Corax
Luke 5:16
I agree. I just instinctually didn't think it the best response in this instance. I think probably because it was in the context of something that labels itself as a discussion programme, iyswim.
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Question Time tonight
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Any Questions had no one from vaguely the centre left on tonight: Caroline Flint(uber Blairite) Ukip Councillor Louise Bours. (ex Brookie actress and Nuttalls partner) Stephen Dorell and Danny Alexander, not even a pretence of balance any more.
FridgeMagnet
Administrator
QT is one of the programmes that poisons the word "discussion" tbh, like "debate" has already been lost. It's just a means of closing down what people want to say. "We must discuss, which means talking about these things under these terms which we define, and if you say other things it's not discussion and is to be ignored."
kenny g
Sheeple Awake!
How the fuck it can be justified to have two brothers of a broadcasting dynasty as the sole presenters of the main radio and TV weekly political opportunity for the public to quiz politicians is beyond me. Have the only suitable people for 50 years been the males of one family?
SpookyFrank
A cheap source of teeth for aquarium gravel
If you engage with them, you run the risk of allowing debate to run on their terms. This is why the main political parties all talk about immigration the way they do, with half an eye on appeasing racists. It's why the concept of completely open borders, a basic requirement for a fairer world, is never even mentioned.
It is taken as read that immigration must be controlled, that people from certain places must be monitored once they arrive here and should not be treated the same as other citizens. This is not because it's rational or fair to behave like this, it's because people spend too much time listening to the views of people whose understanding of the world is rooted in manufactured racist ideas. Saying we should listen to everyone's views is just bullshit if no notice is paid to who knows what they're talking about and who doesn't.
If you hold a debate and you put an immigrant who knows how this country treats people up against a racist who claims to know everything but doesn't, that's not impartial. That's you coming down on the side of the racist by implying that his or her view is as valid as that of someone who has actual experience of the matter under discussion. The BBC does this sort of thing all the time, putting a politician with vested interests and a party line to follow up against a scientist to talk about a scientific issue and making it seem like the two side are equal. It's not impartiality, it's a deliberate distortion of the truth.
Steel Icarus
ersatz maven
Jack Monroe http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jack_Monroe
weltweit
Well-Known Member
A blogger, wrote about her bringing up her children on benefits which became a best seller, Jack Monroe ...
eta I see SI got there first.
Steel Icarus
ersatz maven
Fuck. That.
Corax
Luke 5:16
Corax
Luke 5:16
I'm no Monroe fanboy, but given the other panellists I was hoping she'd pipe up more tbh...
Steel Icarus
ersatz maven
And Piers Morgan
No, that's not a 'joke'
This changes everything. Perhaps Britain's most self-styled intellectual footballer with stick the head on old dough-face
Steel Icarus
ersatz maven
She was visibly nervous the first few minutes. Everyone else on the panel is used to the telly, I understand from people I know it takes some getting used to. Maybe she was a bit overawed by it. From what I watched she did ok.
Steel Icarus
ersatz maven
well, no one ever gets on that show - and I deliberately say show, not programme - without being the right type.
Is Neil Hamilton actually alive? He looks like he's been hideously reanimated. Much like his tired immigration claims.
maomao
普費斯
To ensure there is no democratic alternative whatsoever to the neoliberal economic agenda.
purenarcotic
Conveniently Pocket Sized
This doesn't mean anything unless you remember what they were smiling about. There was a woman who kept being caught on the mic sneezing hilariously loudly, if they both smiled at that it is hardly crime of the century. What did they smile about?
billy_bob
Air of bewilderment model's own
I find Grayling possibly the most cold, sneering, repulsive member of a government which offers stiff competition for that position. I bet he only ever smiles if he sees a poor person or a kitten being injured.
Barking_Mad
Non sibi sed omnibus
Not watched this in 6 years or so. Just makes me angry and frustrated because shouting at the tv is pointless. Sends my anxiety levels up too.
Did I hear Joey Barton is on next week?
Did I hear Joey Barton is on next week?
SpookyFrank
A cheap source of teeth for aquarium gravel
Sometimes I can only stomach about five minutes of QT, this week's edition was one such. Shame really as I have a lot of time for Jack Monroe.
Theisticle
Well-Known Member
Are they taking the piss? Piers Morgan and Joey Barton on tonight's panel.
Wilf
Slouching towards Billingham
That's Joseph Barton to you - my favourite to lead the Libdems after the next election.
Wilf
Slouching towards Billingham
Actually, dicking about aside, I might just watch it if Barton's on. I'm not going to go down the Liam road of defending him, he's one of twitter's top twats - and he did lose us the title a couple of years ago with his histrionics - but he has his humane moments.
Actually, no, I won't. That would mean watching the rest of 'em.
Actually, no, I won't. That would mean watching the rest of 'em.
FridgeMagnet
Administrator
If there's anything remotely interesting, which I suspect there won't be, it will be on YouTube in minutes anyway.
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