Malaysia Airlines Boeing 777 vanishes without trace

[ShakespearO]

Film deal or no, I doubt anyone pulled alive out of a life raft - having survived on rainwater and fellow passengers - is going to get a very good reception from the Chinese public.

 

[pesh]

cupped hands, damp clothes can be wringed for water. improvise.

you're a waste of a good avatar.

 

[Corax]

This thread just appeared in tapatalk for me as:

Will you vote for independence? Malaysia Airlines Boeing 777 vanishes without trace.

 

[Minnie_the_Minx]

Film deal or no, I doubt anyone pulled alive out of a life raft - having survived on rainwater and fellow passengers - is going to get a very good reception from the Chinese public.

It's a long time ago, but I wonder what the reaction of the Uruguayan public was to the survivors of Andes crash in 1972?

Have just found an article from 2012 about one of the survivors who's still tormented by it, but don't know what the general reaction of the public was at the time

 

[ShakespearO]

It's a long time ago, but I wonder what the reaction of the Uruguayan public was to the survivors of Andes crash in 1972?

Have just found an article from 2012 about one of the survivors who's still tormented by it, but don't know what the general reaction of the public was at the time

Apparently you never lose the craving once you've tasted human flesh.

 

[kebabking]

Apparently you never lose the craving once you've tasted human flesh.

if thats true, i would imagine that its a psychological thing regarding the breaking of social norms - because i can assure you that burning human flesh doesn't smell very appetising, nor does rotting human flesh...

 

[Minnie_the_Minx]

Apparently you never lose the craving once you've tasted human flesh.

Really?

Well anyway, that particular guy is a paediatric cardiologist, so he's doing good for other people

 

[Pickman's model]

if thats true, i would imagine that its a psychological thing regarding the breaking of social norms - because i can assure you that burning human flesh doesn't smell very appetising, nor does rotting human flesh...

rotting flesh of any description doesn't smell very nice.

 

[equationgirl]

equation asked a question, u twat.

I asked a question which was mostly rhetorical to be fair. None of your answers were remotely practical by the way.

 

[Pickman's model]

Stop being a dick

like asking the sun to set in the east

 

[Cid]

Firstly as everyone else has said you're an idiot.

Secondly to address your point the only reason 50 people survived this crash is because the pilot managed to get it down very close to the shoreline, in shallow and calm water. There was also people on the beach who could get out quickly and pick up survivors and (if I remember correctly) some French doctors happened to be at the resort at the time. So basically a lot of factors in their favour.

The crash on the Hudson is more interesting as that plane stayed in one piece, although again the survival rate is as much to do with the calm waters and the proximity of potential rescuers.

The lack of highjackers attempting to kill the pilots was almost certainly a factor in the Hudson crash. Not to disparage Sully Sullenberger, pretty much the ideal pilot for it (nearly 20,000 hours flying, glider pilot, expert on safety and accidents), but Leul Abate and Yonis Merkuria had a few additional problems.

 

[existentialist]

I suggest you go and as this guy.

You're not seriously citing that as an argument for landing planes on the ocean being "soft", are you?

Or are you just fucking around?

 

[equationgirl]

You're not seriously citing that as an argument for landing planes on the ocean being "soft", are you?

Or are you just fucking around?

Bit of both I suspect.

 

[frogwoman]

What a disgraceful way for the Malaysian government and Malaysian Airlines to handle this. Those poor families

 

[thriller]

What a disgraceful way for the Malaysian government and Malaysian Airlines to handle this. Those poor families

i said something similar earlier and was accused of being racist.

 

[thriller]

You're not seriously citing that as an argument for landing planes on the ocean being "soft", are you?

Or are you just fucking around?

it is possible to land a plane on the ocean as a last resort and have some survivors.

 

[thriller]

You know what just occurred to me??????

WHY was no calls or messages made by any of the passengers?? Not even a wattsapp text?

How strange is that???

 

[frogwoman]

Seriously landing a plane in the ocean has got to be one of the most dangerous places to land it, survival chances are pretty limited I would have thought, due to the freezing temperatures etc...

 

[Corax]

You know what just occurred to me??????

WHY was no calls or messages made by any of the passengers?? Not even a wattsapp text?

