cupid_stunt
Merry fecking Christmas.
Ah. OK. I know bugger all about them, which is now blatantly obvious.
TBF, before covid I used to vape, but I have no fucking what a 'pod vape' is.
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TBF, before covid I used to vape, but I have no fucking what a 'pod vape' is.
UnderOpenSky
baseline neural therapy
Ah. OK. I know bugger all about them, which is now blatantly obvious.
Something like isn't much bigger then a disposable and is known as a pod (the pod being the kind of tank it uses)
mr steev
magic thought wizard
Having a nice flavour has helped me shift from tobacco. I'd much rather have a nice hit of vanilla custard than a foul tasting rollie. When trying to switch to vaping you need all the encouragement you can get to not have a fag. Not tasting nice would be just another excuse
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
He's a priest in one of the star wars moviesTBF, before covid I used to vape, but I have no fucking what a 'pod vape' is.
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hiraethified
It's a shame that the attractive taste is proving a hit with kids though.
Use of vapes (e-cigarettes) among young people in Great Britain - ASH
This factsheet analyses how behaviour and attitudes to vapes (e-cigarettes) among young people have changed over time.
I tend not to buy the disposable ones but those elf bars are bloody nice. I even bought their liquid for a refillable but it wasn’t the same.
mx wcfc
Well-Known Member
My juice is practically tasteless. Occasionally get a hint of flavour with a brand new coil.
I've tried more expensive flavoured ones, but the taste interferes with the taste my beer.
mr steev
magic thought wizard
The taste of mine is very subtle. Like you, I can't be done with strong flavours as they don't go well with beer.
mr steev
magic thought wizard
I think the availability is the main thing. Disposables should be banned, and they should come down on hard dodgy shops. You'd still have the internet though, so I'm not sure that would be enough.It's a shame that the attractive taste is proving a hit with kids though.
Use of vapes (e-cigarettes) among young people in Great Britain - ASH
This factsheet analyses how behaviour and attitudes to vapes (e-cigarettes) among young people have changed over time.ash.org.uk
Banning flavours would be akin to banning flavoured ciders. Whilst they do make them more palatable for kids, there are plenty of adults who legally enjoy them
UnderOpenSky
baseline neural therapy
It's a shame that the attractive taste is proving a hit with kids though.
Use of vapes (e-cigarettes) among young people in Great Britain - ASH
This factsheet analyses how behaviour and attitudes to vapes (e-cigarettes) among young people have changed over time.
Maybe we should ban sweet flavoured alcoholic drinks then?
jontz01
taking refuge in the loft
Bar juice in a vaporesso xros is virtually identical to the disposable ones. Much too sweet for me but a very good alternative to disposables.
Also 10mg nic is less sugary sweet than the 20mg's.
I must admit to sometimes grabbing a disposable, maybe once a month when I'm caught out but I don't like doing it and would be happy to see them banned for the environmental damage...
The amount of kids vaping these days is shocking. It's not like they have to hide behind the bike sheds like we did. There is no lingering smell, stinky fingers or hair, it's so easy to get away with. They vape in class, vape in shops etc etc. The amount of nic that a lot of these kids are inhaling is like smoking 20 a day. All the effort that govts have put in to stop smoking but the vape market seems totally unregulated and the products definitely seem to be targeting the young uns.
jontz01
taking refuge in the loft
Do you remember the uproar when Hooch first came out?
UnderOpenSky
baseline neural therapy
jontz01
taking refuge in the loft
Back in NZ about 2 years ago, you couldn't buy flavoured disposable vape pods in shops (only mint variants and tobacco) but the juice was available online for refillable mods. Then you introduce the element of needing a card purchase and delivery.
Also, from memory, you couldn't buy disposable pens from corner shops, more of a coil/tank top for a rechargeable mod. don't know if it's changed. I'll find out in a couple of months.
It felt better regulated tbh but they're going super strict on smoking in general over there.
Also, from memory, you couldn't buy disposable pens from corner shops, more of a coil/tank top for a rechargeable mod. don't know if it's changed. I'll find out in a couple of months.
It felt better regulated tbh but they're going super strict on smoking in general over there.
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hiraethified
Except flavoured alcoholic drinks don't exist for the sole purpose of weaning adults off an addictive substance.
UnderOpenSky
baseline neural therapy
Vapes aren't marketing themselves to do that either. They aren't sold as stop smoking aid.
People may use them that way, but they are a thing in their own right, possibly a harm reduction measure, but frankly as a someone who has vapes for a decade now their a shit way to give up.
The argument was absolutely made the sweet alcoholic drinks were to entice younger drinkers. I mean I don't think young people should be vaping, but young people are going to do things they probably shouldn't. It's part of growing up. I'm sure plenty of us were smoking unfiltered tobacco, soap bar and doing cheap speed washed down with cider. Tbh in comparison vaping seems a bit tame.
editor
hiraethified
They literally are.
Using e-cigarettes to stop smoking
Find out about electronic cigarettes (e-cigarettes), including how they work and how vaping may help you quit smoking.
www.nhs.uk
Vaping to quit smoking - Better Health
Find out the facts about vaping from the NHS – including why it's an effective way to quit smoking, the side effects, if it's harmful and whether it's safe to vape if you're pregnant.
www.nhs.uk
UnderOpenSky
baseline neural therapy
They literally are.
