brogdale
Coming to terms with late onset Anarchism
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chilango
Hypothetical Wanker
I dunno. Voting for Farage's various mobs has arguably been the most effective use of a vote in England over the last decade or so.
brogdale
Coming to terms with late onset Anarchism
"...most effective use of a vote in England..."
Interesting concept and sounds like a thread in itself.
There will always be 3% of a random cross section of the population that will believe, say or do anything you can think of. Think of your class at school and then imagine the most ridiculous kid in that class. (If you can’t think of the most ridiculous kid, it was you.)
Corbyn was behind whoever was tory leader in the credibility poll for the entirety of his time as leader (IIRC - there may have been one or two polls where he was ahead). Fairly sure Miliband was behind Cameron throughout the coalition too. This is pretty normal.
ItWillNeverWork
Messy Crimbobs, fellow humans.
Third time lucky, I guess.
MickiQ
In My Defence I was left Unsupervised
Only BoZo has actually been PM so a lot of people voting for Corbyn/Starmer as best PM aren't really voting on that basis, this is more an indication of how pissed off they are with BoZo rather than how pleased they are with the alternative. A more pertinent question is not why Starmer is unpopular, it's why Bozo is not.
Supine
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LibDem surge! Their new leader Naylor Lauren for PM!
brogdale
Coming to terms with late onset Anarchism
ReFucks holding firm at 3%.
brogdale
Coming to terms with late onset Anarchism
10k deaths per point lead.
splonkydoo
Well-Known Member
A depressing and petty thought - but am I as bad as Emilie Oldknow et al now for wishing that Labour get absolutely trashed at the next election?
I dunno if it really means much - we're still in the middle of a national crisis which saw them polling over 50% last spring, and currently the mood music is positive - and however you swing it, the various vaccine gambles seem to have paid off. The support given by the treasury is widely seen very positively, no-one is really listening about the corruption and the 100,000 dead is already forgotten.
I think until this is over, you have to assume a strong lead for whoever is in government is the default. Maybe a more vigorous opposition could eke out a few points, but who knows.
I think until this is over, you have to assume a strong lead for whoever is in government is the default. Maybe a more vigorous opposition could eke out a few points, but who knows.
brogdale
Coming to terms with late onset Anarchism
Maybe, but the folk now in charge of the Labour party obviously thought that polling mattered when they sought to undermine the previous leadership by repeatedly saying that any other leader would be 20 points ahead.
they were wrong - I'm not sure adopting one of the many things they were wrong about is much use is it?
chilango
Hypothetical Wanker
I always hope Labour take a heavy beating at the polls.
...just that the other Parties need to take an even heavier beating at the same time.
ska invita
back on the other side
Duh duh, duh duh, dida-dada, boooowm
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brogdale
Coming to terms with late onset Anarchism
Quite so, but polls like this afford useful opportunities to re-remind them quite how wrong they were then and how fucking useless they are now.
It can be used to remind them how wrong they were - I don't think it says anything about how useless they are though. They were wrong to point at the polls and say 'anyone else would be 20 points ahead'. You're wrong to point at the polls and say 'this proves you're useless'. The times are unprecedented, and the polls can't be trusted to say anything right now except how the population is feeling about the pandemic.
brogdale
Coming to terms with late onset Anarchism
You don't really need to point to polling to show that the LP is useless, but they kind of corroborate what is evident.
ska invita
back on the other side
i think these polls are way beyond a vaccine boost/rally around the leader
starmer has both been played and played himself
starmer has both been played and played himself
maomao
普費斯
So them doing really shit in the polls and being absolutely useless is just a coincidence?
I'm dubious that that (one-off!
) YouGov poll was specifically showing an anti-Starner vote really, useless though he is.I'm not sure that the poll represents much (if it all!) beyond a vaccine boost, myself.
With a booster-jab from Mail and Express and Telegraph etc., for a lot of people.
I couldn't see any voter age breakdown in YouGov's ultra-brief tweeting of their poll, either
Kevbad the Bad
Amiable Bowel Syndrome
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