People like Louis CK and Norm Macdonald and Joe Rogan and Nick Mullen and so on and so on...

[krtek a houby]

I have never worked in showbiz but I have been around fashion people and what is allowed in that world is really disgusting. I like to think of myself as live and let live, but I think that there must be something ill about people who are prepared to get to the top level, it would not surprise me one bit if it turned out that Louis CK had let a bunch of men have sex with him to get his expensive TV show.

So, you're forgiving for hetero predators but homosexual ones are disgusting and ill.

 

[freakydave]

So, you're forgiving for hetero predators but homosexual ones are disgusting and ill.

No I forgive Kevin Spacey as well. I was saying that I don't think him being creepy with teenage boys at parties drunk or Louis being creepy with adult women drunk is a surprise at all.

 

[freakydave]

Wanking in front of two women you have trapped in your hotel room it’s not just weird sexual stuff. It is creepy, abusive behaviour. you are minimising it.

nobody told me that!

 

[krtek a houby]

nobody told me that!

Nobody's explained to you what's acceptable behaviour and what isn't?

 

[SheilaNaGig]

None of this makes sense.

Its either non-sense or it's a wind up.

 

[freakydave]

Nobody's explained to you what's acceptable behaviour and what isn't?

It was a joke, the guy is a fucking weirdo, nobody ever denied that

He did not commit a crime but he is a pretty scummy person, also a brilliant artist. I like Picasso too

And Will Smith

 

[krtek a houby]

It was a joke, the guy is a fucking weirdo, nobody ever denied that

He did not commit a crime but he is a pretty scummy person, also a brilliant artist. I like Picasso too

And Will Smith

I don't like you and I don't like your "jokes", either. Go to bed.

 

[freakydave]

good lad

 

[xenon]

Honestly I think half of your problem, here is you are looking for idols people to put on pedestals. You need to ditch that shit.Like

It was a joke, the guy is a fucking weirdo, nobody ever denied that

He did not commit a crime but he is a pretty scummy person, also a brilliant artist. I like Picasso too

And Will Smith

it pretty much is a crime. Try false imprisonment as well as probably some other sexual offence. At least in the UK.

 

[Orang Utan]

It was a joke, the guy is a fucking weirdo, nobody ever denied that

He did not commit a crime but he is a pretty scummy person, also a brilliant artist. I like Picasso too

And Will Smith

You keep saying he didn’t commit a crime but you know he did

 

[freakydave]

This is not something that is interesting to discuss, we are arguing about rumours and tabloidy shit. It is interesting to talk about what people think of their work, disagreeing over the Louis CK rumours is just a waste of time and energy.

 

[belboid]

The accusations would be thrown out of court. What he did is not a crime.

You are just wrong on this,

utter bullshit, you have no clue what you're talking about and are simply trying to excuse an abuser for shallow and pathetic reasons.

You're a bullshitter.

 

[Orang Utan]

This is not something that is interesting to discuss, we are arguing about rumours and tabloidy shit. It is interesting to talk about what people think of their work, disagreeing over the Louis CK rumours is just a waste of time and energy.

they're not rumours. he admitted his abuse.

 

[krtek a houby]

This is not something that is interesting to discuss, we are arguing about rumours and tabloidy shit. It is interesting to talk about what people think of their work, disagreeing over the Louis CK rumours is just a waste of time and energy.

Putting people on pedestals is a waste of time. Invariably, you're going to be disappointed.

Why place so much faith in them?

 

[paul mckenna]

Joe Rogan endorsed Bernie Sanders, the furthest left of all the Democrat nominees.

 

[Brainaddict]

Joe Rogan endorsed Bernie Sanders, the furthest left of all the Democrat nominees.

He can also nod along with Ben Shapiro as he demonises homeless people and denounces BLM protests.

 

[Orang Utan]

Joe Rogan endorsed Bernie Sanders, the furthest left of all the Democrat nominees.

That may be true, but that doesn’t change the shit he spouts and the guests he has on who are dangerous loons

 

[rutabowa]

Joe Rogan endorsed Bernie Sanders, the furthest left of all the Democrat nominees.

Why do you think that is of any relevance?

It's not about what his personal party political opinions are, that is very trivial; it is about how the work he produces functions in society.

 

[Marty1]

That may be true, but that doesn’t change the shit he spouts and the guests he has on who are dangerous loons

Well don’t watch it then.

Leave it to the billions of other people who tune in.

 

[Orang Utan]

Well don’t watch it then.

Leave it to the billions of other people who tune in.

that's not what it's about you idiot

 

[rutabowa]

Well don’t watch it then.

Leave it to the billions of other people who tune in.

We are having a discussion. Don't read if it triggers you.

 

[Clair De Lune]

Well don’t watch it then.

Leave it to the billions of other people who tune in.

Thats precisely what we're already doing butty.

 

[rutabowa]

Honestly it is so pathetic when people can't cope with a word of criticism against their beloved joe joe, or Jordan Peterson.... surely "robust debate" would be right up their street but apparently not.

 

[Johnny Vodka]

Why do you think that is of any relevance?

It's not about what his personal party political opinions are, that is very trivial; it is about how the work he produces functions in society.

There seems to be assumptions about how people consume his podcast. Anyone I know just listens to the guests they are interested in. I don't know anyone who has moved to the right from listening to Joe Rogan.

 

[Orang Utan]

There seems to be assumptions about how people consume his podcast. Anyone I know just listens to the guests they are interested in. I don't know anyone who has moved to the right from listening to Joe Rogan.

fucksake, here's you speaking for "billions" of listeners

 

[colacubes]

There seems to be assumptions about how people consume his podcast. Anyone I know just listens to the guests they are interested in. I don't know anyone who has moved to the right from listening to Joe Rogan.

Anecdata

 

[rutabowa]

I don't know anyone who has moved to the right from listening to Joe Rogan.

How many people do you know who listen, how closely are you tracking their politics over the years (and how are you tracking that), then divide that by at least 2 billion (apparently he has billions of listeners) and that is how accurate your study is out of 10.

 

[Marty1]

Joe Rogan endorsed Bernie Sanders, the furthest left of all the Democrat nominees.

So that makes Rogan a classical liberal?

Or an armchair anarchist?

 

[Johnny Vodka]

fucksake, here's you speaking for "billions" of listeners

No, just the friends/colleagues I know that listen. Not sure anyone has the time to listen to every JR podcast, so probably just listen to the guests they are interested in. I've only seen positive changes in people I know from listening to some of his guests. Do you know anyone that's moved to the right from listening to JR?

 

[rutabowa]

No, just the friends/colleagues I know that listen. Not sure anyone has the time to listen to every JR podcast, so probably just listen to the guests they are interested in. I've only seen positive changes in people I know from listening to some of his guests. Do you know anyone that's moved to the right from listening to JR?

I 100% know people who have moved very right WHILST listening to his stuff (and also other people in that podcast sphere). I obviously cant pin it directly on him as how would I know, but it is a frequent common denominator. Often people who used to be into raves and squat parties and hippy shit.