Pedestrian jailed for causing death of cyclist

[xenon]

A tragic case which lead to the cyclist veering into the road being hit by a car and dying.

Woman who caused cyclist to fall into road in Huntingdon jailed for manslaughter

Police say Auriol Grey's actions were "totally disproportionate" and caused the retired midwife's "untimely and needless death".

news.sky.com

"Grey, who has cerebral palsy and was described by her lawyer as "partially blind", was sentenced to three years after denying the manslaughter charge."

Did she even know it was a shared surface. In other reports the Police aren't even sure.

In what way is this in the public interest to procecute Grey. Never mind a custodial sentence. Completely fucking wrong.

 

[JimW]

Keep seeing drivers getting a couple of years suspended for death by dangerous driving which seems stark contrast with this case.

 

[maomao]

The real villains are the media's anti-cycling lo by who have turned up the hateful rhetoric so far everyone feels it's okay to abuse cyclists who are cycling perfectly reasonably and legally.

I felt the sentence was okay when I saw it yesterday but hadn't realised she was partially blind. That does change it slightly for me.

 

[beesonthewhatnow]

The real villains are the media's anti-cycling lo by who have turned up the hateful rhetoric so far everyone feels it's okay to abuse cyclists who are cycling perfectly reasonably and legally.

Yep, 100% this.

 

[redsquirrel]

Keep seeing drivers getting a couple of years suspended for death by dangerous driving which seems stark contrast with this case.

Yeah, this. Actions were needless but three years for an accident and when drivers hit/kill and get off with slaps on the wrist. Crazy

 

[weepiper]

She didn't just shout, she gesticulated fairly wildly too, and the cyclist was a lady in her 70s. Pretty horrible thing to happen but three years seems excessive in the circumstances and especially when you compare the kind of sentencing that happens to people that have killed cyclists with their car (fine... community service... etc). Disproportionate.

 

[Pickman's model]

so two cases, the soldier who killed aidan mcanespie gets 3 years suspended for manslaughter - this unfortunate woman gets three years inside. i can't help thinking the sentences should have been swapped round

 

[Sue]

Keep seeing drivers getting a couple of years suspended for death by dangerous driving which seems stark contrast with this case.

Like this recent example where a pedestrian was killed on a zebra crossing by a motorist. Who got a three-year driving ban and a 700 quid fine.

www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-nottinghamshire-64736064

 

[editor]

Like this recent example where a pedestrian was killed on a zebra crossing by a motorist. Who got a three-year driving ban and a 700 quid fine.

www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-nottinghamshire-64736064

That is disgusting. He killed someone through his reckless driving and he only gets a fucking ban?

 

[Artaxerxes]

Saw some woman pedestrian shout at a resting cyclist and insist they need a license the other day. She’d already let her dog chase another cyclist in pursuit of his dog for half a mile


Just need to ban people

 

[Pickman's model]

Like this recent example where a pedestrian was killed on a zebra crossing by a motorist. Who got a three-year driving ban and a 700 quid fine.

www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-nottinghamshire-64736064

that's where auriol grey went wrong, she should have been behind the wheel of a car

 

[ElizabethofYork]

that's where auriol grey went wrong, she should have been behind the wheel of a car

Yes - what a weird and disproportionate sentence.

 

[Bahnhof Strasse]

Like this recent example where a pedestrian was killed on a zebra crossing by a motorist. Who got a three-year driving ban and a 700 quid fine.

www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-nottinghamshire-64736064

There's endless similar examples here: Driving Standards

The main issue with the paltry punishments is the difficulty in prosecuting dangerous driving is so great the CPS go for careless in most cases. Cycling UK is asking that the definition of dangerous driving is any act that would be an immediate fail during the driving test, which would be far more suitable.

 

[Spymaster]

Ridiculous that she's been imprisoned and that she was ever prosecuted for manslaughter.

Hopefully the appeal will overturn this bollocks.

 

[Sue]

That is disgusting. He killed someone through his reckless driving and he only gets a fucking ban?

Yes and you'd think that killing someone on a pedestrian crossing would result in a harsher sentence too.

 

[xenon]

She didn't just shout, she gesticulated fairly wildly too, and the cyclist was a lady in her 70s. Pretty horrible thing to happen but three years seems excessive in the circumstances and especially when you compare the kind of sentencing that happens to people that have killed cyclists with their car (fine... community service... etc). Disproportionate.

True. I was a bit naughty with the thread title.

I wonder if the new Highway Code with it's hierarchical pedestrians - cyclists - motorists would have made much difference were it in effect at the time.

 

[xenon]

It's similar to the sort of thing I can imagine doing, Not the arm waving but the shouting at a cyclist / scooterist to get in the fucking road, if startled by one coming too close to me on the pavement.

 

[Pickman's model]

It's similar to the sort of thing I can imagine doing, Not the arm waving but the shouting at a cyclist / scooterist to get in the fucking road, if startled by one coming too close to me on the pavement.

speak softly and carry a big stick, as theodore roosevelt advised pedestrians

 

[xenon]

speak softly and carry a big stick, as theodore roosevelt advised pedestrians

Well I have one accounted for at least.

 

[weepiper]

It's similar to the sort of thing I can imagine doing, Not the arm waving but the shouting at a cyclist / scooterist to get in the fucking road, if startled by one coming too close to me on the pavement.

I'm not defending the imaginary speeding cyclist at the expense of the imaginary pedestrian on the pavement here but in this case a) it appears to have been a shared path where the cyclist was allowed to be, b) she sees the cyclist coming towards her in plenty of time not to be startled as the cyclist is not going very fast and c) you can see her deliberately choosing not to move across the pavement and make any space for the cyclist to pass, it's clearly a busy road so she must have been aware of the danger in forcing an oncoming elderly lady off the pavement and into the road.

 

[liquidindian]

A judge is going to look at someone up in court for running someone down on a zebra crossing and think, at least subconsciously, "that could be me." The same isn't going to be true of a woman shouting and waving at a cyclist in a way that puts her in danger. And that's reflected in the sentences.

 

[maomao]

A judge is going to look at someone up in court for running someone down on a zebra crossing and think, at least subconsciously, "that could be me." The same isn't going to be true of a woman shouting and waving at a cyclist in a way that puts her in danger. And that's reflected in the sentences.

It's funny that they never think 'that poor cunt crossing the road could've been me'.

 

[SpookyFrank]

That is disgusting. He killed someone through his reckless driving and he only gets a fucking ban?

Three years' ban is more than most killer drivers get. Usually it's one year.

 

[SpookyFrank]

Shoving someone into traffic though? Yeah, that's manslaughter.

 

[ElizabethofYork]

Shoving someone into traffic though? Yeah, that's manslaughter.

That's not what happened though, is it? There's no suggestion of shoving.

 

[Winot]

That's not what happened though, is it? There's no suggestion of shoving.

It looks from the video that the cyclist swerved to avoid being shoved.

 

[Spymaster]

Shoving someone into traffic though? Yeah, that's manslaughter.

She didn't touch her.

 

[emanymton]

3 Years for this insane, should never have even got to court.

 

[cupid_stunt]

Seeing the thread title, my first thought was poor Spymaster.

 

[emanymton]

I know this is really not the thread for just moaning about cyclists.

But I actually sae a cyclists the other day who stopped at the lights when it was green and then set of the moment it turned red. The really are just colour blind then!!