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Loughborough Junction public space improvements - consultation begins

This morning's anecdotal datapoint: school's back in and the traffic was fine on chl when I went in.

There seems to be much less on Milkwood road and Herne hill road too - although that is just a feeling, could be observation bias (ie I never used to take much notice).

I think the scheme might actually be delivering its main objective. Even sadder then that the divisive implementation looks to make it unlikely to survive.

I'm not sure that they are all back actually, there wasn't nearly as many kids out when I went to work at my normal time and I usually see a fair amount. Although I did hear whispers on the bus about inset days but that could be a red herring
 
Because it's shorter to copy off a printed flyer?
First time I copied into my PC from that post up thread I got number unobtainable (because I mistook a O for a 0 if you know what I mean). I expected the ubiquitous square thingy that people scan into their iphones.[not that would have helped me]

Given the state of the traffic today maybe its a shame I already voted. All sweetness and light out there this morning from 8 am until now.

They have of course completed their works on the traffic lights - including another Pelican crossing outside LJ station.
 
I will not be eating any hats. People are suffering due to transport having to travel further afield to get in and out of the areas.
As for the Clare Neely leaflet is this now another reason they have just invented for why the roads have been closed ? Space for Cycling!
George Wright was told the first time round the leaflets they send out are NOT delivered to households. The pile in Cambria road and dumped in a foyer prove this again. Wonder where else they have been dumped?
 
Re the delivery system for those consultation leaflets.. someone posted this on facebook on Friday, a folorn looking pile of them left out in the rain on cambria rd.
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I'm sure you probably have already but I think you should send these pictures to all the usual players and maybe also put it on social media? I think it's time some of this incompetence gets called out in a more public arena, maybe Lambeth can be embarrassed into getting something right.
 
Because it's shorter to copy off a printed flyer?
But there's also more chance of getting it wrong, as proved by CH1. It's so lazy of her to copy and paste off a tweet, I expected better, obviously hasn't quite grasped the difference between online social media comms and printed comms
 
Well, having emailed a number of councillors and my local MP about this, today I received the following response:

Dear Mr. X

Case ########

I am writing to give you our response to your complaint received on 27/10/ 2015 regarding Loughborough Road junction Closure. This matter has been passed to me as the Performance and Development Officer responsible for investigation and reply. Before I respond to your specific concerns, I would like to assure you all complaints about Lambeth Council and the services we provide are treated seriously and are used as an opportunity for us to improve our services and to ensure lessons are learnt.
In Line with our usual procedure, I have asked George Wright, The Senior Project Manager to assess the circumstances relating to the matter you have complained about. With this now complete, I have based my response on his findings.

As part of an eight week review we’re seeking views on the experimental road closures in the Loughborough Junction area and we want to hear from you. Please visit our web page via the link below and complete the survey to let us know what you think.

http://www.lambeth.gov.uk/housing/regeneration/loughborough-junction-what-you-need-to-know

Please feel free to share the link with anyone you think may wish to comment on these road closures.

The survey will close on Friday 6 November 2015.

If you’d like to request a paper copy of the survey, please email us at environment@lambeth.gov.ukor call us on 020 7926 0209.

The experimental road closures in Loughborough Junction are about creating a safer and more pleasant public space, reducing traffic and improving the environment. We are keeping the scheme under constant review and we know the strength of feeling on this issue. We will take into account all views expressed to us, both positive and negative, along with traffic counts from surrounding roads, air quality data and consultation results from an independent, community engagement charity.

Consultation prior to the road closures was comprehensive, with around 11,000 residents and businesses contacted and our officers are in on-going dialogue with Transport for London, the emergency services and community representatives. Now that the scheme is in place we will respond to concerns - we want to ensure that it is given a proper chance to succeed, and we will take mitigating actions where possible.

Following feedback from residents and local councillors, Lambeth council will bring forward its planned review of the experimental road closures in Loughborough Junction.

The review had been planned to take place after twelve (12) weeks, however it will now happen after eight (8) weeks. Traffic data will be examined and all feedback will be listened to – from ward councillors, residents, campaign groups and businesses. Dialogue is on-going with representatives from Transport for London and the emergency services and their views will also inform the review.

The pedestrianisation and road closures have been introduced experimentally with a view to reviewing the scheme at 3 and 6 months intervals. Your objection/representation has been passed to the project manager and will be considered as part of this process.

