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Petition: ban disposable vapes

But making such things attractive to children with funky colours and sweet flavours also has to be part of the discussion.

Having a nice flavour has helped me shift from tobacco. I'd much rather have a nice hit of vanilla custard than a foul tasting rollie. When trying to switch to vaping you need all the encouragement you can get to not have a fag. Not tasting nice would be just another excuse
 
Having a nice flavour has helped me shift from tobacco. I'd much rather have a nice hit of vanilla custard than a foul tasting rollie. When trying to switch to vaping you need all the encouragement you can get to not have a fag. Not tasting nice would be just another excuse

It's a shame that the attractive taste is proving a hit with kids though.
In March/April 2023 the proportion of children experimenting with vaping had grown by 50% year on year, from one in thirteen to one in nine. Children’s awareness of promotion of vapes has also grown, particularly in shops where more than half of all children report seeing e-cigarettes being promoted, and online where nearly a third report e-cigarette promotion.
 
I tend not to buy the disposable ones but those elf bars are bloody nice. I even bought their liquid for a refillable but it wasn’t the same.
 
Having a nice flavour has helped me shift from tobacco. I'd much rather have a nice hit of vanilla custard than a foul tasting rollie. When trying to switch to vaping you need all the encouragement you can get to not have a fag. Not tasting nice would be just another excuse
My juice is practically tasteless. Occasionally get a hint of flavour with a brand new coil.
I've tried more expensive flavoured ones, but the taste interferes with the taste my beer.
 
My juice is practically tasteless. Occasionally get a hint of flavour with a brand new coil.
I've tried more expensive flavoured ones, but the taste interferes with the taste my beer.

The taste of mine is very subtle. Like you, I can't be done with strong flavours as they don't go well with beer.
 
It's a shame that the attractive taste is proving a hit with kids though.

I think the availability is the main thing. Disposables should be banned, and they should come down on hard dodgy shops. You'd still have the internet though, so I'm not sure that would be enough.

Banning flavours would be akin to banning flavoured ciders. Whilst they do make them more palatable for kids, there are plenty of adults who legally enjoy them
 
I tend not to buy the disposable ones but those elf bars are bloody nice. I even bought their liquid for a refillable but it wasn’t the same.
Bar juice in a vaporesso xros is virtually identical to the disposable ones. Much too sweet for me but a very good alternative to disposables.
Also 10mg nic is less sugary sweet than the 20mg's.




I must admit to sometimes grabbing a disposable, maybe once a month when I'm caught out but I don't like doing it and would be happy to see them banned for the environmental damage...

The amount of kids vaping these days is shocking. It's not like they have to hide behind the bike sheds like we did. There is no lingering smell, stinky fingers or hair, it's so easy to get away with. They vape in class, vape in shops etc etc. The amount of nic that a lot of these kids are inhaling is like smoking 20 a day. All the effort that govts have put in to stop smoking but the vape market seems totally unregulated and the products definitely seem to be targeting the young uns.
 
Back in NZ about 2 years ago, you couldn't buy flavoured disposable vape pods in shops (only mint variants and tobacco) but the juice was available online for refillable mods. Then you introduce the element of needing a card purchase and delivery.

Also, from memory, you couldn't buy disposable pens from corner shops, more of a coil/tank top for a rechargeable mod. don't know if it's changed. I'll find out in a couple of months.

It felt better regulated tbh but they're going super strict on smoking in general over there.
 
Except flavoured alcoholic drinks don't exist for the sole purpose of weaning adults off an addictive substance.

Vapes aren't marketing themselves to do that either. They aren't sold as stop smoking aid.

People may use them that way, but they are a thing in their own right, possibly a harm reduction measure, but frankly as a someone who has vapes for a decade now their a shit way to give up.

The argument was absolutely made the sweet alcoholic drinks were to entice younger drinkers. I mean I don't think young people should be vaping, but young people are going to do things they probably shouldn't. It's part of growing up. I'm sure plenty of us were smoking unfiltered tobacco, soap bar and doing cheap speed washed down with cider. Tbh in comparison vaping seems a bit tame.
 
Vapes aren't marketing themselves to do that either. They aren't sold as stop smoking aid.
They literally are.

In recent years, e-cigarettes have become a very popular stop smoking aid in the UK.

Also known as vapes or e-cigs, they're far less harmful than cigarettes, and can help you quit smoking for good.

They are not recommended for non-smokers and cannot be sold to people under 18 years old.


 
They literally are.





That's the NHS. Not marketing.

I've never seen any of the major vape brands doing it.
 
That's the NHS. Not marketing.

I've never seen any of the major vape brands doing it.
And the Vapestore - 'one of the UK’s most popular online vape shops' - says:

12 E-Liquid Flavours to Help you Quit Smoking

What’s the right Vape Kit to help you Quit Smoking?

 
And the Vapestore - 'one of the UK’s most popular online vape shops' - says:




An online reseller (and not disposables). Are Smok doing it? Elf bar? Vapperso? ELeaf? Voopoo? Innokin?

These things might be used as stop smoking aids, but it's not what they are sold as. It's why when you go to Asda they are next to tobacco and not next to the nicotine patches.

Let's ban disposables for the sake of the planet. Let's make enforce the laws we have to stop kids buying these. But this "Won't someone think of the children" thing is daft. I assuming that you must have had your share of experiences before you were 18?
 
An online reseller (and not disposables). Are Smok doing it? Elf bar? Vapperso? ELeaf? Voopoo? Innokin?

