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I gave up on Luther. God it's shit. John Luther is one of the most unlikable characters ever, and his nemesis, Alice, is one of the worst written. Overblown caricatures, and by the end of the 2nd episode they're going for fucking coffee together. Fuck that shit.

Started House of Cards instead (US version) and it's great. Watched the first 3 episodes, and will try to pace myself with the rest. Frank's wife is thoroughly vile but I'm interested about this apparent crisis of conscience she may (or may not) be developing. The show has succeeded in making me start rooting for bald druggie guy (can't remember his name - Russo?), which most assuredly means he is destined for a spectacular fall. Not sure about the whole Zoe Barnes thing - it's a bit wish fulfillmenty (plucky young underdog at newspaper with no experience gets big break through sheer tenacity and becomes most important member of staff in 2 days). She's getting ahead of herself though, silly goose. Anyway, enjoying it lots.

I'm enjoying House of Cards too. Both Zoe Barnes and Russo's stories go in interesting directions.
 
Right here I am. 21st century at last. Tell me what I've been missing.

I had to choose 3 shows so they could recommend me stuff. Of the ones that were there I'd only seen one (that I'd want to have recommendations based on). Most of the contemporary shows I hadn't yet seen. So the teen just chose stuff. Is that important? (This has been silly question number one).

Watch Orphan Black. My mum is also a lefty scot from a Catholic background with a tiny wee telly who just got Netflix and she really likes it.
 
Watch Orphan Black. My mum is also a lefty scot from a Catholic background with a tiny wee telly who just got Netflix and she really likes it.
Cheers. I will.

I'm loving how people are starting to compare me with their parents and aunts and other elderly relatives. :D Makes me feel slightly patronised, but also accepted.
 
But not as much as the realisation that the bridge wasn't on the saucer! Outraged, I jettisoned the episode. The Enterprise bridge, in my mind - not sure how I know this - is in the centre top of the disc part. (I'm 30 years late in my outrage at this heresy, aren't I? :( ).

Now I fear Netflix thinks I like heretical sci fi. :(

The bridge IS where you thought it was. That's the Main Bridge on the Enterprise D.
There is a Battle Bridge also, which isn't on the saucer section. Is that what you were thinking of?

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I gave up on Luther. God it's shit. John Luther is one of the most unlikable characters ever, and his nemesis, Alice, is one of the worst written. Overblown caricatures, and by the end of the 2nd episode they're going for fucking coffee together. Fuck that shit.

Started House of Cards instead (US version) and it's great. Watched the first 3 episodes, and will try to pace myself with the rest. Frank's wife is thoroughly vile but I'm interested about this apparent crisis of conscience she may (or may not) be developing. The show has succeeded in making me start rooting for bald druggie guy (can't remember his name - Russo?), which most assuredly means he is destined for a spectacular fall. Not sure about the whole Zoe Barnes thing - it's a bit wish fulfillmenty (plucky young underdog at newspaper with no experience gets big break through sheer tenacity and becomes most important member of staff in 2 days). She's getting ahead of herself though, silly goose. Anyway, enjoying it lots.
first two series are great. Franks asides to the camera get to the point where he can just look at the camera and grimace and you know what he is thinking
 
Victoria....one shot German film. Watch it without subtitles as the main character speaks English and her experience is better appreciated if you don't have them on I think.
 
first two series are great. Franks asides to the camera get to the point where he can just look at the camera and grimace and you know what he is thinking

Does it go downhill in S3 then? That's a shame. I didn't realise they'd done 4 seasons of it until I started watching.

I watched another 2 episodes last night, so I think that makes 5 in total. Still enjoying it. Frank and all of his friends are thoroughly unpleasant people. I'm still rooting for Russo.
 
Does it go downhill in S3 then? That's a shame. I didn't realise they'd done 4 seasons of it until I started watching.

I watched another 2 episodes last night, so I think that makes 5 in total. Still enjoying it. Frank and all of his friends are thoroughly unpleasant people. I'm still rooting for Russo.
I'll spoiler this even though it vague
you know what frank wants, and when he gets it I lost interest
also: amorality fatigue.
 
That makes sense.

On the amorality thing, I read something ages ago about why we love sociopaths and psychopaths, relating to their over-representation in TV at the moment. A quick google suggests it's been written about quite a lot in the past couple of years. I have to say, it's rare I can tolerate these types of shows now, and they have to have something special to them for me to stay invested. House of Cards is pretty much balancing on the line for me, and I think it's the political setting that's keeping me from ditching it. I gave up on Breaking Bad after 1 episode: I read all these things about it being so fantastic chronicling Walter's descent into being an awful person but he was goddamned fucking awful in the first episode. I gave precisely no shits about the arsehole.

