beesonthewhatnow
going deaf for a living
No it isn't ffs
Petition: ban disposable vapes
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MapWatcher
Currently visiting Earth from Rigel VII
Signed. If people want to vape then fine but disposable ones are just unnecessary.
newme
Giant in Pastyland now
Yeh this, reusable things in general should be promoted so why not vapes. 1.2m lithium batteries is horrendous. We also kind of need lithium too for a lot of useful things so thats a huge waste of it too.
ska invita
back on the other side
my (secondhand ) experience of proper vapes is they break down a lot, replacing coils and what not fucks up a lot....is there an idiots reliable, easy to maintain model anyone can recommend?
maomao
普費斯
Abstinence.
UnderOpenSky
baseline neural therapy
After years of using rebuildables and stuff I've switched to ones that take coils as I find them easier to use with less power. Currently using a Vaporesso Gen PT60. I get about a week out of a coil.
Wish I'd never started the dam things though.
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Smokeandsteam
Working Class First
I build my own coils and use an RTA. Zero waste.
Whilst I’m not a huge fan of disposables they are increasingly the gateway for those wishing to stop smoking. The issue is the lack of control over their sale. My own view is that the sale of any vaping product should be via licensed shops only and that the industry needs to do more to ensure recycling of them (via a trade back scheme or similar).
But government bans? Nah.
I get that some people don’t like cloud chucking vapers on the streets, but seriously, banning disposables because of a few knobheads would be ludicrous. A ban won’t stop China making them and it seems to me that effective regulation and an industry funded recycling programme would be far more effective. Education is also needed: there are cheaper and better (and more environmentally sustainable) vaping options out there
littlebabyjesus
one of Maxwell's demons
I'm amazed at how popular disposables are given that they are so much more expensive than non-disposables.
imo, when vaping first appeared, all advertising should immediately have been banned. Promoting it as some glamorous option that good looking people do should never have been allowed. It's not good for you, it's just less bad for you than smoking.
imo, when vaping first appeared, all advertising should immediately have been banned. Promoting it as some glamorous option that good looking people do should never have been allowed. It's not good for you, it's just less bad for you than smoking.
Smokeandsteam
Working Class First
They are more convenient but as you say they are significantly more expensive than other options. Again, the issue is education and information.
kittyP
Pluviophile
I would much rather a proper recycling scheme and every shop that sells them has to properly sign up to it.
But the recycling in general in this country is shit so I don't see them doing it.
I haven't had a cigarette for a month now and have a refillable vape pen but I wouldn't have even got this far unless I could try the single use ones first.
But I do also understand how terrible they are for the environment and the lithium being mined just getting chucked away rather than reused is awful.
I really don't know what is for the best.
But the recycling in general in this country is shit so I don't see them doing it.
I haven't had a cigarette for a month now and have a refillable vape pen but I wouldn't have even got this far unless I could try the single use ones first.
But I do also understand how terrible they are for the environment and the lithium being mined just getting chucked away rather than reused is awful.
I really don't know what is for the best.
Smokeandsteam
Working Class First
100%. In order to encourage people to stop smoking requires cessation devices that are simple to use. Once they are off the ciggies then they can explore other products.
Well done on packing in the cigs
kalmatthew
Lurker Extrodinaire
Even changing them so the battery was reusable and a "head" with a coil and the juice would be am improvement. This coupled with recycling is probably more realistic than switching people to the sort of pens when you replace your own coin and is the sort of thing regulation could encourage.
JimW
支那暗杀团
That's pretty much the situation here, online sales also banned. I get mine sent me by a bloke with a shop I contact via WeChat. Also no fruit flavours etc allowed, just baccy, tea and menthol IIRC. Though you do see some still.
littlebabyjesus
one of Maxwell's demons
Ironic that online sales are banned there. I buy mine online and all the parts are made in China.
JimW
支那暗杀团
No doubt all the kid-friendly disposables and bubble gum flavours too.
kittyP
Pluviophile
Thank you
I'm telling myself I haven't given up, as then I'll panic and really want a smoke, I'm "just vaping atm"
I have 2 very old aspire nx40 with aspire nautilus bit for putting your juice in. It uses nautilus x coils. I vape at a low smoke watts as I hate looking like an overworked steam train chugging away.
The coils last me 4 to 6 months and I go through about 150 to 200mg of juice a month.
Smokeandsteam
Working Class First
Thank you
I'm telling myself I haven't given up, as then I'll panic and really want a smoke, I'm "just vaping atm"
I was the same. If you find the cravings get really bad up your nicotine levels in your Eliquid. I started on 12mg when I packed up. I can also say once I got past two months it became loads easier
kittyP
Pluviophile
I'm on the max 20mg.
Throbbing Angel
this is no longer a place of honour
signed - ^^^this^^^
mx wcfc
Well-Known Member
I use an old Aspire Nautilus. It’s so old it’s a 5ml tank. That lasts me a day. Coils last 3 or 4 weeks. I vape high pg juice at 8w so no big steam clouds for me either. Very happy with my set up atm.
maomao
普費斯
There ate still tonnes of state run fag companies aren't there? That'll be why.
Vapes were taking off there when I was in China in 2011 but they'd gone out of fashion and they were all raving about some extra filter (clay?) that you were supposed to smoke fags through by 2013.
JimW
支那暗杀团
That's a good point but certainly the pre-ban messaging was all 'think about the children'. Which of course they would say. Also strength is limited to pretty low nicotine too.
emanymton
A cat politely sat on the flaming gardener.
There is a shop just opened near me that is a combination vape and sweet shop. I see no issue there at all.
UnderOpenSky
baseline neural therapy
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Well done. You've just invested a "pod". Or in fact pretty much all commercial vapes, outside a pretty niche section of rebuildables.
Well done. You've just invested a "pod". Or in fact pretty much all commercial vapes, outside a pretty niche section of rebuildables.
Right, and in making that statement, we should be clear that pretty much anything is less bad for you than smoking. Working with asbestos is less bad for you than smoking. Being less bad for you than smoking is no endorsement at all.
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