misunderstanding in society about 'protecting women'. We don't want men to protect us from other men. We don't want men to beat up other men if they do us wrong because that does nothing to help us. ( Sidenote: when I see a guy crow about how he'll make any guy who even thinks about assaulting his girl/daughter/sister etc sorry, I'd pretty much bet this is also a guy whose first reaction to his girl/daughter sister telling him she's been assaulted would be 'What were you wearing/were you drunk?'). I'm sure many men will now go online raging nobly about how they'd like to beat the crap out of Sarah's killer, but that won't bring her back or prevent other women from meeting her fate.

What we need is guys to not harrass and assault women, not to do and say things that enable harrassment and assault, and to actively stop their mates, brothers and fathers from doing these things as well. That is how you do something positive in tribute to victims of male violence like Sarah.
 
Yes! And also why do we always end up talking about what men feel and what they should do and not all men and all that crap? Handmaidens of the patriarchy saying we mustn’t be angry and bitter because we’ll alienate the caring and concerned men. Twitter has not all men trending higher than Sarah’s name. One of my WhatsApps has gone straight to discussing the rights and feelings of the man arrested for her kidnap and murder.

Men men men. Always it’s all about men. Kidnap, rape, murder, it always all ends up all about them.
 
DJWrongspeed said:
Body found in Ashford Wood, super grim story. It's a really rare kind of murder you have to remind yourself. I wonder how the link was made to the arrested policeman?
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I wonder if someone local to the Ashford area where he lives saw her with him? He was taken in on a suspected kidnap charge originally.

Very, very sad :(
 
Plumdaff said:
There's a Reclaim the Streets vigil planned at Clapham Common for those who are local
Facebook link here
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Thank you for linking this.

I will go, and I will walk the route down the A205, and back again afterwards.

In some of her footsteps , and to say 'this is what women have the right to do' to all the people who in the aftermath of Sarah's disappearance went on and on, on Twitter, Facebook, forums other than this, to say 'why was she out so late' 'why did she walk home alone?' 'why didn't she take an Uber' (hah! the cab company that my organisation ruled not compliant with our safeguarding policies for sending staff and young participants home late at night in).

Whoever said 'it's not the location, it's men' - I agree. I have always worked in theatre, and always needed to come home from work late at night. The good news is that this level of attack is very rare. And I was never bothered (except by reeling drunks) or assaulted late at night walking home through Brixton. But I was assaulted on a crowded tube, and I was assaulted on a crowded pavement outside the tube in broad daylight. But...the constant backbeat of 'be alert' at all times. I would walk along Josephine Ave in the road rather than close to the hedges and driveways. Keys in hand. Footwear in which I could kick and run.

There is nothing you can do if you are in the wrong place at the wrong time, and I am very very sad for Sarah and her family and friends that this time, it was her.

Heartbreaking.
 
I don’t think of myself as scared when I walk alone- because I’m low level cautious and scared and periodically reckless (and usually lucky) all the time. It’s just a background noise to my life. Imagine what I and all women could do if a little safety-maths ticker wasn’t running in the background of my mind 24/7 draining my power.
 
bimble said:
i very much want to know if any women hereabouts think that Mr paulee did a gallant good thing and they'd have been happy / grateful when told that he'd followed them for 90 minutes.
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It would depend on the friendship and on how wasted I was. If was off my face, staggering all over the place and refusing assistance even though I might be in a inebriated state that left me vulnerable AND it was a friend I knew and trusted? I'd actually be grateful, maybe not on the night but certainly the morning after.

The intention would have been one of care, not of harm, how could I be angry with a friend for caring for my safety? But if it wasn't someone I knew well I'd be weirded out.
 
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This is very close to home for me because Sarah lived a couple of streets away and I have seen her picture on every tree and lamppost for the past week. But I keep reminding myself that one of the reasons it’s such big news is because it’s very rare to be abducted and murdered. 😡😭
 
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