Rapist may have caught HIV

[UnderOpenSky]

Not that I'd wish HIV on anyone, but as candidates go, I'm betting not many will shed a tear for this one.

A rapist who attacked a woman whilst she slept in her home is waiting to find out if he has contracted HIV from her.

Richard Thomas collapsed when he was told his victim was HIV positive, and is now awaiting test results to establish if he has contracted the virus, according to the BBC.

Thomas is currently serving a 64 month sentence after pleading guilty to raping the woman, who he was known to.

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[TopCat]

I was rather pleased by this.

 

[xes]

IIRC it's harder for transmision to go this way, but not anywhere near impossible. Here's hoping, eh?

*raises glass*

 

[equationgirl]

I saw that yesterday and thought 'Karma's a bitch, eh?'. Whilst like others I wouldn't wish HIV on anyone, well, he shouldn't have raped her in the first place, should he.

 

[Manter]

I saw that yesterday and thought 'Karma's a bitch, eh?'. Whilst like others I wouldn't wish HIV on anyone, well, he shouldn't have raped her in the first place, should he.

even his barrister said that. You know you're in trouble when your own barrister can't fake supportive

 

[Bitter&Twisted]

Actually, a rapist who breaks into a woman's home and violates her in her own bed while she's out for the count on sleeping tabs is precisely the kind of person I would wish HIV on. Possibly the only kind but I'm keeping an open mind about it for the moment.....

 

[equationgirl]

His defence seems to have been along the lines of 'I took loads of coke and ecstasy and I don't remember doing it'.

Gotta love karma

ETA: He still only got 64 months though

 

[purves grundy]

I was going to say "It's unlikely that he will have caught it, but good for him to have some mental agony", and then I realised that was like condoning cruel and unusual punishment.

Practical Ethics 101: Should this man be given the same level of support and counselling as that which the woman was entitled to receive?

 

[Manter]

I was going to say "It's unlikely that he will have caught it, but good for him to have some mental agony", and then I realised that was like condoning cruel and unusual punishment.

Practical Ethics 101: Should this man be given the same level of support and counselling as that which the woman was entitled to receive?

practical ethics: yes.

But me not actually being that nice a person, I hope not, and I smiled when I read he had 'collapsed' when he heard

 

[Bahnhof Strasse]

Saw this yesterday and this bit made my blood run cold:

She froze and no words were exchanged. He pulled up his shorts and left

As eqgirl says, Karma's a bitch.

 

[RedDragon]

The only negative I can think of is that it's now another weapon in his arsenal of terror.

 

[Bitter&Twisted]

I was going to say "It's unlikely that he will have caught it, but good for him to have some mental agony", and then I realised that was like condoning cruel and unusual punishment.

Practical Ethics 101: Should this man be given the same level of support and counselling as that which the woman was entitled to receive?

In my world he damned-well wouldn't. Eff him

 

[Manter]

The only negative I can think of is that it's now another weapon in his arsenal of terror.

if he has caught it. Which is very unlikely.... pretty difficult for a man to catch it from a woman I believe.

 

[purenarcotic]

Difficult but not impossible. And something that needs to be spoken about more, especially in the context of lesbian sexual health.

 

[DotCommunist]

well if he has caught the big bad he will have to live with it for the rest of his life. Much as she will have to live with the mental anguish of a sexual assault for the rest of her life. So, unlucky. Next time try and find a sexual partner who is willing.

 

[Bahnhof Strasse]

Difficult but not impossible. And something that needs to be spoken about more, especially in the context of lesbian sexual health.

Eh?

 

[purenarcotic]

Eh?

The idea that if you shag a woman you can't get HIV is rubbish. It's a small risk but it's not a non existent risk. But it's a popular myth. And it puts men and lesbians / bisexual women at risk.

 

[Manter]

Difficult but not impossible. And something that needs to be spoken about more, especially in the context of lesbian sexual health.

good point, agree. Should have been a bit more careful I was distracted thinking vengeful thoughts

 

[Bahnhof Strasse]

The idea that if you shag a woman you can't get HIV is rubbish. It's a small risk but it's not a non existent risk. But it's a popular myth. And it puts men and lesbians / bisexual women at risk.

