Nine Bob Note
Self-Isolating before it was fashionable
Pretty weak 'outcry.' MSN don't know how to Daily Mail.
Olympics 2024 - General Discussion
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Nine Bob Note
Self-Isolating before it was fashionable
Thursday...
Athletics begin, but nothing exciting. Rowing from 1015. Sailing from 1340. Canoeing 1630, I usually enjoy single people in tiny boats with oars, but I'm bored of it already. 1715 women's all round gymnastics. Swimming 1930 onwards. By god do I miss having the velodrome in the first week.
Athletics begin, but nothing exciting. Rowing from 1015. Sailing from 1340. Canoeing 1630, I usually enjoy single people in tiny boats with oars, but I'm bored of it already. 1715 women's all round gymnastics. Swimming 1930 onwards. By god do I miss having the velodrome in the first week.
spring-peeper
Well-Known Member
Well, the Canadian women's football team made it past the round robin stage. Canada is strong in women's soccer, and we expected a medal.
Then, tragedy set in. The assistance coach was caught flying a drone over Venezuela's team practice. Assistant coach was suspended for a year. But, worse than that, Team Canada was given a six point penalty.
In a round robin with three other teams and our first six points (first two wins) went to the penalty.
Canada appealed the ruling, but by then, the requested emails arrived. Canada, both men and women, have been to this drone thing for years. The players had nothing to do with it, but they were the one's punished.
We beat Columbia by one goal, but we made it!!!
I really don't want to think we are a bunch of cheaters, but the evidence shows we are.
Then, tragedy set in. The assistance coach was caught flying a drone over Venezuela's team practice. Assistant coach was suspended for a year. But, worse than that, Team Canada was given a six point penalty.
In a round robin with three other teams and our first six points (first two wins) went to the penalty.
Canada appealed the ruling, but by then, the requested emails arrived. Canada, both men and women, have been to this drone thing for years. The players had nothing to do with it, but they were the one's punished.
We beat Columbia by one goal, but we made it!!!
I really don't want to think we are a bunch of cheaters, but the evidence shows we are.
May Kasahara
take me to the feeling
Lol, Mr K and I have just been saying how boring the track cycling is compared to everything else
Truly the Olympics has something for everyone.
May Kasahara
take me to the feeling
A minor annoyance, perhaps, but why the random references to some women athletes' maternal status? Helen Glover was described in some coverage earlier as "Olympic gold medallist and mother of three", and now just seen on the BBC feed "Mathilda Hodgkins-Byrne, another mother". There must be loads of other competitors (men and women) with kids 
Either it's relevant for everyone or it isn't relevant, surely.
Either it's relevant for everyone or it isn't relevant, surely.
Steel Icarus
ersatz maven
Maybe it's a sort of hamfisted attempt to highlight that women despite the changes to the body while pregnant have "come back" to compete at the highest level. It's often referenced when Shelley-Ann Fraser-Price competes in the 100m.A minor annoyance, perhaps, but why the random references to some women athletes' maternal status? Helen Glover was described in some coverage earlier as "Olympic gold medallist and mother of three", and now just seen on the BBC feed "Mathilda Hodgkins-Byrne, another mother". There must be loads of other competitors (men and women) with kids
Skinny Ethel
Well-Known Member
A bronze in the rowing which is welcome.
May Kasahara
take me to the feeling
And in the tennis too, where it has been useful to highlight the lack of maternity pay and other support that hinders women's professional careers compared to men.
I feel a bit conflicted about it really - am all for celebrating the achievements of women and mothers (obvs) as historically things have been harder for us (particularly in sport due to the physical impact on bodies, as you say) and we have been more invisible/erased, but also sometimes feel uncomfortable with the perceived reduction of women to "mum/not mum".
QueenOfGoths
Fuck you Dave!
I was listening to that on the way home, so exciting!!
ruffneck23
front left
Just caught up with the Men's BMX freestyle final, incredible stuff..
