Rape, sexual assault and harassment in the entertainment industry

[RedRedRose]

There were questions about his misogny after the Andrew Sachs prank call back in 2008. That stuck with me. I do, however, have to push back on him always being a grifter. He's always made a living off being famous - yes. Yet, at one time he was probably the most well known person arguing for boycotting elections and he publicly supported occupy (or whatever it was). I will also never forget the documentary he did taking the piss out of Mark Collett. However incredulous, non-political people I know knew something of radical ideas by shit Brand had pontificated on either in a book or on stage.

Unfortunately, in the end, being a misogynist celebrity bellend won out and the last I watched of him, was a year ago and he pushing some nonsense about Ukraine having bioweapon labs. (Where did that story go?). The last few years or so have seen him become indistinguishable from the Alex Jones crowd.

I hope the people he's fucked up get some closure, yet given his martyr complex, I am sure that won't be easy.

 

[Wilf]

Other than Galloway, has anyone on the 'left' defended Brand? I haven't seen anyone. Unless you still count that twat Paul Emberry.

Coming back to this, it looks like you might be right, which is a relief (though when it comes to rapes, whether the left got it right is hardly the main issue). I don't look on social media so might have missed some genuine lefts wading in or merely 'asking questions', like you say, beyond galloway. I wonder if this is merely to do with brand positioning himself in the frothosphere, a place where no genuine leftist would follow? Some have of course, but they would now be supporting him as frothists and wouldn't now seen as leftists, iyswim. What I'm really wondering is, if brand had spent his recent years youtubing against neoliberalism, whether he would now have a few leftists supporting him.

Galloway bucks the trend of course - whatever he comes out with, he's not a frothist. Solipsism, gruesome self interest and plenty more and his own 'career' have brought him to this point. He now chooses to sit on the opposite side to where the rest of the left/feminism are to be found. His version of masculinity is probably in play here as well.

 

[klang]

Solipsism

bless you. allergy or a bit of a side effect from the flu vaccination?

 

[LDC]

Coming back to this, it looks like you might be right, which is a relief (though when it comes to rapes, whether the left got it right is hardly the main issue). I don't look on social media so might have missed some genuine lefts wading in or merely 'asking questions', like you say, beyond galloway. I wonder if this is merely to do with brand positioning himself in the frothosphere, a place where no genuine leftist would follow? Some have of course, but they would now be supporting him as frothists and wouldn't now seen as leftists, iyswim. What I'm really wondering is, if brand had spent his recent years youtubing against neoliberalism, whether he would now have a few leftists supporting him.

Galloway bucks the trend of course - whatever he comes out with, he's not a frothist. Solipsism, gruesome self interest and plenty more and his own 'career' have brought him to this point. He now chooses to sit on the opposite side to where the rest of the left/feminism are to be found. His version of masculinity is probably in play here as well.

Brand and Galloway have a lot in common tbh.

 

[Pickman's model]

Coming back to this, it looks like you might be right, which is a relief (though when it comes to rapes, whether the left got it right is hardly the main issue). I don't look on social media so might have missed some genuine lefts wading in or merely 'asking questions', like you say, beyond galloway. I wonder if this is merely to do with brand positioning himself in the frothosphere, a place where no genuine leftist would follow? Some have of course, but they would now be supporting him as frothists and wouldn't now seen as leftists, iyswim. What I'm really wondering is, if brand had spent his recent years youtubing against neoliberalism, whether he would now have a few leftists supporting him.

Galloway bucks the trend of course - whatever he comes out with, he's not a frothist. Solipsism, gruesome self interest and plenty more and his own 'career' have brought him to this point. He now chooses to sit on the opposite side to where the rest of the left/feminism are to be found. His version of masculinity is probably in play here as well.

I've posted,years back, about gg offering a young woman of my acquaintance a researcher post on his first meeting her. He's much the same as brand. Only brand has never I think shared a platform with Farage

 

[gosub]

standing ovation for a suspected rapist. think it through. picture it as an image. that's some proper sci fi dystopian shit.

tbf. Those at one of Wembley's smaller venues had prebought their tickets and couldnt have seen the Dispatches program that was broadcast at about the same time as they were clapping. Subsequent gigs are "postponed"

 

[Knotted]

Breaking news on Sky, youtube has suspended the monetisation of his channel.

Russell Brand: BBC to launch review into comedian's time at the broadcaster

YouTube also said it had suspended the monetisation of Brand's channel for "violating our Creator Responsibility policy".

news.sky.com

I believe demonetisation also affects the algorithm negatively, so he'll be promoted less.