How strange is that???

I don't know. We should probably ask Jazz.

 

[equationgirl]

You know what just occurred to me??????

WHY was no calls or messages made by any of the passengers?? Not even a wattsapp text?

How strange is that???

Because the plane was well outside the coverage of the closest mobile phone mast.

Because the passengers were already dead of hypoxia.

Because you really are a clueless idiot who hasn't bothered to read any of the coverage of the past 2+ weeks.

 

[equationgirl]

it is possible to land a plane on the ocean as a last resort and have some survivors.

Not for several weeks over 1000 miles from the nearest land mass.

 

[equationgirl]

i said something similar earlier and was accused of being racist.

You called them stupid Malaysian idiots, iirc. Pretty racist.

 

[weltweit]

What a disgraceful way for the Malaysian government and Malaysian Airlines to handle this. Those poor families

How do you mean? The texting relatives perhaps? Other than that I am not sure they had too many choices as to how they handled things.

 

[2hats]

it is possible to land a plane on the ocean as a last resort and have some survivors.

Name a single deep ocean ditching, 1000+ miles from land, in force 7 conditions where 1 or more persons have survived.

 

[Minnie_the_Minx]

Name a single deep ocean ditching, 1000+ miles from land, in force 7 conditions where 1 or more persons have survived.

I'm looking forward to thriller's response

 

[equationgirl]

I'm looking forward to thriller's response

I think we are all waiting with bated breath for it

 

[2hats]

I'm looking forward to thriller's response

Actually there is one single event (as best I know) that almost comes close, but still doesn't qualify. Figuring out what it was is left as an exercise for the reader.

Overwhelmingly the odds are stacked against anyone surviving here. Particularly when one considers that it can't have been a controlled ditching of any sorts since if there were any control they would have flown towards the Australian or Indonesian coasts instead some X thousand miles earlier and either landed or ditched close to the coast/in a river estuary shortly after dawn and having drawn attention to themselves, if they could not have broadcast a mayday/otherwise flagged their predicament to someone.

 

[Minnie_the_Minx]

This one, but that was only 9 hours?

Bahia Bakari (born 1996) is a French schoolgirl who was the sole survivor of Yemenia Flight 626, an Airbus A310, which crashed into the Indian Ocean near the north coast of Grande Comore, Comoros on June 30, 2009, killing all the 152 other people on board.[1][2][3] Bakari, who could barely swim and had no life vest, clung to a piece of aircraft wreckage, floating in heavy seas for over nine hours, much of it in pitch darkness, before being rescued.[4] Her mother, who had been traveling with her from Paris, France, for a summer vacation in Comoros, died in the crash.[5][5][6]

Dubbed "the miracle girl" by the world press ("la miraculée" in French), Bakari was flown back to France on a private Falcon-900 government jet, escorted by French Cooperation Minister Alain Joyandet. Arriving at Le Bourget airport, she was reunited with her father, Kassim Bakari, and the rest of her family, and transported to a Paris hospital for a fractured pelvis and collarbone, burns to her knees and some facial injuries.[2][5][7][8]

Shall keep looking

 

[Minnie_the_Minx]

This one?

Eddie Rickenbacker

• During the Second World War, Rickenbacker landed in the Pacific Ocean with seven others, after their plane got lost and ditched in the sea. The men got into three life rafts after the plane ditched. They managed to salvage a few provisions, although little water and food. Roping the rafts together the men drifted for three weeks surviving on scant rations. One man eventually died, following which the others decided to split up, with the strongest heading off to try and find land. This ended in success, with the surviving men in all three rafts eventually found and rescued.
  

 

[2hats]

This one, but that was only 9 hours?

Nope. Proximity to coast.

This one?

Nope. Pre-dates jet air liners; military trained/equipped.

There was one ditching of a military flight, a Lockheed Super Constellation, in the Atlantic in 1962, rough seas. However there were ships close by, helicopter support, the crew were military trained/equipped, ditching was 500 miles off the Irish coast and again not jet engine powered (lower ditching speeds). 48 survivors of 76 on board.

You can find the odd survivor or two from a ditched prop aircraft on military missions (in eg WWII) that floated around for some time with the correct kit. But nothing like this situation.