Why do we romanticise utterly contemptible characters? Specifically outright socio/psychopaths? There's a difference between showing someone's psychopathy and casting it in a wider context that actually makes it tragic or says something bigger about society or whatever, and something that simply has a psychopath at the helm who we all love because they're a psychopath. It seems like it's far more prevalent these days. I'm sure you could hash out something about 30 years of neoliberalism and you wouldn't be far off. So it's interesting, curious, and I suppose a bit of a warning sign or something.
 
I'm not sure they are that much more prevalent. It's fascinating watching people doing bad things. Hasn't this always been the case?
 
That makes sense.

On the amorality thing, I read something ages ago about why we love sociopaths and psychopaths, relating to their over-representation in TV at the moment. A quick google suggests it's been written about quite a lot in the past couple of years. I have to say, it's rare I can tolerate these types of shows now, and they have to have something special to them for me to stay invested. House of Cards is pretty much balancing on the line for me, and I think it's the political setting that's keeping me from ditching it. I gave up on Breaking Bad after 1 episode: I read all these things about it being so fantastic chronicling Walter's descent into being an awful person but he was goddamned fucking awful in the first episode. I gave precisely no shits about the arsehole.

Why do we romanticise utterly contemptible characters? Specifically outright socio/psychopaths? There's a difference between showing someone's psychopathy and casting it in a wider context that actually makes it tragic or says something bigger about society or whatever, and something that simply has a psychopath at the helm who we all love because they're a psychopath. It seems like it's far more prevalent these days. I'm sure you could hash out something about 30 years of neoliberalism and you wouldn't be far off. So it's interesting, curious, and I suppose a bit of a warning sign or something.
I've had this on the 'half forgotten' pile to seek an epub but you have reminded me of this.

Why We Love Sociopaths: A Guide To Late Capitalist Television
it was recc'd to me by someone on here donkeys ago and I have yet to purchase it
 
... I gave up on Breaking Bad after 1 episode: I read all these things about it being so fantastic chronicling Walter's descent into being an awful person but he was goddamned fucking awful in the first episode. I gave precisely no shits about the arsehole...

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a/ because at least they're not boring like the rest of us (Trump voter logic)
b/ because they're not burdened with ordinary human responses to doing terrible things (guilt, apologising) so they're more unpredictable, which is gold for writers
c/ because it makes it SEEM like writers are not just falling into the same old good guy-bad guy tropes
d/ because you the viewer get to indulge your basest instincts yet still feel smug and superior.

Same as it ever was really...
 
I've had this on the 'half forgotten' pile to seek an epub but you have reminded me of this.

Why We Love Sociopaths: A Guide To Late Capitalist Television
it was recc'd to me by someone on here donkeys ago and I have yet to purchase it

It might have been that the thing I read was a review of that book actually. Maybe it was me who recommended it, lol, and entirely forgot that it existed immediately afterwards. Thanks!

Edit: looks like Zero Books do some pretty interesting stuff: Zero Books Books
 
I gave up on Breaking Bad after 1 episode: I read all these things about it being so fantastic chronicling Walter's descent into being an awful person but he was goddamned fucking awful in the first episode. I gave precisely no shits about the arsehole.
I can tell you exactly when I bailed on that. Where the line was crossed from walter white, the good man out of time and place desperate to make things financially secure before the cancer offed him. Its when he watched his co-meth cookers goth gf choke on her own vomit. Yet weirdly I managed all of Sons of Anarchy, because the people getting drowned in a bath of piss deserved it.

there is SoA on netflix, not sure if all of it.
 
I can tell you exactly when I bailed on that. Where the line was crossed from walter white, the good man out of time and place desperate to make things financially secure before the cancer offed him. Its when he watched his co-meth cookers goth gf choke on her own vomit. Yet weirdly I managed all of Sons of Anarchy, because the people getting drowned in a bath of piss deserved it.

there is SoA on netflix, not sure if all of it.

I bailed on SoA twice - the silly "Irish" escapade and then the horrible prison murder. I still intend to catch up, if only for Walton Goggins.

I also bailed on The Shield not long after the Shane/Lem thing which was equally horrible. But I wanted to see what happens, so I watched it to the bitter, bitter end. Which was kind of good, actually.
 
I can tell you exactly when I bailed on that. Where the line was crossed from walter white, the good man out of time and place desperate to make things financially secure before the cancer offed him. Its when he watched his co-meth cookers goth gf choke on her own vomit. Yet weirdly I managed all of Sons of Anarchy, because the people getting drowned in a bath of piss deserved it.

there is SoA on netflix, not sure if all of it.

Sons of Anarchy is on my watchlist. Worth the time investment? Haven't started it yet.
 
I like watching horrible things. It's cathartic as well as thrilling.
May have to give Sons Of Anarchy another go.
 
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