In the interim if you have any additional comments or require any additional information, please contact either Barbara Poulter, Senior Traffic Order Officer or George Wright, Senior Project Manager on (environment@lambeth.gov.uk) direct.



If you believe the complaint has not been dealt with in the right way, or you have any concerns then please do not hesitate to contact me.

Kind regards

Zuber Bulbulia

Performance & Development Officer

Environment Department

London Borough of Lambeth

Tel: 0207 926 4313

Email: ZBulbulia@lambeth.gov.uk

The only response I got from any of the councillors was from Tim Briggs. I got an automated response from Helen Hayes MP.
I suppose it's too much to hope for a reply from Ms. Brathwaite or even from one of my ward councillors.
Maybe their email boxes have been full to bursting point over the last few weeks.
 
BREAKING NEWS I had this response from Cllr Brathwaite to my open letter to all Councillors (copied to local MPs) which summarised my list of objections with a precis of the comments from the online petition calling for LR to be reopened (the text of the letter is on the LJRoadmadness page). Kate Hoey MP has also sent an email to the same recipients asking whether letters such as mine are being treated with equal value to the extraordinary questionnaire (i.e. the survey monkey thing). I look forward to hearing the responses.


Dear Mr H


Thank you for your email. Given its length, I will take time to read your comments and get back to you.


Regards

Councillor Jennifer Brathwaite

Labour Councillor for

Gipsy Hill Ward

Cabinet Member for Environment and Sustainability

07805943813
 
Well, having emailed a number of councillors and my local MP about this, today I received the following response:

Dear Mr. X

Case ########

I am writing to give you our response to your complaint received on 27/10/ 2015 regarding Loughborough Road junction Closure. This matter has been passed to me as the Performance and Development Officer responsible for investigation and reply. Before I respond to your specific concerns, I would like to assure you all complaints about Lambeth Council and the services we provide are treated seriously and are used as an opportunity for us to improve our services and to ensure lessons are learnt.
In Line with our usual procedure, I have asked George Wright, The Senior Project Manager to assess the circumstances relating to the matter you have complained about. With this now complete, I have based my response on his findings.

As part of an eight week review we’re seeking views on the experimental road closures in the Loughborough Junction area and we want to hear from you. Please visit our web page via the link below and complete the survey to let us know what you think.

http://www.lambeth.gov.uk/housing/regeneration/loughborough-junction-what-you-need-to-know

Please feel free to share the link with anyone you think may wish to comment on these road closures.

The survey will close on Friday 6 November 2015.

If you’d like to request a paper copy of the survey, please email us at environment@lambeth.gov.ukor call us on 020 7926 0209.

The experimental road closures in Loughborough Junction are about creating a safer and more pleasant public space, reducing traffic and improving the environment. We are keeping the scheme under constant review and we know the strength of feeling on this issue. We will take into account all views expressed to us, both positive and negative, along with traffic counts from surrounding roads, air quality data and consultation results from an independent, community engagement charity.

Consultation prior to the road closures was comprehensive, with around 11,000 residents and businesses contacted and our officers are in on-going dialogue with Transport for London, the emergency services and community representatives. Now that the scheme is in place we will respond to concerns - we want to ensure that it is given a proper chance to succeed, and we will take mitigating actions where possible.

Following feedback from residents and local councillors, Lambeth council will bring forward its planned review of the experimental road closures in Loughborough Junction.

The review had been planned to take place after twelve (12) weeks, however it will now happen after eight (8) weeks. Traffic data will be examined and all feedback will be listened to – from ward councillors, residents, campaign groups and businesses. Dialogue is on-going with representatives from Transport for London and the emergency services and their views will also inform the review.

The pedestrianisation and road closures have been introduced experimentally with a view to reviewing the scheme at 3 and 6 months intervals. Your objection/representation has been passed to the project manager and will be considered as part of this process.

In the interim if you have any additional comments or require any additional information, please contact either Barbara Poulter, Senior Traffic Order Officer or George Wright, Senior Project Manager on (environment@lambeth.gov.uk) direct.



If you believe the complaint has not been dealt with in the right way, or you have any concerns then please do not hesitate to contact me.

Kind regards

Zuber Bulbulia

Performance & Development Officer

Environment Department

London Borough of Lambeth

Tel: 0207 926 4313

Email: ZBulbulia@lambeth.gov.uk

The only response I got from any of the councillors was from Tim Briggs. I got an automated response from Helen Hayes MP.
I suppose it's too much to hope for a reply from Ms. Brathwaite or even from one of my ward councillors.
Maybe their email boxes have been full to bursting point over the last few weeks.


