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Missing Milly Dowler's voicemail "hacked by News of the World"

She is the 11th Sun journalist to be arrested since last November. According to her profile on the Sun's website, Wheeler is the Sun's first female defence editor.

Thursday's arrest was made under the Prevention of Corruption Act 1906 and aiding and abetting misconduct in a public office (contrary to common law) and conspiracy in relation to both offences.

In a statement, the Met Police said that: "The operation is the result of information provided to police by News Corporation's management standards committee."
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http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2012/mar/01/met-arrests-32-year-old-woman
 
Teaboy said:
Or he's saying that he didnt think phone hacking was that bigger a deal, illegal yes but way down the scale, he had far more important things to be getting on with. Its a line he's used throughout and one that I've heard from other coppers. They did an investigation, they caught the man, he got punished, now off to do some proper policing.

tbf its a line which could have had some credability if it was just about celebs secrest being revealed, however given everything that has come out he now looks like a complete mug or worse.
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Not that it is an argument that they have ever advanced, and I apologise for repeating myself from earlier in the thread, but it is perhaps the case that the Met looked at the scale of this, realised what would be involved in terms of taking it on properly (as we are seeing now, its more than a hundred experienced officers working on a lengthy and complex enquiry), noted who they would be going up against - Murdoch, the various members of the political class (none of whom had any reason in 2004-6 to actually oppose Rupert), most of the rest of the media who were to a greater or lesser extent up to much the same thing as the NI papers - and the lawyers that all of those would take on, and remembered how little the previous trials into press malpractice (Motorman and the trial in Devon) had managed to achieve, and decided that it was not worth all the bother when the likely outcome (at least then) was to attract a considerable amount of grief for no likely reward.
 
agricola said:
Not that it is an argument that they have ever advanced, and I apologise for repeating myself from earlier in the thread, but it is perhaps the case that the Met looked at the scale of this, realised what would be involved in terms of taking it on properly (as we are seeing now, its more than a hundred experienced officers working on a lengthy and complex enquiry), noted who they would be going up against - Murdoch, the various members of the political class (none of whom had any reason in 2004-6 to actually oppose Rupert), most of the rest of the media who were to a greater or lesser extent up to much the same thing as the NI papers - and the lawyers that all of those would take on, and remembered how little the previous trials into press malpractice (Motorman and the trial in Devon) had managed to achieve, and decided that it was not worth all the bother when the likely outcome (at least then) was to attract a considerable amount of grief for no likely reward.
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Oh come one - Murdoch and the met were in each other pockets right up to the highest level.
 
two sheds said:
I think you'll find the NI people were armed with rolled up newspapers :eek: that makes it a health & safety issue.
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I think it was the Guardian piece that says the police were obstructed by photographers. I was under the impression that photographing police officers is a terrorism offence nowadays, no? They'll arrest foreign tourists and minors for it, but not a bunch of papparazzi..?
 
Kaka Tim said:
Oh come one - Murdoch and the met were in each other pockets right up to the highest level.
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Perhaps - certainly the apparent inaction when two of their own officers were being stalked by the paper suggests something was deeply wrong - but it is surely too simplistic to suggest that they did nothing.
 
contadino said:
I think it was the Guardian piece that says the police were obstructed by photographers. I was under the impression that photographing police officers is a terrorism offence nowadays, no? They'll arrest foreign tourists and minors for it, but not a bunch of papparazzi..?
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No it is NOT an offence to photograph police officers although some of them would like to persuade amateur photographers that this is the case. Please don't spread this impression around because it helps them to be bully boys.
 
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agricola said:
Not that it is an argument that they have ever advanced, and I apologise for repeating myself from earlier in the thread, but it is perhaps the case that the Met looked at the scale of this, realised what would be involved in terms of taking it on properly (as we are seeing now, its more than a hundred experienced officers working on a lengthy and complex enquiry), noted who they would be going up against - Murdoch, the various members of the political class (none of whom had any reason in 2004-6 to actually oppose Rupert), most of the rest of the media who were to a greater or lesser extent up to much the same thing as the NI papers - and the lawyers that all of those would take on, and remembered how little the previous trials into press malpractice (Motorman and the trial in Devon) had managed to achieve, and decided that it was not worth all the bother when the likely outcome (at least then) was to attract a considerable amount of grief for no likely reward.
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The inquiry needs to see the minutes of that meeting.
 
agricola said:
Not that it is an argument that they have ever advanced, and I apologise for repeating myself from earlier in the thread, but it is perhaps the case that the Met looked at the scale of this, realised what would be involved in terms of taking it on properly (as we are seeing now, its more than a hundred experienced officers working on a lengthy and complex enquiry), noted who they would be going up against - Murdoch, the various members of the political class (none of whom had any reason in 2004-6 to actually oppose Rupert), most of the rest of the media who were to a greater or lesser extent up to much the same thing as the NI papers - and the lawyers that all of those would take on, and remembered how little the previous trials into press malpractice (Motorman and the trial in Devon) had managed to achieve, and decided that it was not worth all the bother when the likely outcome (at least then) was to attract a considerable amount of grief for no likely reward.
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This actually does make sense as one potential reason for not doing anything.

On the other hand, it's pretty clear that there also was a clique of very senior officers and managers (or whatever you'd call Fedorico in polite company) who were right up the arse of the Murdoch press, received all kinds of considerations like cushy jobs after leaving the force, and who may well have had anything from deep criminal involvement in, to guilty awareness of, a substratum of actually corrupt officers colluding with Murdoch scum and turning a blind eye to routine criminality by Murdoch stooges.
 
Was it not reported (heh) a while back that there were 47 ex-plod working for notw?

If that is so (if it is so, I think it is so) .. we can reasonably worry from what has happened that this could actually be nigh on systemic.

Hayman and Yate's testimony was (deliberately) boring and entirely unreliable imo. One wonderful bit that doesn't seem to have been picked up.
At a meeting in the Oriel restaurant Hayman spent £47 on a bottle for someone he recalls was from the paper and was possibly a female, although he could not recall their name.
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Fuck off. :)
 
That mail link is excellent. So is the beeb one.

However I haven't heard of it reported on radio/tv so I still contend the point has not been picked up, so far, as being as striking as it appears to me.

(eta everything)
 
Private Eye had it as Sun on Sunday headline: Will the last Sun journalist escorted off the premises by the police please turn out the lights? :)
 
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articul8 said:
Tom Watson on the Daniel Morgan case:.
http://www.publications.parliament....20229/halltext/120229h0002.htm#12022953000004

Fucking hell :eek: How come people don't know more about this - police involvement in murdering someone about to blow the whistle on corruption, Murdoch journalists spying on the detective leading a murder inquiry? Same guy mysteriously getting info on the Soham murders and publishing it ahead of any trial?
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Look at who it concerns - that's how
 
I was just wondering whether there is a liklehood of Cameron getting dragged back into this.
 
I'm waiting for someone to reveal that the Met supplied the cocaine for ruling-class parties (possibly even beast-orgies given known proclivities) in Chipping Norton.
 
Any of these people who are giving evidence next week likely to say anything interesting?

Roger Baker (HM Inspectorate of Constabulary)
Elizabeth Filkin
Sir Paul Stephenson (former MPS)
Lord Condon (former MPS)
Chief Constable Lynne Owens (Surrey Police and former MPS)
Lord Stevens (former MPS)
Lord Blair (former MPS)
Tim Godwin (former MPS)
Bob Quick (former MPS)
 
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