Police, Crime, Sentencing and Courts Bill
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nogojones
spelling is overrated
There's been ongoing protests outside the docks police station for a while now over the killing of Mohamud Hassan. So there's a reasonable groundswell of hatred for the police here at the moment. The police have been kicking in doors and generally harrassing organisers and legal observers.Wales protests.
Protest gathers in Cardiff against Police, Crime, Sentencing and Courts Bill - Herald.Wales
A LARGE crowd has gathered outside Cardiff Bay Police station in a protest against Police, Crime, Sentencing and Courts Bill, and for victims of violencewww.herald.wales
teqniq
DisMembered
Cross-posted from the Wales forum:
Breaking News: Mohamud Hassan: Four More Officers Now Face Formal Investigation.
The case of Mohamud Hassan has taken an explosive leap forward today as the Independent Office of Police Conduct (IOPC) announced an additi...
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stethoscope
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Should you be vaguely interested in the vote breakdown.. Police, Crime, Sentencing and Courts Bill: Second Reading - Commons' votes in Parliament - UK Parliament
Jeff Robinson
Marxist-Lentilist: Jackboots and Jackfruit
A shitty rightwing authoritarian government for a shitty rightwing authoritarian country.
bimble
floofy
This country is so fucked. They passed it without a murmur and what’s left is maybe the house of lourdes saying hang on a minute to priti.
www.politics.co.uk
Anti-protest bill: Freedom dies in silence - Politics.co.uk
The truly frightening thing was that they didn't even argue for it.
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Winot
I wholeheartedley agree with your viewpoint
This country is so fucked. They passed it without a murmur and what’s left is maybe the house of lourdes saying hang on a minute to priti.
Anti-protest bill: Freedom dies in silence - Politics.co.uk
The truly frightening thing was that they didn't even argue for it.
We’re going to need more than a miracle to sort out this government.
not-bono-ever
meh
Strange shorthand around world politics at the min innit - get a duplicitous populist moron at the helm and everyone in the party shuts up.
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
Come come, Boris Johnson isn't a moron
He's far less capable than any moron would be
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
Isn't that photo from about 2009? Sure there've been more recent pictures of ugly cops
Lord Camomile
Yipchaa!
Playing my usual role of knowing very little, with that massive Tory majority is 'kill the bill' in any way feasible?
Also a little surprised that trade unions don't seem to be more vocal about this, given it's in part an attack on one of the fundamental tools of the movement.
Also a little surprised that trade unions don't seem to be more vocal about this, given it's in part an attack on one of the fundamental tools of the movement.
Little Piranha
Small or far away?
Just attended this meeting about the effects of the bill and how we can fight it organised by Sisters Uncut, with speakers from many affected communities.
Serge Forward
Just enjoyin' my coffee.
Yeah, was at the same meeting... well I say "at" but it seems they had over 2500 requests to participate so I couldn't get in. Still, I watched it on livestream. It seemed well organised with some good, powerful speakers. I do hope we can build something from this.
Ground Elder
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SpookyFrank
A cheap source of teeth for aquarium gravel
Not convinced the delay will improve matters. They'll just be waiting for a week when a filth hasn't just been charged with murder.
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Serge Forward
Just enjoyin' my coffee.
Indeed. Right now, it's become a political hot potato. They'll be waiting till it cools down. We need to keep building resistance and not let up, because it's coming.
muscovyduck
Good IT skills and food hygiene competent
Once more people are vaccinated it might be easier to get people out protesting against this, so it could still work in our favour yet
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
Till there's another good day to bury bad news
Lord Camomile
Yipchaa!
Aye, was at the same meeting; as you say, a really strong range of good speakers.
Blimey.
Delay gives everyone more time, of course; let's hope we manage to make more of it than they do
hitmouse
so defeated, thinks it's funny
Sisters Uncut statement on the delay: Sisters Uncut: BREAKING: Sisters Uncut declare victory at halting police powers bill in Parliament
Serge Forward
Just enjoyin' my coffee.
Gotta cheer for the win but this also worries me a bit. It's one battle, the rest is yet to come.
One of the main concerns I've had about building any prospective campaign was that there was so little time to get anything up and running. Labour Party acquiescence with the bill, coupled with it being generally ignored by the media, meant it wasn't in that many people's minds.
The cops wading into the Clapham Common women at a peaceful vigil was what really brought the bill to public attention. It was a massive own goal for the police and government, brought about by the government's (in this case Patel's) over-confidence that they can literally get away with anything right now.
Tactically, what the government will now want is for the Clapham Common debacle to fade from public memory, and when it does, they'll bring back the bill, possibly add a few clauses of tougher sentences for rapists (to get Labour MPs on board), but they'll still keep in all the draconian no right to protest shit.