Copy and paste job, from the same person who we suspected to be an office temp they got in to plough through the emails they were sent, wonder if he/she changes their job title depending on who they're replying to. The email I got from that address didn't have a footer on it and certainly not a phone number. That's a bit dangerous, giving you a way to actually contact a person
 
Before I respond to your specific concerns..

I'm confused. Is the rest of that email supposed to look like a response to your specific concerns?

Amazing you got a phone number, my emails from Zuber had at the bottom in bold 'do not reply to this email'.
 
Kate Hoey MP has also sent an email to the same recipients asking whether letters such as mine are being treated with equal value to the extraordinary questionnaire (i.e. the survey monkey thing). I look forward to hearing the responses.
Very interested to learn what answers are forthcoming to that.
 
I'm sure you probably have already but I think you should send these pictures to all the usual players and maybe also put it on social media? I think it's time some of this incompetence gets called out in a more public arena, maybe Lambeth can be embarrassed into getting something right.

Worth a try always but I have a feeling that there's a sort of siege / bunker mentality going on, so the higher the volume of criticism the less likely they are to respond to individual bits of it.
 
I will not be eating any hats. People are suffering due to transport having to travel further afield to get in and out of the areas.
As for the Clare Neely leaflet is this now another reason they have just invented for why the roads have been closed ? Space for Cycling!
George Wright was told the first time round the leaflets they send out are NOT delivered to households. The pile in Cambria road and dumped in a foyer prove this again. Wonder where else they have been dumped?
I can't eat my hat, even if I want to. The website says "You have already voted"
So it's all down to a "late surge" as Peter Snow might have said many times.
 
Rush hour this evening:

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Gridlock on CHL outside Tesco, 17:46



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Gridlock on CHL west of LJ, 17:50



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Gridlock by the barrier block, 1752



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Gridlock on Gresham Rd 17:52


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Gridlock on St James Crescent, 17:57



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Gridlock on Fyfield Rd, 17:57


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Gridlock on St James Crescent, 17:59



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Gridlock on Angell Rd, 18:01
 
Re the delivery system for those consultation leaflets.. someone posted this on facebook on Friday, a folorn looking pile of them left out in the rain on cambria rd.
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Can the person who saw these and took the pictures please let Cllr Paul Gadsby know as he wishes to make a report to Lambeth re this. PGadsby@lambeth.gov.uk

According to the last consultation 11000 people were leafletted must have been the same as this one dumped leaflets as hardly anyone had a leaflet.
 
Can the person who saw these and took the pictures please let Cllr Paul Gadsby know as he wishes to make a report to Lambeth re this. PGadsby@lambeth.gov.uk
According to the last consultation 11000 people were leafletted must have been the same as this one dumped leaflets as hardly anyone had a leaflet.
This is right. If it happened now, it could easily have happened before.
 
Yep thats it they have all found alternative routes through Camberwell & Brixton, so much quicker...
So much like a sunday evening.
Don't want to rush to teucher's defence necessarily but if you right click the photos...

Of course they could be some he prepared earlier on Sunday and changed the date, but I for one couldn't be arsed to play a prank like that. It would be almost cast iron kosher if he used a 1995 piece of software like me (he is using Photoshop), but I have to say I believe these photos are real.
 
Yes they are real and were all taken at the times I said, this evening. They came straight off my cameraphone, then resized in photoshop to make them smaller (hence the "s" suffix I added to the filenames) so that they were within the upload limit for here.

I'd say a bit of mild sarcasm is small fry compared to being accused of fabricating evidence.
 
Alternatively, people can check the traffic levels on Google maps. Here's how they're reporting traffic speed as of now (22.50pm)

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Yesterday was eerily quiet it was.
I was on a 345 bus which,when we got to LJ station, the driver said would have to wait there for a few minutes, because we were too early.
My best theory is that so many people were suffering from post-halloween party syndrome that 53% of South London pulled a sickie yesterday and stayed in bed.
 
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Alternatively, people can check the traffic levels on Google maps. Here's how they're reporting traffic speed as of now (22.50pm)

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Given that the speed limit in that part of town is 20 mph, red to dark red is appropriate for that area. So it's bang on target. There's even a bit of green which means it's ahead of where it should be.
 
I'd forgotten about the 20mph thing. Did that come into force yesterday?

I don't think it applies to CHL though does it?
 
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