Newsnight propagandises interview with working single mum

[DaveCinzano]

Fraser was on 85 grand a year for that job 3 years ago.

Topped up to more than ninety grand!

His DoI makes interesting reading too - he seems to have forgotten to include his interest in a property development company..?

 

[DaveCinzano]

"Please don't ask how bent, nepotistic or 'in the club' our high-flying Newsnight talent is, it hurts our freedom of expression!"

FoI request response from the Beeb (I paraphrase).

 

[butchersapron]

Exactly what i got - they always say they're not obliged to reveal info about 'talent' - and they included in that the costs of hiring that election boat and stuffing food and drink down celebs night at our expense as well.

 

[cesare]

"Please don't ask how bent, nepotistic or 'in the club' our high-flying Newsnight talent is, it hurts our freedom of expression!"

FoI request response from the Beeb (I paraphrase).

So have you written to the IC?

 

[DaveCinzano]

So have you written to the IC?

String this one out first

Then it's dink-dink-dink time on every head above the parapet.

 

[cesare]

String this one out first

Then it's dink-dink-dink time on every head above the parapet.

Pushing them on the Public Interest Test?

 

[DaveCinzano]

That and the 'journalism, art and literature' get-out - since when did "I'm an artist, darling!" supersede appropriate and non-discriminatory recruitment? Auntie's Oxbridge grad hacks have certainly prowled around the (perceived) Spanish practices and pork barrel scrapings of other organisations.

 

[butchersapron]

They're legally watertight on this i'm afraid. It would have to be a battle of...morals!

 

[DaveCinzano]

It's not a question of whether or not they are legally watertight - it's about identifying the class enemy and making life as personally/professionally awkward, uncomfortable and complicated as possible, on the grounds that they can dish it but they can't take it.

 

[cesare]

It's not a question of whether or not they are legally watertight - it's about identifying the class enemy and making life as personally/professionally awkward, uncomfortable and complicated as possible, on the grounds that they can dish it but they can't take it.

Also, at some point there's always the hope (albeit perhaps vain) that a subversive employee will innocently release the info.

 

[butchersapron]

It's not a question of whether or not they are legally watertight - it's about identifying the class enemy and making life as personally/professionally awkward, uncomfortable and complicated as possible, on the grounds that they can dish it but they can't take it.

That's what i said.

 

[articul8]

latest reply

Further to my message of 11 July, I'm afraid I haven't yet been able to
come to a conclusion on your complaint because key people in BBC News
whom I need to consult with have been on leave. I shall be away myself
between 10 and 24 August, but I hope to be in a position to let you know
the outcome soon after my return.

Yours sincerely

Fraser Steel
Head of Editorial Complaints

Given that the original complaint was filed in June this is really shit.

 

[Pickman's model]

latest reply



Given that the original complaint was filed in June this is really shit.

Oh dear

They've realised you're an ineffectual complainant and so are fobbing you off with a load of auld shit secure in the knowledge you are such an invertabrate you'll do nothing to rock the boat

 

[articul8]

It's not like it's been sent to everyone or anything... (old school tie gets better results does it?)

 

[DaveCinzano]

Anyone care to estimate suspect list numbers for when Steel Towers inevitably gets knocked over whilst Fraser's on his hols?

 

[treelover]

sorry, don't understand any of that...

 

[treelover]

Oh dear

They've realised you're an ineffectual complainant and so are fobbing you off with a load of auld shit secure in the knowledge you are such an invertabrate you'll do nothing to rock the boat

this bitching is ridiculous, he complained and is persevering, good

 

[Pickman's model]

this bitching is ridiculous, he complained and is persevering, good

"endeavour to persevere"

 

[Pickman's model]

It's not like it's been sent to everyone or anything... (old school tie gets better results does it?)

truth hurts, don't it. you're a fucking useless complainant.

 

[articul8]

truth hurts, don't it. you're a fucking useless complainant.

Oh yeah, what should I have done then? Did they teach you at prep school?

 

[Pickman's model]

Oh yeah, what should I have done then? Did they teach you at prep school?

What you should have done was not to be fobbed off like a cunt with the ovious shite that 'there's no one in the office who can answer your question' like they'd let all the senior management all piss off together. Not only is this not rocket science, it is barely fucking multiplication. You've been played for the sucker you so clearly are.

 

[articul8]

Make a complaint about the complaints unit? All getting very Kafka... This is already the 3rd complaint made on the same issue already.

 

[Pickman's model]

Make a complaint about the complaints unit? All getting very Kafka... This is already the 3rd complaint made on the same issue already.

I've complained about the handling of a complaint before now, and i'm not the only one

 

[poisondwarf]

According to shanene's twitter, the formal apology will be on tonight's newsnight.

 

[JHE]

According to shanene's twitter, the formal apology will be on tonight's newsnight.

Yup, just been broadcast

 

[DaveCinzano]

About 44m45s into the 30/8/12 episode.

Basically it was all a mix up! But obviously the guys were happy to clarify that Shanene was imagining the whole thing.

 

[DaveCinzano]

Here's today's email from Fraser 'Man Of' Steel:

Dear Whingebag

We have now concluded our investigation into Shanene Thorpe’s complaint. I’m sorry this took longer than we initially led you to expect, which was because of the absence of key people on holiday, but I hope you’ll be pleased to know that we concluded that the nature and degree of unfairness to her was such that a broadcast correction and apology was appropriate, in addition to the online apology already posted by the Editor of Newsnight. Accordingly, last night’s edition of the programme included the following (with Ms Thorpe’s agreement):

And now for an apology. On 23 May during an item on welfare reform we broadcast an interview with Shanene Thorpe that unfairly created the mistaken impression that she was unemployed and wholly dependent on benefits, and suggested that she was living off the state as a lifestyle choice. She has asked us to make clear that she has been in work or in work-related education since leaving school. Shortly after the programme, we published an apology on our website for the unmerited embarrassment and any distress the item caused her. We are happy to make this broadcast apology as well.

Thank you for drawing your concerns to our attention.

Yours sincerely

Fraser Steel
Head of Editorial Complaints

So that's alright then.

 

[articul8]

No attempt to understand how the "mistaken impression" arose and what assumptions lay behind it

 

[butchersapron]

More to the point, it makes the same lazy question begging assumptions as the original piece of bullshit - it says that yes we were wrong this time but look at the millions of other feckless wasters were really are doing it:

that unfairly created the mistaken impression that she was unemployed and wholly dependent on benefits, and suggested that she was living off the state as a lifestyle choice.

Note also, this is from an organisation and from people whose entire institution and occupation lives off the state as a lifestyle choice.

 

[_angel_]

More to the point, it makes the same lazy question begging assumptions as the original piece of bullshit - it says that yes we were wrong this time but look at the millions of other feckless wasters were really are doing it:

Yet they couldn't find a single person who actually is one of these millions of scroungers.

Note also, this is from an organisation and from people whose entire institution and occupation lives off the state as a lifestyle choice.

Same as the politicians who are trying to convince us how bad that is.