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Ordinary Men : The Forgotten Holocaust.

Documentary looking at ordinary Germans... who massacred Jews.

The dynamics between the commanders and the ordinary men grouped into these killing units is described as friendly...not dictatorial. General Trapp ...their "Papa" instructs them and is visbly upset at the orders sent down to him. He gives the soldiers an opt out choice..with no potential repercussions. One man steps out and his captain starts to yell.. and then Trapp takes hjm under his protection and reitterates the choice. About a dozen more men step out and go over with Trapp..not wanting to kill anyone.

So these men and all killing units were all treated the same way. They all had that choice. Every one of them could walk away without repercussion...why didn't they?
why did so many go on to kill to order. Their job becomes the implementation of the Nazi cause. Grouped into battalions they are sent to Poland to interrogate and murder Jews. These are not SS. They are Mobile Killing Units. Programmed to kill. Honoured for their murders.
Some of the killers becomes traumatised and start refusing to kill. The gas chambers are then built.

Over 2 million Jews died face to face with their killers. Records were sent to Berlin giving a picture of who they killed and where.

Benjamin Ferencz investigated the murders. And he came accross death lists. He adds up what these groups reported. He wanted to put these SS on trial...and for his first case as a lawyer he becomes the prosecutor for the biggest murder crimes in the 20th century.
It's based on the Christopher R Browning book by the sound of it. IIRC It was pointed out in the book that not every unit was given this choice and so the choice made this a good unit to study. What motivated those who killed? Browning largely dismisses that it was primarily animus towards Jews that motivated the killings pointing to the viewpoints of the Police units home region. Instead he lays the blame at obedience to authority figures, making reference to the Milgram experiment, and a kind of loyalty to other members of the unit. There's a job to be done I'd better do my part instead of leaving it to my pals. I think I find that more troubling than it being down to antisemitism. Daniel Goldhagen also studied the unit for his book Hitler's Willing Executioners but came to opposite conclusions. Browning dedicated part of the edition I have, in an epilogue perhaps, challenging Goldhagen's interpretation. Definitely worth a read. I'll most likely check out the documentary.
 
Episode 6 is very good, and rather moving
for parts of it. Different vibe from the preceding ones and all the better for it.

It also has a very short cameo from an actor I hadn’t seen in anything since he played arguably the biggest evil cunt in TV history :D
You'll have to tell me about that as I think I missed it 😃

Have now finished the series (Sex Education for anyone who's lost track) and enjoyed it hugely. Thought most of the endings were apposite and particularly enjoyed Aimee's new direction.
 
You'll have to tell me about that as I think I missed it 😃

Have now finished the series (Sex Education for anyone who's lost track) and enjoyed it hugely. Thought most of the endings were apposite and particularly enjoyed Aimee's new direction.
It was Jack Gleeson, aka King Joffrey off Game of Thrones.
 
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The Wonderful Story of Henry Sugar


40 minutes of brilliance.

(Wonderful Story of Henry Sugar)


Watched this today. Absolutely Fantastic. Top Wes Anderson stuff, great actors, and a really interesting structure- delivering ( almost ) the full text to camera. Totally recommend.

The Swan was also good, not as brilliant as WSHS, but still good.
 
Enjoyed Live to 100 Secrets of the Blue Zones. Studying communities around the world who seem to have much higher life expectancy than normal and what they do differently. Lots of positive discussion of community, keeping active, being healthy. Nothing too earth shattering but well put together and some lovely people.
 
The Wonderful Story of Henry Sugar


40 minutes of brilliance.

(Wonderful Story of Henry Sugar)


Watched this today. Absolutely Fantastic. Top Wes Anderson stuff, great actors, and a really interesting structure- delivering ( almost ) the full text to camera. Totally recommend.

The Swan was also good, not as brilliant as WSHS, but still good.

I'm saving this til either Sunday when I'll have some time to myself without having to go out, or Mon/Tue if OH wants to watch it with me.
These comments are making me look forward to it.
 
(Wonderful Story of Henry Sugar)


Watched this today. Absolutely Fantastic. Top Wes Anderson stuff, great actors, and a really interesting structure- delivering ( almost ) the full text to camera. Totally recommend.

The Swan was also good, not as brilliant as WSHS, but still good.
Is it actually... different? The clip that Netflix plays to promote it is very "Oh, it's every other Wes Anderson film ever made. Again." I know he can make good films, but he can also turn out tired, trite shit that looks cute. FWIW, I think Budapest and Isle of Dogs are great, French Dispatch was crap, and Asteroid City was okay-ish.
 
Also has the benefit of being less than 40 minutes long, in a world where feature films are regularly now over 2 hours, at least in this case if you watch it and don't like it, it's not a big investment of time that you'll never get back.

(Personally, I love Wes Anderson's stuff, but the shortness of this should be appealing for those who are a bit on the fence about some of his work!)
 
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I watched Evil Dead Rise last night. I was really looking forward to it... I don't have any specific complaints; maybe I'm just going off ultra-extreme horror. Sad to say, but I think it's time to let the dead rest for good. (I thought the third series of Ash vs.. ran out of ideas too.) I was quite impressed there was some LCD Soundsystem on the soundtrack though. :cool:
 
First two episodes are very excellent.

Halfway through ep 2, watching with OH who said at the end of ep 1 "nice trailer, when's it going to start?" Ep 2 excellent so far, really starting to get going.

I think it's going to annoy people who get annoyed by Flanagan's lengthy dialogue exposition though :D
 
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