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Mark Duggan shooting inquest in London finally starts...

Yet more evidence of the Met's instinctive tendancy to close ranks and lie.

http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2014/jan/12/police-mark-duggan-risk-disorder

Police knew that the shooting of Mark Duggan risked triggering wider disorder, despite Scotland Yard's later claim that the Tottenham riots that spread across England could not have been predicted, the Observer can reveal.

Extra security measures were ordered by senior officers on the night of Duggan's death in August 2011, including the instruction that fire engines and ambulances were not to attend calls from potential flashpoints without police authorisation. Local police stations were told to increase the security of their back gates and riot police were ordered not to drive around due to the risk of being embroiled in further incidents.

The steps taken in the immediate aftermath of the death of the father-of-six at the hands of an armed officer have not previously been made public, despite an independent inquiry and a police report into the handling of the riots. Until now the police have insisted that they had no intelligence that could have allowed them to predict the initial disorder in Tottenham, which led to the deaths of five people, an estimated £500m of damage and more than 4,000 arrests across the country.
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And they ask for respect from 'the community'.
 
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DaveCinzano said:
You mean apart from evidence produced or testimony delivered at the inquest, eg

http://dugganinquest.independent.gov.uk/transcripts/1011.htm
http://dugganinquest.independent.gov.uk/docs/CD029532_-_CD029538.pdf
http://dugganinquest.independent.gov.uk/transcripts/1324.htm
http://dugganinquest.independent.gov.uk/docs/CD032777_-_CD032799A(2).pdf

etc
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The evidence is police records. I'd like to see something that can be independently corroborated.

But if even some of that is true, it's now time to shut down Operation Trident.
 
littlebabyjesus said:
The evidence is police records. I'd like to see something that can be independently corroborated.

But if even some of that is true, it's now time to shut down Operation Trident.
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You claimed there was no evidence that Trident was looking at Duggan before he was killed; I provided a small sample of the heaps put before the inquest.

Now you suggest it was all fabricated?

Odd.

That Trident had files on Duggan doesn't mean that he was Europe's #1 gangster. Nor does it mean that Duggan's death was right, nor that the police narrative was accurate.
 
I am saying that there is no reason to believe that it isn't fabricated. They've had plenty of time. I don't know, but I'm not taking the police's word for it. Some, most or all of it may be fabricated or changed. They're liars.
 
Limerick Red said:
The London demo was very mixed and as you describe representative of the area.family members and speakers spoke of orgreave,hillsborough,Birmingham 6 and Guildford 4,travellers, there was a speaker from the Kurdish community, there was a real sense that this keeps happening over and over again in working class communities,and while undoubtably the black members of our communities get a ridiculasly high portion of the shit dealt out, that the thing that binds all the mentioned incidents is poverty, and class.
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That warms my heart, when i grew up in islington race was still a big deal and most of my friends were black and they wouldn't come and visit as there had be many attacks.
But now the same guys i knew that were racist have black mates and everything is mixed,and the way the media were playing it i thought maybe the divide was still a issue in other parts if london.

I do love that in an area were i use. To hear people singing NF songs.
Now the issue is jobs for the working class instead of jobs for the white working class

Of course me being irish there cockney cunts
 
DaveCinzano said:
That Trident had files on Duggan doesn't mean that he was Europe's #1 gangster. Nor does it mean that Duggan's death was right, nor that the police narrative was accurate.
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When it comes to the Met I NEVER trust their narrative.

De Menzies was running away. Had a big thick coat with wires hanging out. Resisted arrest. That materialised to be bollocks. When that was proven to be wrong stuff about him being an illegal immigrant was leaked to the media too.

Duggan came out of the taxi guns blazing-shot an officer-turns out that wasnt true either. The met took what was it 4 days to visit the family-in the meantime they leaked all this unproven gang links info to the media.

Ive seen Duggan described as a thug. A serial gang member. Drug runner. Fact is this is all speculation. It may or may not be true-but its source is highly fucking questionable, and even if it was true-it would appear an unarmed man was gunned down. Frankly I dont give a shit if it was Adolf Hitler gunned down-nothing changes the pertinent facts. An unarmed man stepped out of a vehicle and raised his arms-and paid the ultimate price.

After the riots kicked off every single member of that unit were allowed 8 hours to confer and compile statements. When questioned by the IPCC all the officers chose to make no comment except submit their prepared statements. The taxi that duggan was in (a minefield of forensic evidence) was allowed to be driven away before being returned the next day.

No senior scenes of crime officer was appointed for 48 hours.

This whole incident has cock up written all over it, and taking away the taxi driver, and the ONLY independent witness, we have a bunch of coppers submitting preprepared statements.

One senior met officer was quoted as saying 'This was death by a thousand fuck ups'...to me that says it all.
 
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kraepelin said:
littlejohn.jpg
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That has to be one of the sickest !!! things i've ever seen.Even if Mark had been a "gangster" which i've seen no proof of. That woman lost her son, which no mother should ever live to see

And that cunt littlejohn attacks her as if she was a fictional character and not a living person.

What a sick twisted person he is.If thats what he willing to put in print imagine what he really thinks.
I thought we had move on as a society, but if you can print that in a national paper, we are truely fucked[/quote]

Not that it makes it any better but Littlejohn is referring to the aunty, not the mum.
 
leanderman said:
Quite a good read.

It's intriguing that Duggan knew he was being followed by an unmarked Trident car, and sent an encrypted Blackberry message saying so.
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The fact that a man being followed by an unmarked police car correctly suspects that it is trident should suggest to some of those claiming Duggan was a fitted up normal chap that perhaps he was involved in gun crime.

Obviously I don't think he should have been executed by the police, nor that this was other than a poorly covered up fuckup. I do think that it undermines your case if you pretend he wasn't an anti social shit.
 
kropotkin said:
The fact that a man being followed by an unmarked police car correctly suspects that it is trident should suggest to some of those claiming Duggan was a fitted up normal chap that perhaps he was involved in gun crime.

Obviously I don't think he should have been executed by the police, nor that this was other than a poorly covered up fuckup. I do think that it undermines your case if you pretend he wasn't an anti social shit.
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There is also the fact the convicted (after three trials) supplier of the gun said of Duggan: 'Live by the gun, die by the bullet.'

And Duggan's print being on the gun box (but not gun, or gun sock).

Of course, this means he was unarmed and should have been arrested, not shot.
 
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