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People like Louis CK and Norm Macdonald and Joe Rogan and Nick Mullen and so on and so on...

He's not left-wing, he's libertarian. He doesn't give a fuck about anyone else. He's just for individual rights.

He's against the private prison system. He's pro healthcare for all. He's against factory farming. Those are just (off the top of my head) some opinions he holds which makes me think he does care at least as much as the average person.
 
If he was "left wing". Why would he even contemplate voting for Trump (or Biden, for that matter)?

You can only really vote of one or two in the U.S.. He explained Biden was too old to vote for. :hmm:

Look, he's obviously not Jeremy Corbyn but his politics are reasonable by U.S. standards (and not as bad as some Brits I know).
 
The case with LCK stands interesting comparison to Kevin Spacey (also yet to be convicted of any crime, and accused of non violent sexual assaults, although if we are splitting hairs, I’d agree they’re a bit more sinister). Like CK, Spacey’s crimes were an open secret in certain circles, and part of the wrongness in both cases is embedded in an industry that didn’t hold these powerful men to account on behalf of the most vulnerable among them.

There are two differences though. Spacey was a man at the absolute pinnacle of his profession, commanding Hollywood, the Golden Age of TV drama AND having turned around the artistic and commercial status of The Old Vic, earning many calls for an honourary knighthood... and I don’t think he will ever work again. There’s no feeling that he’s due a rehabilitation. He filmed-but-not-released work was either re-shot or abandoned. The star of The Usual Suspects, American Beauty and LA Confidential is over and out.

Louis CK was highly successful, though not as mainstream-famous outside America. Nevertheless he was immensely powerful and undoubtedly rich enough to retire from performance (and perhaps command huge sums as a top tier comedy writer, if his greed for the millionaire lifestyle was too strong). But he’s made it clear that he feels entitled to continue taking up limited space in the very industry his victims are also working to succeed in. In fact his recent work suggests that he’s planning to capitalise on the harm he did to others, by creating work that will better appeal to the alt-right shit-stains that think “the feminazis done him wrong”.

The other difference is the type of artist these men are. While Spacey was an actor, LCK is a stand up comedian whose work is at some level a communication of himself, his thoughts and feelings. I used to have enormous respect for Kevin Spacey. He might’ve been the finest American actor of his generation. You might say I had him on a pedestal. Yet despite never being himself on screen, I would never want to sit and watch a new Kevin Spacey film. It’s taking a while for me to want to watch his old ones. I have no idea how you can still enjoy and want to watch new work from CK, knowing what he did - because CK’s work is all about him. The sexually exploitative man who repeatedly abused his professional power to use those less powerful as a prop for his sexual gratification. If you know the bloke’s personality is dogshit, and you know all his new work is created from a position in which he knows that everyone in the audience knows he’s a cunt to women and don’t care... how can you support him? How can this new, real version of him, still be on your pedestal?
 
Joe Rogan certainly has a very diverse guest line up.

He’s not a scared little mouse hiding behind the curtains.
He's an idiot who enables and promotes the far-right- like you, which is why you make out that he's some kind of heroic pioneer, he's not.
 
spanglechick - what do you mean by 'non-violent sexual assault'? seems a contradiction in terms to me.
Assault is any unwanted physical contact (without legal mitigation). Spacey (iirc) would get into bed with sleeping / drunk young men and press against them / wait to see if they would have sex with him when they woke up.

edit - of course, when you’re not much more than a kid and you wake up in bed with one of the most powerful people you’ll ever meet, any “consent” is not given from a position of equality.
 
Anyone with such a huge listenership who gives a platform to Alex Jones, anti-vaxxers and other conspiraloons deserves to be ignored forever
 
Assault is any unwanted physical contact (without legal mitigation). Spacey (iirc) would get into bed with sleeping / drunk young men and press against them / wait to see if they would have sex with him when they woke up.
I would class that as violence, you don't have to hit people to assault them. you don't even have to touch them.
 
I’ve not seen a legal definition of assault that is non-physical.
Violent is not in itself a legal term. I know there are circles who use it to include verbal harassment, but I think it’s more commonly understood to mean physical force.
A threat or threatening behaviour can constitute assault in the UK. Dunno about US.
 
I’ve not seen a legal definition of assault that is non-physical.
Violent is not in itself a legal term. I know there are circles who use it to include verbal harassment, but I think it’s more commonly understood to mean physical force.
But from what you're saying, getting in bed with someone sleeping and pressing against them until they acquiesce is surely physical force? Esp if in you're a position of power and the victim sees no other way out.
 
Can it? Threatening words / behaviour a separate offence under the poa
Pls link to your authority
A lazy google finds this as the top find:
"As assault is where a person intentionally or recklessly uses unlawful force against someone else. Assaults are usually categorised by the injuries caused. Common assault, actual bodily harm (ABH) and grievous bodily harm (GBH) are all criminal offences and cover a range of injuries from bruises or scratches through to life threatening injuries.

However an assault can take place even if no force is used. If someone threatens to assault you, but there is no physical violence, then the threats alone could be enough for this to be considered an assault. If someone intentionally spits at you then this may also be an assault."
 
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