New Labour government - legislative agenda

[Kid_Eternity]

Barely a month in power and resolved this.

Junior doctors’ leaders agree 22.3% pay deal over two years

Tens of thousands of members will now vote on offer that could bring long-running dispute to an end

www.theguardian.com

 

[Everything Goes]

Barely a month in power and resolved this.

Junior doctors’ leaders agree 22.3% pay deal over two years

Tens of thousands of members will now vote on offer that could bring long-running dispute to an end

www.theguardian.com

The Tories didn't want to negotiate, they just used it as a culture war. Good to see things settled in a short space of time.

 

[redsquirrel]

"Torsten Bell, the new Labour MP who used to run the Resolution Foundation thinktank and how is now parliamentary private secretary to Pat McFadden, the Cabinet Office minister, has posted this on X saying it would be wrong to describe what Rachel Reeves is announcing today as cuts to public spending."

Anything to add to the Guardian live feed?

 

[PR1Berske]

Anything to add to the Guardian live feed?

No. Just quoting it here to share it for people who might not have access to the source.

 

[Silas Loom]

Yep. And more to come, also expect fuel duty to be expanded to include EV (that’s a lucrative line of tax) in the coming years too…

You could make that argument for VED, but not really for fuel duty. Not without making net zero transition even tougher.

 

[cupid_stunt]

The Tories didn't want to negotiate, they just used it as a culture war. Good to see things settled in a short space of time.

And, it back fired, because for many voters the NHS was their main concern at the GE.

That's what I said to the Labour canvasser that I had, she said that was coming top with most people they were calling on, whereas normally it's the economy.

 

[tommers]

Yep. And more to come, also expect fuel duty to be expanded to include EV (that’s a lucrative line of tax) in the coming years too…

I meant that it was a pretty low amount in terms of taxes. It's not even on this graphic (well, it's under other taxes I guess).

 

[Smokeandsteam]

Anything to add to the Guardian live feed?

This place is increasingly a place of pasted tweets, Guardian shite and memes all posted without comment….

 

[Jeff Robinson]

Barely a month in power and resolved this.

Junior doctors’ leaders agree 22.3% pay deal over two years

Tens of thousands of members will now vote on offer that could bring long-running dispute to an end

www.theguardian.com

Vicky Pryce, chief economic adviser to the Centre for Economic and Business Research, told Sky News the government "probably can" afford a 22.3% pay hike for junior doctors as it is less than the 35% increase they have been demanding which was estimated at costing between £1bn and £2bn.

"If you look at the cost to the NHS and basically to taxpayers on all those appointments that didn't happen since December 2022, that has been added up to around £3bn anyway," she said.

Junior doctors offered 22% pay rise by government to end strike action

Doctors have been on strike 11 times since December 2022, demanding a 35% pay rise.

news.sky.com

Could there be a clearer argument for the fact that strikes work!

 

[Kid_Eternity]

Junior doctors offered 22% pay rise by government to end strike action

Doctors have been on strike 11 times since December 2022, demanding a 35% pay rise.

news.sky.com

Could there be a clearer argument for the fact that strikes work!

When you have a government that is actually prepared to negotiate then yes.

 

[Kid_Eternity]

You could make that argument for VED, but not really for fuel duty. Not without making net zero transition even tougher.

I think tax on EV's fuel tax is coming and what it'll be.

 

[Kid_Eternity]

The Tories didn't want to negotiate, they just used it as a culture war. Good to see things settled in a short space of time.

Exactly. Grown up government, finally.

 

[Pickman's model]

Exactly. Grown up government, finally.

maybe one day you'll make a comment worthy of an adult.

 

[Kid_Eternity]

I meant that it was a pretty low amount in terms of taxes. It's not even on this graphic (well, it's under other taxes I guess).

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Yeah I got that, was agreeing with you and expanding on the discussion about how to fill the £20b hole with a comment on fuel duty.

