Nazi Concentration Camps

[ymu]

It's all about water in Israel too.

But apparently we now have to rank the world's conflicts and are only allowed discuss the one at the top of the list.

 

[Johnny Canuck3]

It's all about water in Israel too.

But apparently we now have to rank the world's conflicts and are only allowed discuss the one at the top of the list.

...and this thread is about the Second World War, and specifically about the Nazi death camps.

 

[Urbanblues]

I remember a teacher talking about the genocide against the Ibo in Nigeria, years ago. He couldn't understand what the problem was, because all the parties to the dispute were black.

I can't understand what the problem is between Israel and Palestine, they're all Semites, innit?

 

[Streathamite]

Exactly. That's why I fight so hard against the young revisionists on this board.

no you don't, you lying toerag! you fight to present your own, highly-spun, quasi-zionist version of history, in itself 50% porkers or truth-twisting

 

[ViolentPanda]

...and this thread is about the Second World War, and specifically about the Nazi death camps.

No, the thread is titled "Nazi concentration camps".

A death camp isn't the same thing as a concentration camp.

Accidental conflation shows ignorance, deliberate conflation shows perfidy.

Are you ignorant or perfidious, Johnny?

 

[TomUS]

I understand that Isreal and the Arab states could have made peace by now, proposals were made and remain on offer, but certain interests need the belligerence to continue, it serves their interests to have Isreal as an attack dog and armaments consumer. In addition to that, it's not exactly consistant to have a nation that fashions itself as a democracy AND an ethnostate at the same time, it's abit like a BNP British state seeing itself as a democracy even though it has a ten-percent black and Asian population. Contents will not really be what it sez on the tin. Not sayin the Isreali jews are like nazi's (some of them are apparently) just that there is an inconsistency there.

There is indeed an inconsistancy in trying to be a democracy & a Jewish state at the same time. I also dislike the way Israel treats the Palestinians & has so far refused to seriously negotiate to permit a Palestinian state. What I object to is the extreme language accusing Israel of fascism, genocide etc. It paints a nice simple black/white picture of good guys-bad guys & the situation is far more complex than that.

 

[TomUS]

Now, as to the thread topic- There must be something in the German character that would permit such barbarity to happen. My dad's side of the family was of German ancestory & while growing up I thought "Jew" was a cuss word because of the context in which it was used. Although Jews have been opressed & slaughtered in most every culture they have lived in throughout the centuries, Germany took it to a higher level than ever.

 

[Johnny Canuck3]

no you don't, you lying toerag! you fight to present your own, highly-spun, quasi-zionist version of history, in itself 50% porkers or truth-twisting

Keep up the good work: I won't let you get away with it.

 

[Blagsta]

Now, as to the thread topic- There must be something in the German character that would permit such barbarity to happen. My dad's side of the family was of German ancestory & while growing up I thought "Jew" was a cuss word because of the context in which it was used. Although Jews have been opressed & slaughtered in most every culture they have lived in throughout the centuries, Germany took it to a higher level than ever.

urgh

 

[ViolentPanda]

Now, as to the thread topic- There must be something in the German character that would permit such barbarity to happen. My dad's side of the family was of German ancestory & while growing up I thought "Jew" was a cuss word because of the context in which it was used. Although Jews have been opressed & slaughtered in most every culture they have lived in throughout the centuries, Germany took it to a higher level than ever.

Read a bit of history and find out about "the German character".

Then do some reading on Russia and find out whether your "higher level than ever" claim is anywhere near accurate.

 

[Johnny Canuck3]

No, the thread is titled "Nazi concentration camps".

A death camp isn't the same thing as a concentration camp.

Accidental conflation shows ignorance, deliberate conflation shows perfidy.

Are you ignorant or perfidious, Johnny?

Have you watched the film included in the OP? If so, you'll know that the filmmakers differentiate between concentration camps and prison camps.

 

[ViolentPanda]

Have you watched the film included in the OP? If so, you'll know that the filmmakers differentiate between concentration camps and prison camps.

You mean like I differentiated between death camps and concentration camps, while you conflated them?

BTW, I don't have broadband, so can't watch films online.

 

[Johnny Canuck3]

You mean like I differentiated between death camps and concentration camps, while you conflated them?

BTW, I don't have broadband, so can't watch films online.

That's too bad. If you did, it might help you gain some understanding of why your co religionists wanted to have their own country somewhere outside of Europe.

 

[Johnny Canuck3]

It's interesting watching that film. Nowadays, we're pretty used to seeing heaps of black corpses, or dark skinned people emaciated and starving. In the film, you see stacks of white corpses; corpses with flies in the mouths, partially burned corpses.

I know that the Second World War had its origin in the First, but it's hard to fathom what it was that precipitated the things you see in that film.

 

[Johnny Canuck3]

They go through a bunch of camps. They've just gotten to Dachau, which they refer to as a concentration camp.

 

[Johnny Canuck3]

It helps you understand why a whole generation grew up with a hostility toward Germans. When you watch that movie, you remember that they were just like the Hutu in Rwanda, but with better equipment.

 

[Johnny Canuck3]

Now they're at Bergen Belsen, also called a concentration camp.

 

[Johnny Canuck3]

I didn't realize that at Bergen Belsen, the prisoners would cut out the livers of the dead, for something to eat.

 

[Johnny Canuck3]

edit

 

[Johnny Canuck3]

Now that was depressing. Man's inhumanity to man and all that.

 

[Spion]

Now that was depressing. Man's inhumanity to man and all that.

Indeed. It's a pity we have no film footage of the nakba that might help right wrongs, the powder-keg consequences of which we still live with today

 

[Johnny Canuck3]

Indeed. It's a pity we have no film footage of the nakba that might help right wrongs, the powder-keg consequences of which we still live with today

Oh, fuck off.

 

[Spion]

Oh, fuck off.

Nice guy. Only interested in victims of oppression if they suit your narrow prejudices, huh?

 

[Yuwipi Woman]

This thread reminds me of why I rarely post in P&P any more.

 

[frogwoman]

indeed

 

[Spion]

Do explain, rather than perform a little flouncette

 

[Streathamite]

That's too bad. If you did, it might help you gain some understanding of why your co religionists wanted to have their own country somewhere outside of Europe.

he understands that perfectly well, he just sees all too well something you turn a blind eye to; the moral and political problems when they choose a country that already belongs to someone else

 

[invisibleplanet]

Oh, fuck off.

What a banal and ignorant attitude.

 

[Spion]

What a banal and ignorant attitude.

That's Johnny all over. A shallow and ignorant shill

 

[Yuwipi Woman]

Do explain, rather than perform a little flouncette

The posturing. The intellectual disengenuiness (on more than one side). The little testosterone flourishes. Its like cleaning the boys showers after a football game.