It's our job to not let it fade from public memory, because next time, they're unlikely to make any Clapham Common style mistakes. They'll keep it as low-key as they can, and hope that their neo-liberal variant of fascism slides in with barely a whisper.
Though to be fair on Sisters Uncut, they do say "this is just the beginning. We are ready to fight the police powers bill at every stage of parliament" so fair enough. But let's not sit back and count our chickens.
One of the main concerns I've had about building any prospective campaign was that there was so little time to get anything up and running. Labour Party acquiescence with the bill, coupled with it being generally ignored by the media, meant it wasn't in that many people's minds.
The cops wading into the Clapham Common women at a peaceful vigil was what really brought the bill to public attention. It was a massive own goal for the police and government, brought about by the government's (in this case Patel's) over-confidence that they can literally get away with anything right now.
Tactically, what the government will now want is for the Clapham Common debacle to fade from public memory, and when it does, they'll bring back the bill, possibly add a few clauses of tougher sentences for rapists (to get Labour MPs on board), but they'll still keep in all the draconian no right to protest shit.
It's our job to not let it fade from public memory, because next time, they're unlikely to make any Clapham Common style mistakes. They'll keep it as low-key as they can, and hope that their neo-liberal variant of fascism slides in with barely a whisper.
Though to be fair on Sisters Uncut, they do say "this is just the beginning. We are ready to fight the police powers bill at every stage of parliament" so fair enough. But let's not sit back and count our chickens.
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
chickens will be banned from demos under the proposed legislation
Humberto
Well-Known Member
There is absolutely no justification for this Bill and the government needs to be held to account. Their schtick seems to be: choose the shittest course of action from a bad situation. No long term vision, just 'manage' the fallout from their reckless mishandling. They always manage to look after themselves and their interests though, and fuck the rest us it seems.
They are totally shameless and lacking in accountability. It took a grassroots lobbying campaign to get Labour to oppose at the eleventh hour. I didn't expect much from Starmer's Labour but I'm disappointed with him still. No confidence in him. I agree with Serge Forward above, it was only the confluence with police abuses at peaceful vigils that brought urgency and wider attention to this terrible Bill.
They are totally shameless and lacking in accountability. It took a grassroots lobbying campaign to get Labour to oppose at the eleventh hour. I didn't expect much from Starmer's Labour but I'm disappointed with him still. No confidence in him. I agree with Serge Forward above, it was only the confluence with police abuses at peaceful vigils that brought urgency and wider attention to this terrible Bill.
PR1Berske
Alligator in chains by the park gates.
It has been noted and noticed that the Bill, which was supposed to be pushed through the Commons at pace, and with haste, has apparently stalled. There is currently no Committee Stage, so the men (mostly men) in the corridors of power and along the usual channels have perhaps been made aware of a very large pause button being deployed somewhere near the offices of one Rt. Hon Mrs P. Patel.
Timetable;:
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Timetable;:
Police, Crime, Sentencing and Courts Bill Stages - Parliamentary Bills - UK Parliament
View stages which have occurred or have been scheduled for Police, Crime, Sentencing and Courts Bill
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
Perhaps they should simply press the eject buttonIt has been noted and noticed that the Bill, which was supposed to be pushed through the Commons at pace, and with haste, has apparently stalled. There is currently no Committee Stage, so the men (mostly men) in the corridors of power and along the usual channels have perhaps been made aware of a very large pause button being deployed somewhere near the offices of one Rt. Hon Mrs P. Patel.
Timetable;:
Police, Crime, Sentencing and Courts Bill Stages - Parliamentary Bills - UK Parliament
View stages which have occurred or have been scheduled for Police, Crime, Sentencing and Courts Bill
teqniq
DisMembered
As I've said before they are hoping to slip it under the radar when people are distracted by other things and the initial furore has died down but it also occurs to me that the fact that they've delayed it's progress could be because they actually feel very insecure - yes I know they have an 80 seat majority but to me it appears that this is a government of mediocrities. None of them are actually really up to the job at hand and they know it. All they really have is flag-shagging jingoism, that and the lining of theirs and their mate's pockets and it's all wearing a bit thin.It has been noted and noticed that the Bill, which was supposed to be pushed through the Commons at pace, and with haste, has apparently stalled. There is currently no Committee Stage, so the men (mostly men) in the corridors of power and along the usual channels have perhaps been made aware of a very large pause button being deployed somewhere near the offices of one Rt. Hon Mrs P. Patel.
Timetable;:
Police, Crime, Sentencing and Courts Bill Stages - Parliamentary Bills - UK Parliament
View stages which have occurred or have been scheduled for Police, Crime, Sentencing and Courts Bill
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
I suppose they'd say you don't know how stressful it can be shagging a flag and making sure all the cum avoids the blue and red bits
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