 

[Pickman's model]

This place is increasingly a place of pasted tweets, Guardian shite and memes all posted without comment….

tbh the tweets etc often better than anything the poster concerned might add off their own bat

 

[Elpenor]

No. Just quoting it here to share it for people who might not have access to the source.

Cheers; I don’t have internet access

 

[two sheds]

Yep. And more to come, also expect fuel duty to be expanded to include EV (that’s a lucrative line of tax) in the coming years too…

tax on fuel for EVs?

 

[belboid]

tax on fuel for EVs?

It is due to be some kind of pay per mile scheme, or other form of road pricing. It’s been well trailed and is due to come in next year.

Obviously only very silly person would call it a ‘fuel duty’ - as it isn’t.

 

[two sheds]

ta - that's indeed confusing

EVs are heavier and so cause more damage to roads (negligible compared to large trucks though) and give of more brake and tyre particulates. You'd think a 'road tax' might be more logical.

 

[Silas Loom]

It is due to be some kind of pay per mile scheme, or other form of road pricing. It’s been well trailed and is due to come in next year.

Obviously only very silly person would call it a ‘fuel duty’ - as it isn’t.

It can’t be coming in next year, surely - it’s a huge technical challenge and would be just as tricky to manage politically as it was when it was floated twenty years ago.

 

[cupid_stunt]

It is due to be some kind of pay per mile scheme, or other form of road pricing. It’s been well trailed and is due to come in next year.

I don't think there's any plans to bring it in next year, a google search agrees.

 

[PR1Berske]

Cheers; I don’t have internet access

Not everyone sees each and every update or each and every news story.

 

[Everything Goes]

Yep. And more to come, also expect fuel duty to be expanded to include EV (that’s a lucrative line of tax) in the coming years too…

VED (Road Tax) will be introduced to EVs from 2025. It was always unlikely that the free for all would continue.

2025 electric car tax - everything you need to know

Questions about taxing your electric vehicle? Find out all you need to know via our comprehensive guide with all jargon explained.

www.parkers.co.uk

 

[Chz]

ta - that's indeed confusing

EVs are heavier and so cause more damage to roads (negligible compared to large trucks though) and give of more brake and tyre particulates. You'd think a 'road tax' might be more logical.

Tyre yes, brake no. EVs have regenerative braking and under normal, non-emergency-stop conditions you can start and stop the car without even touching the brakes. If driven correctly. There's a huge variance. If you're the sort to wait until the last minute and then stomp on the brakes, yes your EV will give off more brake particles. But you'll also lose out on reserve power driving it that way. I'd expect most people will learn to drive using regenerative most of the time just for the little bit extra you get back into your battery.

 

[two sheds]

Tyre yes, brake no. EVs have regenerative braking and under normal, non-emergency-stop conditions you can start and stop the car without even touching the brakes. If driven correctly.

of course I added it as an afterthought but as a thought it wasn't very sensible.

 

[belboid]

It can’t be coming in next year, surely - it’s a huge technical challenge and would be just as tricky to manage politically as it was when it was floated twenty years ago.

The VED exemption is definitely going next year. There was hope/expectation thst wider reform would coincide with that, but it might well be too big a job to do that quickly.

 

[Silas Loom]

The VED exemption is definitely going next year. There was hope/expectation thst wider reform would coincide with that, but it might well be too big a job to do that quickly.

Time/distance/place road charging would take five years of consultation and arguing, three years to run a procurement, five years for a civil engineering plus IT services consortium to roll the GPS/APNR sensors and charging platform out, and another ten years to deal with some arsehole from Liberty or Big Brother Watch going all the way to the ECHR to whine about their journey details being stored on the cloud. Which is why all of this should have been kicked off in 1998.

 

[skyscraper101]

Reeves' speech is damning. Hunt looks pissed. I couldn't loathe the Tory party more.

 

[alex_]

The last decade or so has seen the A30 road widening progress further and further into Cornwall with the current scheme costing £330 million. From what I've heard from drivers the main result has been to move the bottleneck further down into Cornwall.

Isn’t that the whole idea ?

 

[Kid_Eternity]

Smart move on the tax avoidance.