Petition to raise the sentences for animal abusers!!!

[tattoolemky]

Hi,my name is James and I am a fervent animal lover. Following the 2 tragedies that have recently happened-Fire at Manchester Dogs Home and one at a farm in Smalley,both of which have been arson attacks that resulted in the death of almost 120 animals-I have set up this petition to call for an increase in sentences for this kind of crime. I would greatly appreciate it if you could take time out to sign this,and if possible to share it with your friends all over social media-every step will help. These animals need us to speak up for them,to get them the justice they deserve. Without people like you and me to do this,abusers will keep getting away scot-free to repeat the offence. Thank you for taking the time to read this.

http://www.change.org/p/chris-grayl...utm_medium=facebook&utm_source=share_petition

 

[sim667]

But without having a clear idea of what constitutes animal abuse I don't know whether I should sign or not.

I forgot to frontline my cat this month…… Im pretty sure there are people out there insane enough to report that as animal abuse….

Whilst I agree a fine and a slap on the wrist isn't enough for most animal abuse cases, a non-descript internet petition with zero context is not going to convince me to sign it.

Yet most people who will be up in arms about these fires in the dogs homes will look nonchalantly the other way as they eat their battery farmed eggs.

 

[tattoolemky]

I'm not forcing anyone to sign,and I'm not going to lose sleep over someone that doesn't want to do so...get over yourself,I already have!

 

[el-ahrairah]

well, you're a bit of a prick aren't you. you're here asking us to do something for you, to get abusive when someone queries it isn't going to make anyone very happen.

 

[ddraig]

are you a vegan lemky?

someone had to do it

 

[sim667]

Headline for Internet news today "Man with ideals irate when questioned"

2/10 for effort, managed to set up petition, but failed when he acted like a cunt because someone asks a genuine and valid question

 

[souljacker]

Maximum sentence for arson is life. Seems to me that rather than an increase in sentence for the crime, you need to petition for animals lives to be considered legally the same as a human one. Which aint ever going to happen.

 

[ddraig]

e2a to Sim
your 2nd line and implication that someone would have a pop at you for animal abuse for not frontlining is a bit off though no?

 

[sim667]

e2a to Sim
your 2nd line and implication that someone would have a pop at you for animal abuse for not frontlining is a bit off though no?

I don't know..... I know a girl who works at a kennels and cattery. She's always saying people don't deserve to have pets for literally the most crazed reasons.

The point is there's no real line in the sand about what is abuse and what isn't?

Training an attack dog, is that abusive? Dressing a fucking chihuahua up in a sailor suit, I'd call that abusive.

 

[souljacker]

Putting a budgie in a cage is pretty fucking out of order IMO.

 

[Dr_Herbz]

Putting a budgie in a cage is pretty fucking out of order IMO.

Locking any animal in a cage is out of order... IMHO (including fish in tanks)

 

[el-ahrairah]

Locking any animal in a cage is out of order... IMHO (including fish in tanks)

what about when you put the dog in a travel cage?

 

[souljacker]

what about when you put the dog in a travel cage?

Out of order. Let it run free!

 

[Wilson]

I think most of those dogs in dog homes like that one in Manchester should be pts, it's cruel to lock them away like that.

 

[sim667]

Putting a budgie in a cage is pretty fucking out of order IMO.

What about budgie smuggling?

 

[sim667]

846 signatures for such a volatile subject…… barely any……….he must have a been a prick to a LOT of people……

 

[19sixtysix]

What about budgie smuggling?

Crime against fashion

 

[8115]

What's the minimum and maximum at the moment?

What do you think about dangerous dogs?

 

[Dr_Herbz]

what about when you put the dog in a travel cage?

If it's absolutely necessary, like on a boat, then it's a necessary evil but otherwise it should be as free as you.

 

[sim667]

So it would be cruel not to take a cat to a vet to have a treatment, but at the same time generally speaking you need to put a cat in a travel cage to take it to a vet, and that would in itself be cruel?

 

[Dr_Herbz]

So it would be cruel not to take a cat to a vet to have a treatment, but at the same time generally speaking you need to put a cat in a travel cage to take it to a vet, and that would in itself be cruel?

Why do you need to put the cat in a cage? I took my dog to the vet loads of times and never put it in a cage.

 

[tufty79]

Why do you need to put the cat in a cage? I took my dog to the vet loads of times and never put it in a cage.

You ever tried carrying an uncaged cat on public transport?

 

[8ball]

Without people like you and me to do this,abusers will keep getting away scot-free to repeat the offence.

Were these fires caused by repeat arsonists?

 

[souljacker]

What about budgie smuggling?

There needs to be far stronger penalties. I shall petition my MP forthwith.

 

[Dr_Herbz]

You ever tried carrying an uncaged cat on public transport?

That's why I said that if it's absolutely necessary, then it's a necessary evil

 

[8115]

So it would be cruel not to take a cat to a vet to have a treatment, but at the same time generally speaking you need to put a cat in a travel cage to take it to a vet, and that would in itself be cruel?

I reckon a lot of what they do at the vets is bullshit. All our cats grew old naturally and didn't get put down unless they needed it.

Cats sometimes go off to die alone if they are dying, if they can find a field etc apparently. Better than having a big needle shoved in you.

 

[tufty79]

but things like vaccinations/chipping/health checks are useful, and not really do it yourself options..

 

[Dr_Herbz]

but things like vaccinations/chipping/health checks are useful, and not really do it yourself options..

They are here... I always vaccinated my dog myself. I hated doing it but it was 1/4 the price of a vet doing it.

 

[8ball]

They are here... I always vaccinated my dog myself. I hated doing it but it was 1/4 the price of a vet doing it.

There are decent youtube instructional videos for most kinds of amateur home veterinary surgery.

 

[tattoolemky]

I'm not forcing anyone to sign,and I'm not going to lose sleep over someone that doesn't want to do so...get over yourself,I already have!

This is what I said originally..Yet I've been called a prick and a cunt...But why leave a comment just to say that you won't sign it in the first place. That's like seeing an advert in Argos,then going in just to tell them you won't be buying that item..