Fully aware that men can and often do catch HIV from sex with women. Unsure as to how this affects lesbians though?

 

[purenarcotic]

Fully aware that men can and often do catch HIV from sex with women. Unsure as to how this affects lesbians though?

Lesbian safe sex is an issue that's not really discussed very widely. There is often a notion that lesbians don't need to think about safe sex because we can't catch anything. It's a complete nonsense, we are a lower risk group but not a no risk group.

It's just a bit of a soap box issue for me I guess. I didn't think it was totally unrelated.

 

[Yetman]

So what sort of stuff would you have to do to catch it? Please, go into as much detail as you need to

 

[DotCommunist]

I once saw Northants police gag a man with his own scarf for spitting at them when we were waiting to be processed. They loudly spoke about HIV risk while doing it to a cuffed man. Turns out HIV transmission from saliva is incredibly difficult to do from a spit. You'd need to drink a glass of infected spit to be at risk. I put in a complaint at his treatment but nothing ever came of it. as per.

 

[Bahnhof Strasse]

Lesbian safe sex is an issue that's not really discussed very widely. There is often a notion that lesbians don't need to think about safe sex because we can't catch anything. It's a complete nonsense, we are a lower risk group but not a no risk group.

It's just a bit of a soap box issue for me I guess. I didn't think it was totally unrelated.

Can lesbian sex transmit HIV (excluding extreme S&M obvs.)?

 

[Maurice Picarda]

Northants is probably the safest place in the world to gob at a copper, then. Rather mild response really.

 

[The Octagon]

I once saw Northants police gag a man with his own scarf for spitting at them when we were waiting to be processed. They loudly spoke about HIV risk while doing it to a cuffed man. Turns out HIV transmission from saliva is incredibly difficult to do from a spit. You'd need to drink a glass of infected spit to be at risk. I put in a complaint at his treatment but nothing ever came of it. as per.

A slight tangent, but I've always wondered about this saying (although I remember it being a bucket of spit rather than a glass).

Does it denote likely risk, or is it a concentration issue? Why a glass / bucket? If the former, surely an unlucky person could still contract it from the tinest amount of spittle?

 

[UnderOpenSky]

I once saw Northants police gag a man with his own scarf for spitting at them when we were waiting to be processed. They loudly spoke about HIV risk while doing it to a cuffed man. Turns out HIV transmission from saliva is incredibly difficult to do from a spit. You'd need to drink a glass of infected spit to be at risk. I put in a complaint at his treatment but nothing ever came of it. as per.

Spitting is pretty vile mind. As Silas Loom says he was probably lucky.

 

[DotCommunist]

Northants is probably the safest place in the world to gob at a copper, then. Rather mild response really.

They are relatively milder than the bunch of arrogant psychos who work for London Met yes. I've found playing nice with them means you get nice back. Totally different story with the met. I was threatened with serious assault for reading the shoulder numbers and repeating them back to my fellow arrestee by Peels finest. Never get chippy with the met, they can kill you and get away with it.

 

[DotCommunist]

Spitting is pretty vile mind. As Silas Loom says he was probably lucky.

custody waiting room cameras and a witness probably played a greater part than luck mate. I've no doubt that on his own and away from cam he'd have taken a hell of a beating

 

[Bahnhof Strasse]

Spitting is pretty vile mind. As Silas Loom says he was probably lucky.

Spitting is vile, but within the evidence presented to me on a court case I had to attend; One man ran up to a female officer and spat on her tunic and shouted, 'Get the fucking DNA off that you cunt'.

Which made me grin, just a bit.

 

[UnderOpenSky]

custody waiting room cameras and a witness probably played a greater part than luck mate. I've no doubt that on his own and away from cam he'd have taken a hell of a beating

I'm sure they could find a way if they wanted.

Anyway like you, I've found being nice, gets nice back, the exception being public order/protest situations.