Steel Icarus
ersatz maven
Poor commentary for the rowing, sounded like an attempt to be epic
Numbers
an ting!
Ditto. I liked BMX’ing growing up and was happy I was able to do a bunny hop.
hash tag
Books, not bombs
I wonder why Angela Carini pulled out mid fight; making a statement?
Boxer Khelif progresses after opponent abandons - Olympics boxing: Imane Khelif progresses after opponent abandons
Boxer Khelif progresses after opponent abandons - Olympics boxing: Imane Khelif progresses after opponent abandons
Elpenor
Dancing as fast as I can
I watched brief clips of the bmx yesterday and have no idea how they manage to do all those tricks. It’s definitely a sport for the brave and I am not in their number
GB men just beaten France in the hockey. The stadium didn’t seem full, which felt odd, perhaps France aren’t really a hockey country? Odd as I think Netherlands and Germany are
GB men just beaten France in the hockey. The stadium didn’t seem full, which felt odd, perhaps France aren’t really a hockey country? Odd as I think Netherlands and Germany are
hash tag
Books, not bombs
For young people who have no fear and who bounce back very easily.
WouldBe
Dislicksick
I thought they said on the roundup last night that the ref stopped the fight after she broke her nose.
littlebabyjesus
one of Maxwell's demons
It is really not that long ago that perceived wisdom had it that a woman will struggle to return to the top of her sporting form following motherhood. Medically, this is complete nonsense, and it was only ever based on prejudice rather than research, but there is still definitely some novelty to women returning to elite sport following motherhood. Hopefully this is a stage that we will get past.
Jimmy Don't
Well-Known Member
She'd been punched very hard in the face, looks likely she was scared of getting badly hurt. Whatever arguments around trans stuff people may have, allowing someone with the physical advantage of being born a man to fight a woman, is just madness.
belboid
Exasperated, not angry.
Khelif wasn't born a man, nor even assigned male at birth. They're a woman and have always been recognised as such.
Jimmy Don't
Well-Known Member
I read that they failed a test to prove eligibility for women's boxing previously? Will go and dig out where I read it.....
belboid
Exasperated, not angry.
Her testosterone levels were too high. That isn't being a man, or undergoing male puberty.
Jimmy Don't
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Olympics-Boxing-Algerian Khelif advances as Italy’s Carini abandons fight after 46 seconds
By Karolos Grohmann and Aadi Nair PARIS (Reuters) -Algerian Imane Khelif's much-hyped Paris Olympics welterweight fight against Angela Carini in the round of 16 lasted 46 seconds after the Italian had to stop following a powerful punch to the nose. Khe...
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"Khelif has been in the spotlight since being disqualified before a gold medal match at the 2023 World Championships for failing International Boxing Association (IBA) eligibility rules that prevent athletes with XY chromosomes competing in women’s events."
That's what I'd read.
belboid
Exasperated, not angry.
The IBA decision has been widely criticised and they didnt release their evidence. The IOC says it was due to testosterone. Either way, having an XY chromosome doesnt actually affect anything in itself, it is merely an indicator that something might need further checks.Olympics-Boxing-Algerian Khelif advances as Italy’s Carini abandons fight after 46 seconds
By Karolos Grohmann and Aadi Nair PARIS (Reuters) -Algerian Imane Khelif's much-hyped Paris Olympics welterweight fight against Angela Carini in the round of 16 lasted 46 seconds after the Italian had to stop following a powerful punch to the nose. Khe...
"Khelif has been in the spotlight since being disqualified before a gold medal match at the 2023 World Championships for failing International Boxing Association (IBA) eligibility rules that prevent athletes with XY chromosomes competing in women’s events."
That's what I'd read.
spellbinder
Well-Known Member
It's not fucking right. Anywhere else it would be called assault, in the Olympics it's called sport and yes this image isn't from Paris, I refuse to give publicity to that shambles.
Men DO NOT hit women, full stop! high testosterone levels , use your eyes ffs.
