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Man In The High Castle (tv show)

I ended up blitzing this last night, and going to bed way too late.

Won't give anything away if you haven't made it to the end. But I agree that both male leads are bland. Rufus Sewell is good value as the US Nazi, as is the German Nazi trying to stop war. Biggest disappointment character-wise is Joe. I don't get any real sense of why he is a Nazi.
 
littlebabyjesus said:
I ended up blitzkrieging this last night, and going to bed way too late.

Won't give anything away if you haven't made it to the end. But I agree that both male leads are bland. Rufus Sewell is good value as the US Nazi, as is the German Nazi trying to stop war. Biggest disappointment character-wise is Joe. I don't get any real sense of why he is a Nazi.
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Various puzzling plot points. :D

First and foremost, given that it's just a bus-ride away, why don't more people just fuck off to the neutral zone? Juliana got a job there on her first day!
 
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Watched the first episode and haven't really felt any desire to watch the second, but is it worth sticking with?
 
sim667 said:
Watched the first episode and haven't really felt any desire to watch the second, but is it worth sticking with?
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theres something wrong with it, can't put my finger on what. Its not set design or acting, all thats great. But it lost me at ep 6 iirc. I'll go back and watch the rest at some point but I'll only do so when proper bored. So far I'm seeing a pretty, interesting failure.
 
The main characters are a bit flat, that's the problem. The story is okay, but the secondary characters and the design are top notch. If it makes a second season, the story should definitely improve (given where it's going) but the lead characters remain a big problem.

I enjoyed it enough. I consider it a freebie for getting the £60 Prime for a year deal. :)

So far as PKD goes, he's an ideas man. The story was never that coherent. All his best work is in short stories. (Second Variety is still really chilling)
 
Chz said:
The main characters are a bit flat, that's the problem. The story is okay, but the secondary characters and the design are top notch. If it makes a second season, the story should definitely improve (given where it's going) but the lead characters remain a big problem.

I enjoyed it enough. I consider it a freebie for getting the £60 Prime for a year deal. :)

So far as PKD goes, he's an ideas man. The story was never that coherent. All his best work is in short stories. (Second Variety is still really chilling)
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Three Stigmata of Palmer K Eldritch and Do Androids Dream of electric sheep still hold up to my mind, although even those are not much longer than novella
 
I got the novel a few Christmases ago, but hadn't got round to reading it, so purposefully avoided watching this show first. Well, I read it, rather liked it, and am now somewhat stumped on how or why such liberties have been taken with the plot and characters by AP. I can't see that the many major (or minor) changes help either from a budgetary or a narrative point of view :confused:

Many of the bits I liked most about the book are absent or amended or completely revised.
  • The complete Nipponisation of American culture in PSA (speech, behaviour, business, past times etc) - now it's just
  • The absence of any Nartzees-in-leather-overcoats-prancing-around-Brooklyn shtick by omitting any action actually taking place on the East Coast except as related via media/second hand from visitors etc - oh look, it's relocated loads of the characters and set pieces to Noo Yoik, complete with Nartzees-in-leather-overcoats-prancing-around-Brooklyn!
  • Having AH already dead - oh wait, Zee Führer IST ALIVE!!! And an entirely different succession struggle
  • 45 minute rocket trip - now two hours by Der Konkord
  • Trade Missions and collaborationist government stuff - now just a province of Japan
  • All the emphasis on the I Ching - now completely dialled down
  • Avoids the EVIL JAP SOLDIERS clichés by showing a progression from the militarist-dominated polity of the 30s/40s - now we're back to EVIL JAP SOLDIERS etc
 
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The stink that is TMITHC is what worries me about Netflix's latest acquisition: Altered Carbon.
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Man in the High Castle was made by Amazon who have made some quality series but who are still finding their feet with producing their own content. On the whole both Netflix and Amazon have a track record of making rather good telly. It's up to the show runners and how they handle a property rather than the channel or streaming service. I'd rather them doing it than a US network channel. Creatives tend to be given far more creative control at a streaming services or a subscription channel than at the the mainstream US network channels.
 
Ah, my bad I thought it was a Netflix production. I agree both Amazon and Netflix have a pretty good record on the whole, I especially enjoyed Marco Polo and looking forward to a second series. Mainly I am apprehensive about having a much loved book made into a TV series (or indeed a film), I was the same with Game of Thrones but HBO did a grand job.
 
Got up to episode six now. Very disappointing after the promise of the pilot. I like Rupe, and Joe is fine, despite not knowing why he is such a committed nazi. But the two leads, oh god they're rubbish. The only thing that stops them from being unwatchable is Burn Gorman. How the hell did anyone think he could act? Absolutely awful.

Essentially, TMITHC has all the hallmarks of an ITV series that isn't Broadchurch. It's not awful, but it looks like something made by HBO apprentices, and it doesn't quite trust its audience to be able to cope with a more complex plot.

If they just go with the ideas behind the book, and fuck off its actual plot, it could develop into something decent. I should probably wait to see how this season wraps up before making any predictions.
 
I watched all this yesterday & today. New series in a week, I believe.

Haven't read the book so the plot is more of a mystery but I can possibly guess what's going on.
 
I've just finished the second series. Enjoyed it. Did wonder where they were going mid series, but they brought it together. The young nazis taking LSD was a bit odd, like the leader of Kepati finally showing a human side and that the world may be nucked by someone mader then Hitler.

Had a different feel to the first series so worth a watch if you were sitting on the fence after the first.
 
Just started the second series but might give up because I can’t make out most of the words. It’s like it’s a show about when the mumble nazis and Japanese mumble empire won the mumble war and mumbllemememlff
 
I've got horrific tinnitus and basically watch everything with subs on.

Gets weird with some anime, when they've only got the English soundtrack (or in some cases where the dub is flat out superior - eg: Cowboy Bebop) but the subs are directly translated from the Japanese. And they're frequently nothing alike.
 
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