Pensioner arrested on suspicion of murder after a suspected burglar was stabbed to death.

[Sprocket.]

Fuck having a baseball bat, I have a fire extinguisher that will do the job better.

I’ve been hit with one of those too, don’t recommend it!

 

[agricola]

Yeah he bubbled himself up cos he’s a dick, his brief was a dick and Old Bill are cunts. Doesn’t change the fact that his shot in anger, not cos of threat. The Bloody Code no longer applies, thieves should not be killed for their crimes.

I never said that they should be. Even with an absurd, improbable defence his jury was 10-2; if he'd said that the burglaries had driven him to exhaustion and he just flipped he'd probably have got more than two people give him the benefit of the doubt.

 

[sealion]

Fuck having a baseball bat

Yeah, You don't get much swing in a hallway.

 

[maomao]

Ignoring your 'ad hom' which adds nothing to your argument

Lol. That's not an ad hom. Boil your head you ignorant Tory shitcunt is an ad hom.

 

[Grump]

The Tony Martin situation was very different, he shot the guy in the back as he was running away, beyond what is considered 'reasonable force' in protecting himself, in the eyes of the law.

I prefer to go with what is considered reasonable in the eyes of the community rather than 'the law'.

 

[bellaozzydog]

Nicely dehumanised. A 38 year old man, reduced to residential burglary, a crime that is distressing as fuck for the victim and results in very little gain for the perpetrator. Rather than rail against a system which produces that, you go for the result of that system. Speakyerbranes75.net


Corax’s racism and this. Place has gone to shit.

What a ridiculous position to hold. I can only presume your home where you and your family feel safest hasn't been burgled. It's a particularly personal crime that effects families negatively for a long time after the event.

Be upset about society but don't get on your high horse about visceral reactions/opinions on domestic burglars until you and your kids have come home to a trashed insecure house, your portable electronics and jewelry have gone west and some toerag has shit on your living room floor

 

[colacubes]

FFS. Of course they have to investigate and arrest him. The whole story in the media is mostly on the basis of the old fella’s account. Hopefully it’s true and he was just defending himself, in which case he’ll almost certainly get a minimal/no sentence, but nonetheless someone is dead. The dead bloke may be a wrong’un but let’s let other people decide that who have access to the actual evidence 78 year olds don’t get a pass on being investigated when someone dies.

 

[cupid_stunt]

Yeah, You don't get much swing in a hallway.

Well, you've seen my hallway, it's wider than the average, but yeah the fire extinguisher beside the inner front door would still trump a bat IMO.

 

[Sprocket.]

Well, you've seen my hallway, it's wider than the average, but yeah the fire extinguisher beside the inner front door would still trump a bat IMO.

You don’t swing it, you jab it blunt end into their face. Allegedly!

 

[xenon]

dailymail75.net

Oh come off it.

Celebrating the death of a burglar, let's talk generally. I'm not cool with that. But have fuck all sympathy for domestic burglars that come to harm carrying out their crimes.

 

[Wilf]

Needless to say, I know no details at all, but... given that we appear to be talking about 2 younger blokes, one of whom seemed to be armed, I'd struggle to think of any scenario under which the old guy gets charged (given the imbalance of strength/mobility). Just about the only scenario is if he dived in as they were on their way out of the door. That's not sub-judice stuff, I just can't of any likely scenario in such a case.

 

[xenon]

Oh god. please not the hardman weapon talk though.

Sad.

 

[DotCommunist]

your kids

so apparently anything involving them justifies going Full Neeson, no matter what. I've seen the films

 

[Wilf]

Be upset about society but don't get on your high horse about visceral reactions/opinions on domestic burglars until you and your kids have come home to a trashed insecure house, your portable electronics and jewelry have gone west and some toerag has shit on your living room floor

Burglars don't always shit on your floor you know.

 

[HoratioCuthbert]

so apparently anything involving them justifies going Full Neeson, no matter what. I've seen the films

Hahaha to be fair we are talking about stumbling upon strange men in yer hoose with little time to ask what it is they plan to do. Me on my own with MUH KID, well in all honesty I would probably freeze but I'd like to think full Neeson! I wish!

 

[bellaozzydog]

Burglars don't always shit on your floor you know.

It's a well known and documented phenomena. I've been burgled twice and on one occasion who ever did it had the decency to just piss on my kitchen lino

This "I'm gonna get a large blunt object and beat a burglar to death" is testosterone fuelled nonsense

Slam your bedroom door and call the police.