 

[Magnus McGinty]

standing ovation for a suspected rapist. think it through. picture it as an image. that's some proper sci fi dystopian shit.

Along with him including details of his alleged crimes in his set and people finding it funny.

 

[gosub]

Got to wonder about what else “everyone knows about” in the comedy/music/entertainment industries.

Maybe this will lead to people speaking up about others like it has in the past.

Operation Yewtree - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

if theres still money to be made from the talent...vested intrests will pour oil on troubled waters

 

[Wilf]

Brand and Galloway have a lot in common tbh.

'Poor sexual etiquette '. Yuk.

 

[tim]

He lives in the U.K. and (have not checked) would imagine that California has a statute of limitation on rape and this is past it. Which is why Times/Telegraph/Dispatches has gone all in; sue us ya cunt, like The Mail with their Murderers headline.

Roman Polanski may be past it but he is still wary of going to any place from where he could be extradited to California to face justice for raping that child in the 1970s.

 

[Pickman's model]

Roman Polanski may be past it but he is still wary of going to any place from where he could be extradited to California to face justice for raping that child in the 1970s.

Yeh but isn't that due to the proceedings being interrupted by his running away?

 

[Bahnhof Strasse]

Roman Polanski may be past it but he is still wary of going to any place from where he could be extradited to California to face justice for raping that child in the 1970s.

He was convicted and sentenced in absentia, there's no statue of limitations on fugitives on the run.

 

[Rimbaud]

At least he's not running for office

Yet... wouldn't surprise me these days tbqh.

 

[hitmouse]

This stuff has led to me coming across Pearl Davis for the first time, a 26 year old 'anti-feminist influencer' who (obviously) is skeptical of these allegations. She actually thinks women shouldn't be allowed to vote and produces a tshirt with that as a slogan. Won't link to any of her SM stuff (1.8 million YouTube subscribers...), but it's proper jaw dropping.

Absolutely wtaf is going on in the world.

Hadn't heard of Pearl Davis before, but yeah tradwife stuff seems to be a pretty big trend. Does the name Anna Khachiyan mean anything to you?

 

[Magnus McGinty]

He was convicted and sentenced in absentia, there's no statue of limitations on fugitives on the run.

I’m wondering what a statue of limitations looks like. Maybe Napoleon?

 

[steveo87]

Brand and Galloway have a lot in common tbh.

I've met him twice. Once when I was whispers the swp, and once I was at Uni. I was far two stoned to listen at the first one, and I was too bored to go to the 'drinks reception' at the second, because a: I was getting stoned b: he'd spent the entire two hour (TWO FUCKING HOURS OF THE CUNT) lecture on the 'Free Press' yammering on about his TV channel, that was based in the west Midlands and definitely, 100% not funded by Iran.
Anyway, a couple of my female friends who did go to it and said he was very weird- as on deliberately dismissive of any woman who tried to speak to him.

Either way, he's defo on the 'you wouldn't be surprised' list.

 

[LDC]

Hadn't heard of Pearl Davis before, but yeah tradwife stuff seems to be a pretty big trend. Does the name Anna Khachiyan mean anything to you?

No, but I came across her name falling into the rabbit hole of looking at all this, some (I said 'leftie' originally here but looking into it more it's weirder and less clear than that?) SM host I think hitmouse...?

 

[hitmouse]

No, but I came across her name falling into the rabbit hole of looking at all this, some (I said 'leftie' originally here but looking into it more it's weirder and less clear than that?) SM host I think hitmouse...?

Yeah, arguably one of the closest things to a prominent left Brand defender but as you say, a lot weirder and less clear than that. Never actually listened to her podcast, but from the wikipedia page:

The show covers current topics in American culture and politics and is a critique of neoliberalism and feminism in a manner both comedic and serious in tone.[12] The hosts are influenced by the work of Mark Fisher, Slavoj Žižek, Camille Paglia, Michel Houellebecq and Christopher Lasch.[22][23] Recurring topics include Russiagate, the #MeToo movement,[17] woke consumerism and call-out culture.

Several writers, artists, social commentators and cultural figures from across the political spectrum have appeared on Red Scare, including Elizabeth Bruenig, Angela Nagle, Elena Velez, Tulsi Gabbard, Glenn Greenwald, Steve Bannon,[24] Slavoj Žižek,[25] Adam Curtis, Alex Jones and Curtis Yarvin...

Both hosts supported Bernie Sanders in the 2020 Democratic primaries,[33] but later became disillusioned with both the political establishment and millennial leftist figures (such as Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez) for prioritizing identity politics over class.[34][35] Nekrasova, a practicing Catholic who has expressed sedevacantist views,[36] has been credited for trending Catholicism in certain demographics of millennials and zoomers.

