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can't find transfers for the era though. Got them for BR by mistake and now realised they are wrong on checking them. I think i can use PLV transfers but not 100% sure
 
Get an acrylic pin wash in there, it will highlight the detail nicely, make the planks look like planks.

I've only ever done oil pin wash on top of acrylics so have a google and see what you can do on top of enamels.

Essentially you need to do spirits on acrylics or acrylics on spirits or you'll end up with a sludgy mess. If that makes sense.
 
spitfire said:
Get an acrylic pin wash in there, it will highlight the detail nicely, make the planks look like planks.

I've only ever done oil pin wash on top of acrylics so have a google and see what you can do on top of enamels.

Essentially you need to do spirits on acrylics or acrylics on spirits or you'll end up with a sludgy mess. If that makes sense.
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Yeah, I'm gonna give some of those things a try. First i need to gloss varnish and add transfers then matt varnish. That will be an airbrush job so i need to get a proper respirator mask and a booth first. Im sure pin wash will work with enamel and thinners. i can also airbrush various 'dirt' colours after that. Gonna take a long time to do each stage!
 
Mumbles274 said:
Yeah, I'm gonna give some of those things a try. First i need to gloss varnish and add transfers then matt varnish. That will be an airbrush job so i need to get a proper respirator mask and a booth first. Im sure pin wash will work with enamel and thinners. i can also airbrush various 'dirt' colours after that. Gonna take a long time to do each stage!
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I use this for matt varnish: Testors Sprays 85ml - Dullcote # 1260

It's the bollox, no airbrush cleaning required afterwards. :thumbs:

I strongly recommend oils for pin washes if you are not going straight on the enamel finish. (They're both petro based so will mix.)

Oils are so usable it's crazy, you can leave them for days and keep messing about with them. They're a revelation.

For dirt, off the shelf clay based washes are unbeatable for ease of use and results. You can also do pin washes with them if you so desire.
 
Mumbles274 said:
Is there a gloss version of that varnish?
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Probably but I use this: 4oz Aqua Gloss Klear Kote Varnish

Some people use Pledge/Klear floor polish. Not for me but it may work for you on your rolling stock. pledge floor care for models - Google Search

To venture further into the rabbit hole you can start using products like this which will give you a super smooth finish using acrylics, no need for an additional gloss coat: Mr Hobby 400ml Mr Color Levelling Thinner # 108 However it only works on certain acrylics, mainly the japanese ones, Tamiya, Mr Color. Don't use it on the Spanish ones, Vallejo, AK Interactive as they turn into jelly. Vallejo is shit anyway.
 
Very Nice Mumbles274 !

It is good to see a few "Southern" items - oop norf the concentration is on NER / LNER and "mineral / industrial" , nationally there are quite a few GWR based layouts. I must look at the invite list for Warley for the past few years and try to find out for this year. I last went in 2014 ...

ps operationally, I think the pattern was to have the guard's section at the extreme outer ends of the rake. Certainly I have seen some contemporary images of the North Staffs "loop line" - ie commuter - stock, and they are formatted in that way, sometimes with extra carriage(s) next to the loco.
 
StoneRoad said:
Very Nice Mumbles274 !



ps operationally, I think the pattern was to have the guard's section at the extreme outer ends of the rake. Certainly I have seen some contemporary images of the North Staffs "loop line" - ie commuter - stock, and they are formatted in that way, sometimes with extra carriage(s) next to the loco.
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I don't have much of a clue, can you explain? Are some of my carriages the wrong way round? :D
 
Mumbles274 said:
I don't have much of a clue, can you explain? Are some of my carriages the wrong way round? :D
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No - looks fine - there was almost a sort of obsession on passenger trains that there would be a brake compartment at the end of every train - tricky if you had a single car railmotor , partly to give the guard a good look along the train when despatching , - but partly to reduce casualties (bar the guard) , in the event of a collision at the rear...

There was a rear end collision at Welwyn Garden City between a fast overnight sleeper train and a local train - (1950's) - the only death was some poor local - who was supposedly having a crap in the rearmost coach - which had a toilet right at the very back of the train - the set was "miss marshalled" from Hitchin and should have had a brake compo at the end. For years there was almost a sense of black humour about this from local railway staff about always going at home , before getting the train and reducing the risk of a premature end....
 
Mumbles274 said:
I don't have much of a clue, can you explain? Are some of my carriages the wrong way round? :D
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Think it would have been more usual - as davesgcr says, to keep the guard's / brake compartment at the outer end of each end of the train, like so

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(from this site)

as well as safety considerations, it also made life easier for station staff if they could expect the guard to be working from the back of the train even if there was more than one brake vehicle, so they could take trolley/s with mail and parcels to the back of the train rather than be looking for the right van once the train had stopped.

hence the 'Hampshire' units which introduced a single van in a 3 car unit to the southern getting a V (or later a triangle) painted on the end with the van.

and of course guards had responsibility for protecting the rear of the train with detonators in the event of an incident, so being at the back of the train was probably best for that too.

i seem to think the rules changed on the southern in the 70s so that guards no longer had to travel in the rearmost van on a multiple unit train - the later principle being it was safer to despatch from the middle rather than one end of a 12 coach train.

but it's generally fair to say you can rarely say that "this would never have happened"...
 
The other benefit of brake van at both ends is that when the loco runs round at the end of a branch line, there is still a brake at the rear when the train goes back the way it came ...

The image Puddy_Tat has found is exactly what I was visualising.
 
Modelling water is really difficult as it just doesn't scale well, even when still.
[Nearly as bad as explosions ... (guess which old TV series I have been watching ?)]
However, some do get very good results.
 
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