These things might be used as stop smoking aids, but it's not what they are sold as. It's why when you go to Asda they are next to tobacco and not next to the nicotine patches.

Let's ban disposables for the sake of the planet. Let's make enforce the laws we have to stop kids buying these. But this "Won't someone think of the children" thing is daft. I assuming that you must have had your share of experiences before you were 18?
Literally 5 secs Googling:

ELF Bar can help smokers quit smoking in several ways. First, it provides a nicotine hit without the harmful chemicals found in tobacco smoke. Vaping is a safer alternative to smoking because it does not produce tar, carbon monoxide, and other harmful chemicals found in tobacco smoke.

Elf Bars are great for ex-smokers, or those looking to make the transition. The throat hit and MTL design mimic cigarettes. Elf Bar 600 vapes have three nicotine strengths: 20mg, 10mg and 0mg. Most smokers find comfort in the 20mg nicotine strength since you get about the same nicotine dosage as you do out of a cigarette.

I'm done now.
 
Literally 5 secs Googling:





I'm done now.

You posted another resellers link.

Vaping no doubt will come with harm, but it's no doubt better then smoking. The NHS agrees. One reason many people switch is it's enjoyable. You appear to want ban something that has proved possibly the most effective alternative to date.

Here is their website if it helps?

 
You posted another resellers link.

Vaping no doubt will come with harm, but it's no doubt better then smoking. The NHS agrees. One reason many people switch is it's enjoyable. You appear to want ban something that has proved possibly the most effective alternative to date.

Here is their website if it helps?

But that's just down to marketing and getting around advertising bans.
  1. Our marketing shall be directed towards those who are current users of cigarettes and should not be designed to encourage non-smokers to start using vaping products.
Twitter: Twitter prohibits the promotion of tobacco products, accessories, and brands globally. This includes All cigarettes, including alternatives which imitate the act of smoking. Twitter prohibits knowingly marketing or advertising the following products and services to minors: Tobacco products or accessories, including electronic cigarettes*(Please note that asterisked items are prohibited from advertising on Twitter overall.)

 
Too much negativity about vaping on here.... Its not just about quiting smoking tobacco...If people want to vape thats great, same as with any other drug - go for it - enjoy yourself. Parallel with alcohol: Ban pubs and off licences and lets have prescription only alcohol for those trying to quit drinking and add stale marmite flavouring to beer to stop people enjoying the taste.
 
Why do you need to? Pod vapes have existed for years and can be filled fine with a normal 10ml eliquid bottle.
Bottles seem to have a stupid design tho, no tapered end so there's always some left which seems daft, I end up lining them up upside down to get the last bits out which seems unnecessary.
 
Too much negativity about vaping on here.... Its not just about quiting smoking tobacco...If people want to vape thats great, same as with any other drug - go for it - enjoy yourself. Parallel with alcohol: Ban pubs and off licences and lets have prescription only alcohol for those trying to quit drinking and add stale marmite flavouring to beer to stop people enjoying the taste.
Yeh did think it sounded a lot like the alcopops thing with flavours. Have same laws for nicotine regardless of source, challenge 25 like booze. Penalties for selling to minors, same advertising bans.

People have mentioned advertising a lot and I've never actually seen any plus it seems to be banned? Sure there must be some I'm just not seeing so where is it all? Or is it shops? Make that the same as cigs too, covered and not viewable without asking.
 
People have mentioned advertising a lot and I've never actually seen any plus it seems to be banned? Sure there must be some I'm just not seeing so where is it all? Or is it shops? Make that the same as cigs too, covered and not viewable without asking.

The advertising ban covers TV, radio, newspapers, magazines and most online media including social media.

But, for some reason, vape ads are permitted on outdoor posters, shop windows, buses, flyers, direct mail and on cinema screens.
 
The advertising ban covers TV, radio, newspapers, magazines and most online media including social media.

But, for some reason, vape ads are permitted on outdoor posters, shop windows, buses, flyers, direct mail and on cinema screens.
Ah that'll be it, guessing we aren't zoned for the flyers and mailers for some reason, all that stuff goes straight in the bin or recycling anyway, loads of domino's and supermarket ones here mainly, cinema we have pre booked seats so turn up to miss the adverts anyway on the few times a year we go. Don't use the bus and towns mainly useful for the pharmacy. Certainly a lot of vape places about but I get mine online so ignore them.

Should be a blanket ban tho like other tobacco products.
 
Ah that'll be it, guessing we aren't zoned for the flyers and mailers for some reason, all that stuff goes straight in the bin or recycling anyway, loads of domino's and supermarket ones here mainly, cinema we have pre booked seats so turn up to miss the adverts anyway on the few times a year we go. Don't use the bus and towns mainly useful for the pharmacy. Certainly a lot of vape places about but I get mine online so ignore them.

Should be a blanket ban tho like other tobacco products.

I've had special offer flyers delivered at my place, I've also seen them handed out, outside at least a couple of vape stores in town, some of those stores cover their shop windows completely with promotional offers, I've also spotted ads on the sides & rear of buses.

I agree that it should be a blanket ban on advertising, including shop windows and instore too.
 
The advertising ban covers TV, radio, newspapers, magazines and most online media including social media.

But, for some reason, vape ads are permitted on outdoor posters, shop windows, buses, flyers, direct mail and on cinema screens.
There's also plenty of vape shops in the High Street and places openly selling vapes.
 
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