brogdale
Coming to terms with late onset Anarchism
Yep, nasty, grifting cunt.
Matthew Goodwin.....
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DotCommunist
So many particulars. So many questions.
Going native
How Matthew Goodwin became part of the right-populist movement he once sought to explain.
www.newstatesman.com
Oliver Eagleton. Relative of T. Eagleton I assume. smh.
Jeff Robinson
Marxist-Lentilist: Jackboots and Jackfruit
Going native
How Matthew Goodwin became part of the right-populist movement he once sought to explain.
Oliver Eagleton. Relative of T. Eagleton I assume. smh.
Yes, according to wiki.
Also fuck Matthew Goodwin.
brogdale
Coming to terms with late onset Anarchism
as nailed by killer b in post #3 of this threadGoing native
How Matthew Goodwin became part of the right-populist movement he once sought to explain.
Oliver Eagleton. Relative of T. Eagleton I assume. smh.
nino_savatte
No pasaran!
I think the fact that Goodwin has a professorship at the University of Kent is rather instructive: it's where many of the Furedi cultists work or have worked, including Furedi himself, who's now an emeritus prof. Goodwin himself is wrapped up with the rest of the ex-RCPers, and is a contributor to Sp*ked.
brogdale
Coming to terms with late onset Anarchism
Drawn into furry Frank's Faversham flock, eh? Always plotting in trap 2 at the Bear.
nino_savatte
No pasaran!
I've attended 2 one-day conferences at U of Kent and each time, I was aware that I was deep within enemy territory.
nino_savatte
No pasaran!
Good piece on Goodwin by Adam Bienkov.
adambienkov.substack.com
I knew People Polling, who conduct somewhat questionable polls for GB "News" were suspicious, but I didn't know who was behind the outfit. Now, I do.
Goodwin’s Law: How Britain’s Political 'Elite' Seek to Distract From Their Own Power
The longer a debate continues, the greater the likelihood is that the side with actual power will accuse the side with none, of being part of the 'elite'
adambienkov.substack.com
I knew People Polling, who conduct somewhat questionable polls for GB "News" were suspicious, but I didn't know who was behind the outfit. Now, I do.
Smokeandsteam
Working Class First
Someone on here claimed academics were on £70k a year. Given the level of grift from Goodwin that can’t be true. I mean this is close is begging:
The39thStep
Urban critical thinker
Might have developed a Paul Mason coke habit
Smokeandsteam
Working Class First
Excellent takedown of Goodwin by Kenan Malik.
He’s right to draw the contrast with Liu’s analysis of the PMC: which highlights many of the same things that Goodwin does but understands the ‘new elite’ as a block to genuinely transformative politics and a group who have “abandoned class politics for what she calls “performative transgression”. And where Goodwin argues that the “radical woke” capture of society lies at “the roots of today’s more turbulent politics”, Liu understands that the new elite is the product, not the cause, of political turbulence, the consequence of the evisceration of mass movements for social change.”
www.theguardian.com
He’s right to draw the contrast with Liu’s analysis of the PMC: which highlights many of the same things that Goodwin does but understands the ‘new elite’ as a block to genuinely transformative politics and a group who have “abandoned class politics for what she calls “performative transgression”. And where Goodwin argues that the “radical woke” capture of society lies at “the roots of today’s more turbulent politics”, Liu understands that the new elite is the product, not the cause, of political turbulence, the consequence of the evisceration of mass movements for social change.”
This obsession with a ‘new elite’ hides the real roots of power | Kenan Malik
The picture that Matthew Goodwin paints of modern Britain’s ‘ruling class’ shows a weak understanding of how and where influence works
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The39thStep
Urban critical thinker
Good articleExcellent takedown of Goodwin by Kenan Malik.
He’s right to draw the contest with Liu’s analysis of the PMC: which highlights many of the same things that Goodwin does but understands the ‘new elite’ as a block to genuinely transformative politics and a group who have “abandoned class politics for what she calls “performative transgression”. And where Goodwin argues that the “radical woke” capture of society lies at “the roots of today’s more turbulent politics”, Liu understands that the new elite is the product, not the cause, of political turbulence, the consequence of the evisceration of mass movements for social change.”
This obsession with a ‘new elite’ hides the real roots of power | Kenan Malik
The picture that Matthew Goodwin paints of modern Britain’s ‘ruling class’ shows a weak understanding of how and where influence works
Smokeandsteam
Working Class First
If you mean by 'pro WC' the row about Novara interviewing him then you and I have very different definitions of the term.
The most depressing part of the tedious ruck is that Kenan Malik's convincing takedown of Goodwin's conception of the 'new elite' has been completely ignored lest it get in the way of the ahistorical drivel being pumped out by both sides in the witless debate.
chilango
Hypothetical Wanker
I put "pro w/c" in scare quotes for a reason.
Smokeandsteam
Working Class First
Ah! Anyway, we are in full agreement about the utterly depressing nature of the ‘debate’
Brainaddict
slight system overdrive
There's a part of me that feels that if you could really trounce Goodwin and his ideas in the interview it could be worth doing. But Bastani isn't that good, and in fact tends to want to be quite chummy in most of his interviews. So it's a bad idea.
The39thStep
Urban critical thinker
Agree with you. The minimum they should have is a couple of people who have got a good critique of Goodwin on some sort of panel arrangement/discussion format. Bastani himself hasn't the politics to do a decent job.
Smokeandsteam
Working Class First
Seems to have gone cold on the idea...
Smokeandsteam
Working Class First
Yes. Given Goodwin's stated position and purported reasons for writing the book there could be a really useful debate about class, the role of the PMC, the socio-economic consequences of globalisation and the rise of 'populism' and one which really takes to task the position of both Goodwin and his equally vile liberal critics. The Novara debate won't do either although I intend to listen to it.
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steeplejack
trapped lbw for a duck
Goodwin seems a bit like a shit Matthew Collins (the writer who nu Labour types got in a lather over as an "intellectual outrider of the BNP" after writing his book The Likes of Us quite a few years back now).
Agree that these cosplay arguments / outrage are beyond tedious, and that Goodwin seems to have become a lightweight & wanker.
Agree that these cosplay arguments / outrage are beyond tedious, and that Goodwin seems to have become a lightweight & wanker.
Smokeandsteam
Working Class First
What happened to him?
steeplejack
trapped lbw for a duck
who knows. a one-book wonder it seems, but it was a really good book.
steeplejack
trapped lbw for a duck
I get that this thread is for slagging off a blowhard, but on working class writing, I'm reading this presently, and it is a really good discussion of the pressures / tnesions surrounding the rise of the BNP in Burnley / Lancashire milltowns at the turn of the century: highly recommended
lwbooks.co.uk
On Burnley Road - Lawrence Wishart
On Burnley Road explores the rise of the BNP in Burnley in 2001.
lwbooks.co.uk
Smokeandsteam
Working Class First
It was excellent and clearly authentic, both well written and researched.
The39thStep
Urban critical thinker
I'm sure I went to a day conference/ seminar many years ago in Manchester Town Hall at which both Goodwin and Makin-White spoke .
Going back to the Collins book I seem to recall it was lambasted by the likes of Cockers and co on here
Going back to the Collins book I seem to recall it was lambasted by the likes of Cockers and co on here
steeplejack
trapped lbw for a duck
Yes in that it failed to acknowledge the leading role of the Marxist-Leninist party in shaping a unified & disciplined working class movement
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