 

[HoratioCuthbert]

so apparently anything involving them justifies going Full Neeson, no matter what. I've seen the films

Or just some tricks with that wooden sort of mallet my mum had under her mattress that type of thing

 

[HoratioCuthbert]

It's a well known and documented phenomena. I've been burgled twice and on one occasion who ever did it had the decency to just piss on my kitchen lino

This "I'm gonna get a large blunt object and beat a burglar to death" is testosterone fuelled nonsense

Slam your bedroom door and call the police.

MULTI PHONE PRIVILEGE

 

[mauvais]

This "I'm gonna get a large blunt object and beat a burglar to death" is testosterone fuelled nonsense

Slam your bedroom door and call the police.

Bollocks to that. Ever called the police in a hurry? I have, a couple of times, and once they couldn't find the address on a map FFS.

Make some noise and hope they fuck off out of the house once they know you're there, then if they don't, either escape by any means necessary or take them on. Blocking yourself in a room is, at best, for fires, not burglars.

 

[cupid_stunt]

It's a well known and documented phenomena. I've been burgled twice and on one occasion who ever did it had the decency to just piss on my kitchen lino

This "I'm gonna get a large blunt object and beat a burglar to death" is testosterone fuelled nonsense

Slam your bedroom door and call the police.

So, a burglar has broken into your home, and you think they are incapable of opening a bedroom door?

No, sorry, I'll grab whatever is to hand to get them to fuck off.

BTW, no one has suggested beating a burglar to death with a blunt object, get over yourself.

 

[bellaozzydog]

So, a burglar has broken into your home, and you think they are incapable of opening a bedroom door?

No, sorry, I'll grab whatever is to hand to get them to fuck off.

BTW, no one has suggested beating a burglar to death with a blunt object, get over yourself.

Don't be a dick. Burglars run away when disturbed. I'd rather be behind a door with the police on the phone rather than Rambo ing it around the house half asleep, barefooted and probably with a semi piss boner on while waving some badly planned weaponry

 

[mauvais]

I've had cause to think about this at length, btw, but there are so many uncertainties and uncontrolled factors that honestly I have very little idea what I'd do if greeted with someone in the house. Contextual, reactive and inherently unplanned isn't it. I wouldn't rule out anything. However for me it's probably a different balance now to this time a year ago.

 

[MrSki]

If you really need an effective weapon by your bedside then a can of aerosol & a lighter is pretty impressive. I have lived in Brixton, King's Cross & Tottenham for about 25 years & whatever you keep under your bed does not stop a bullet. I live in leafy (soggy) Berkshire now but it could happen anywhere or not at all. Could you react to the threat or just shit yourself?

 

[cupid_stunt]

Don't be a dick. Burglars run away when disturbed. I'd rather be behind a door with the police on the phone rather than Rambo ing it around the house half asleep, barefooted and probably with a semi piss boner on while waving some badly planned weaponry

You're being a dick, some burglars run away when disturbed, not all, hence why there's so many cases of people being beaten up in their own homes when disturbing burglars.

Perhaps you would like to share you advice with the pensioner in my town, jut a couple of weeks ago, that was beaten black & blue by the burglars after her hidden cash.

There was no hidden cash.

 

[likesfish]

Except these tossers apprantly didn't usually unless its obviously ott you don't get punished for killing thieves in self defence.

this isnt the US where they will just shrugg and dragg the corpse away they will investigate

 

[Thimble Queen]

Burglars don't always shit on your floor you know.

 

[DotCommunist]

I'm all about the gun kata to get rid of burglars. You can also use it to get the dog to come in when you want to lock the back door and the cows out there digging again:

 

[scifisam]

I'm all about the gun kata to get rid of burglars. You can also use it to get the dog to come in when you want to lock the back door and the cows out there digging again:

Tsk, gun fu, not gun kata.

 

[sealion]

This "I'm gonna get a large blunt object and beat a burglar to death" is testosterone fuelled nonsense

I can speak from experience and it's not when you have some cunt ransacking your flat. I'm not sure beating the burglar to death comes into thought. I wouldn't be as violent on the street but when someone has violated my home i will treat fire with fire. Fuck waiting for the old bill not to turn up.

 

[existentialist]

It's being discussed across the internet, it's already 11 pages over on digitalspy, so I reckon we are safe to discuss it on here.

Not that it will ever end-up in front of a jury, but if it did, I think the BBC is more likely to prejudice them by including the following in the article linked above...



The police are just going through the motions here.

They have to. We really don't ever want to become the kind of society where Certain Kinds Of People can simply kill Certain Other Kinds of People with complete impunity. As you say, I imagine the police are dotting the i's and crossing the t's, to make sure this isn't anything other than Homeowner In Fear Of Life Stabs Burglar. But I do hope they're tipping him the wink along the way, and making it fairly clear to him that they're not really treating him as if he's the Third Kray Twin.