People give £47,380 per month to the podcast.
Anyway, the Khachiyan quote that I'd seen going around was:

But to be strictly fair to her the main quote there is from before the allegations came out, her actual reaction to the allegations was just the "lol lmao I stand with Brand obviously" bit at the bottom. Nice to know that only British people can be literate, though.

 

[editor]

I was never successful enough in the music biz to mingle with many celebs, but there was one famous DJ who I witnessed first hand being sexually inappropriate with a young member of my band and I'm amazed his name hasn't surfaced.

 

[Graymalkin]

Thought of this thread when I saw it. From one of my wife's old MAD magazines circa 1989. Open secrets etc.

 

[Sue]

Thought of this thread when I saw it. From one of my wife's old MAD magazines circa 1989. Open secrets etc.

Not getting your point?

 

[Sweet FA]

Who are the caricatures?

 

[Graymalkin]

Who are the caricatures?

I don't think it's supposed to be anyone specific. It's a rather off colour gag about actresses having to earn their way to the top by spending "weekends with the producer".

To be clear, I'm not posting it for laughs. Just evidence of these kind of things being an open secret.

 

[Serge Forward]

The "casting couch" as it used to be called.

 

[Joe Chi Min]

Why is her past as a soft porn model relevant? Why do you think she should be ashamed of it? Does it make her a "slag" or something in your eyes? Have a pop at her horrible views - fine. but slut shaming? fuck off.

I don’t think I was slut-shaming at all. I think it was totally relevant due to the dangerous and polarising stuff she puts on twitter:

 

[Joe Chi Min]

Just a week?

Man's going to come back at me hard after 7 days of not being able to vent.

I'm going to get it hard. Why are you protecting this returner?

Genuine question.

No, I’m going to wish you well and pop you on ignore.

He turned up armed but then promptly shot himself in the foot.

Personally I think editor deserves credit for nipping that one in the bud so promptly, I’ve no hard-feelings that I wasn’t able to slug it out with Team Cobra (as in fuck me those chumps had been waiting, coiled).
At least now I know where they stand.

He seems to fixate and then meltdown.

This is an appalling pejorative to describe what is a characteristic of poor mental health.

It could be said then that Joe Chi Min is below average.

I’m in good company here then, aye

If it's so important -> feedback forum

It’s really not.

did you leave the online misogyny there, or did you follow it up with a dick pic and rape threat for extra lols?

I resent your attempt at irreverence.

Blaming glamour models for teenage boys masturbating over them is a new one.

Cute. And 17 likes too. A born winner.

 

[hash tag]

Yet another Manchester footballer accused of assault. At least the team has dropped him, for now
Antony: Man Utd winger has flown back to England and agreed to meet with Greater Manchester Police - Antony to speak with police after returning to England

 

[Joe Chi Min]

Well, don't I feel foolish now. Having liked Carr and seen him live a couple times.

Figures

Boyle was pretty vile back in the day, but seems to have given up on the shock-for-the-sake-of-it stuff in the latter half of the 2010s afaict. New World Order onwards he's tended to be more interesting.

Vile and almost completely unfunny.

Also, Frankie Boyle, who used to write for Carr iirc, has rape 'jokes' in his set. Afaik, he's never been accused of anything and he comes out with rape lines (I would guess) purely to invert your expectations. But still, just fuck off

Remember the late 00s and early 10s when the word rape became a common synonym for, amongst others: grabbed, occupied, seized, usurped, and/or appropriated?

I can vividly remember being marginalised by another in-group of people at uni for daring to suggest that that word shouldn’t be used for anything other than what it’s intended to mean. Not before the circle-jerk bullying and routine humiliation of course. But then again maybe I’m just:



Ay maomao ?

Also, Frankie Boyle, who used to write for Carr iirc, has rape 'jokes' in his set. Afaik, he's never been accused of anything and he comes out with rape lines (I would guess) purely to invert your expectations. But still, just fuck off

None of those mainstream acts were ever anything more than mildly amusing.

 

[tonysingh]

Figures



Vile and almost completely unfunny.



Remember the late 00s and early 10s when the word rape became a common synonym for, amongst others: grabbed, occupied, seized, usurped, and/or appropriated?

I can vividly remember being marginalised by another in-group of people at uni for daring to suggest that that word shouldn’t be used for anything other than what it’s intended to mean. Not before the circle-jerk bullying and routine humiliation of course. But then again maybe I’m just:

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Ay maomao ?



None of those mainstream acts were ever anything more than mildly amusing.

Figures?

Could you perhaps be a bit less coy and say what you're really trying to imply there?