My personal opinion of course and I'm entitled to it like the sympathisers are to theirs.
Skinny Ethel
Well-Known Member
Does anyone know when the breakdancing starts? What day.
belboid
Exasperated, not angry.
not till next Friday
Jimmy Don't
Well-Known Member
Might need further checks is quite important when women are getting punched in the face.
Having watched it again, it's like different weight classes fighting each other. Forget who was born male/female, or what they identify as, the ruling body has a responsibility to keep participant's safe and didn't do it here.
That obviously leads to other questions about boxing generally
from Wiki:
In March 2023, Khelif was disqualified for failing to meet eligibility criteria shortly before her gold medal bout at the 2023 IBA Women's World Boxing Championships. The Algerian Olympic Committee said Khelif was disqualified for medical reasons. It later emerged that the disqualification was due to high levels of testosterone.[7][8] International Boxing Association president Umar Kremlev claimed that the DNA test results of Khelif and other athletes "proved they had XY chromosomes",[9] however, these supposed results were never published. From this, rumors have emerged that Kheliff is transgender or transsexual, but there is no evidence of this. In Algeria, the country that Kheliff represents, transgender identity is prohibited, changing gender or sex on identity documents is not permitted, nor are medical or hormonal treatments allowed to transition to another sex. Khelif made an appeal before the Court of Arbitration for Sport but later withdrew it,[3] making the IBA decision legally binding.[10] In 2024, the IBA said that Khelif and others "did not undergo a testosterone examination but were subject to a separate and recognised test, whereby the specifics remain confidential".[3]
The International Olympic Committee (IOC), using different rules to the IBA, cleared Khelif to compete in the 2024 Summer Olympics in Paris, confirming that she complied with all necessary eligibility and medical regulations for the event,[8][12] without detailing what these eligibility rules were.[10] The IOC noted that Khelif was a woman according to her passport and that this was not a "transgender issue".
so, she's not transgender. either just has high testosterone or is covering something up.
In March 2023, Khelif was disqualified for failing to meet eligibility criteria shortly before her gold medal bout at the 2023 IBA Women's World Boxing Championships. The Algerian Olympic Committee said Khelif was disqualified for medical reasons. It later emerged that the disqualification was due to high levels of testosterone.[7][8] International Boxing Association president Umar Kremlev claimed that the DNA test results of Khelif and other athletes "proved they had XY chromosomes",[9] however, these supposed results were never published. From this, rumors have emerged that Kheliff is transgender or transsexual, but there is no evidence of this. In Algeria, the country that Kheliff represents, transgender identity is prohibited, changing gender or sex on identity documents is not permitted, nor are medical or hormonal treatments allowed to transition to another sex. Khelif made an appeal before the Court of Arbitration for Sport but later withdrew it,[3] making the IBA decision legally binding.[10] In 2024, the IBA said that Khelif and others "did not undergo a testosterone examination but were subject to a separate and recognised test, whereby the specifics remain confidential".[3]
The International Olympic Committee (IOC), using different rules to the IBA, cleared Khelif to compete in the 2024 Summer Olympics in Paris, confirming that she complied with all necessary eligibility and medical regulations for the event,[8][12] without detailing what these eligibility rules were.[10] The IOC noted that Khelif was a woman according to her passport and that this was not a "transgender issue".
so, she's not transgender. either just has high testosterone or is covering something up.
Boo Radley75
Well-Known Member
I feel really sorry for Khelif. She's not transgender but a load of anti trans people are slagging her off, including the usual suspects. Maybe these people banging on with the "it's not fair!", Sharon Davis, JK Rowling etc would get listened to a bit more if they tried treating EVERYONE like a human being with basic respect.
Find it a bit disappointing that the BBC are still employing Sharon Davis in front of the camera, this Olympics, but then, the anti trans mob would just scream even louder if they didn't.
Find it a bit disappointing that the BBC are still employing Sharon Davis in front of the camera, this Olympics, but then, the anti trans mob would just scream even louder if they didn't.