Using e-cigarettes to stop smoking
Find out about electronic cigarettes (e-cigarettes), including how they work and how vaping may help you quit smoking.
Vaping to quit smoking - Better Health
Find out the facts about vaping from the NHS – including why it's an effective way to quit smoking, the side effects, if it's harmful and whether it's safe to vape if you're pregnant.
That's the NHS. Not marketing.
I've never seen any of the major vape brands doing it.
editor
hiraethified
And the Vapestore - 'one of the UK’s most popular online vape shops' - says:
12 E-Liquid Flavours For Beginners | Vapestore Blog | Vapestore Blog
Swapping smoking cigarettes for vaping is easily one of the best decisions you can make for your health, finances and all-round wellbeing. But did you know that it can also be one of the most enjoyable and rewarding choices you can make, opening up a whole new world of flavour while still...
www.vapestore.co.uk
UnderOpenSky
baseline neural therapy
And the Vapestore - 'one of the UK’s most popular online vape shops' - says:
12 E-Liquid Flavours For Beginners | Vapestore Blog | Vapestore Blog
Swapping smoking cigarettes for vaping is easily one of the best decisions you can make for your health, finances and all-round wellbeing. But did you know that it can also be one of the most enjoyable and rewarding choices you can make, opening up a whole new world of flavour while still...
An online reseller (and not disposables). Are Smok doing it? Elf bar? Vapperso? ELeaf? Voopoo? Innokin?
These things might be used as stop smoking aids, but it's not what they are sold as. It's why when you go to Asda they are next to tobacco and not next to the nicotine patches.
Let's ban disposables for the sake of the planet. Let's make enforce the laws we have to stop kids buying these. But this "Won't someone think of the children" thing is daft. I assuming that you must have had your share of experiences before you were 18?
editor
hiraethified
Literally 5 secs Googling:
ELF Bar can help smokers quit smoking in several ways. First, it provides a nicotine hit without the harmful chemicals found in tobacco smoke. Vaping is a safer alternative to smoking because it does not produce tar, carbon monoxide, and other harmful chemicals found in tobacco smoke.
ELF Bar can help smokers with some of the benefits of quitting
Smoking is a harmful habit that has claimed countless lives around the world. It is a leading cause of preventable death, causing several health issues such as lung cancer, heart disease, and respiratory illnesses. However, quitting smoking is not easy. Nicotine addiction is a powerful force...liquidecigaretteelectronique.com
Will Elf Bars help me stop smoking?
Elf Bars are great for ex-smokers, or those looking to make the transition. The throat hit and MTL design mimic cigarettes. Elf Bar 600 vapes have three nicotine strengths...
www.vaporshopdirect.com
I'm done now.
UnderOpenSky
baseline neural therapy
Literally 5 secs Googling:
Will Elf Bars help me stop smoking?
Elf Bars are great for ex-smokers, or those looking to make the transition. The throat hit and MTL design mimic cigarettes. Elf Bar 600 vapes have three nicotine strengths...
I'm done now.
You posted another resellers link.
Vaping no doubt will come with harm, but it's no doubt better then smoking. The NHS agrees. One reason many people switch is it's enjoyable. You appear to want ban something that has proved possibly the most effective alternative to date.
Here is their website if it helps?
editor
hiraethified
But that's just down to marketing and getting around advertising bans.
ska invita
back on the other side
Too much negativity about vaping on here.... Its not just about quiting smoking tobacco...If people want to vape thats great, same as with any other drug - go for it - enjoy yourself. Parallel with alcohol: Ban pubs and off licences and lets have prescription only alcohol for those trying to quit drinking and add stale marmite flavouring to beer to stop people enjoying the taste.
newme
Giant in Pastyland now
Bottles seem to have a stupid design tho, no tapered end so there's always some left which seems daft, I end up lining them up upside down to get the last bits out which seems unnecessary.
newme
Giant in Pastyland now
Yeh did think it sounded a lot like the alcopops thing with flavours. Have same laws for nicotine regardless of source, challenge 25 like booze. Penalties for selling to minors, same advertising bans.
People have mentioned advertising a lot and I've never actually seen any plus it seems to be banned? Sure there must be some I'm just not seeing so where is it all? Or is it shops? Make that the same as cigs too, covered and not viewable without asking.
cupid_stunt
Merry fecking Christmas.
The advertising ban covers TV, radio, newspapers, magazines and most online media including social media.
But, for some reason, vape ads are permitted on outdoor posters, shop windows, buses, flyers, direct mail and on cinema screens.
newme
Giant in Pastyland now
Ah that'll be it, guessing we aren't zoned for the flyers and mailers for some reason, all that stuff goes straight in the bin or recycling anyway, loads of domino's and supermarket ones here mainly, cinema we have pre booked seats so turn up to miss the adverts anyway on the few times a year we go. Don't use the bus and towns mainly useful for the pharmacy. Certainly a lot of vape places about but I get mine online so ignore them.
Should be a blanket ban tho like other tobacco products.
cupid_stunt
Merry fecking Christmas.
I've had special offer flyers delivered at my place, I've also seen them handed out, outside at least a couple of vape stores in town, some of those stores cover their shop windows completely with promotional offers, I've also spotted ads on the sides & rear of buses.
I agree that it should be a blanket ban on advertising, including shop windows and instore too.
editor
hiraethified
There's also plenty of vape shops in the High Street and places openly selling vapes.
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