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Someone sent me a link to one of those new developments just by Loughborough Junction.


£1700 and apparently another £200 for bills!

I think it must be the old block of flats at LJ end of Shakespeare road. Had builders working on them for a while.
 
Time to get the sick bag out:p

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I think it must be the old block of flats at LJ end of Shakespeare road. Had builders working on them for a while.
There is an odd "Delegated Register" note in the Lambeth planning records in 2017, assuming it is indeed the block formerly known as Loughborough Court.
Says 70 local residents consulted plus local organisations. No objections. Yet I definitely put in an objection on behakf of the Brixton Soc and I'm pretty sure Anthea did one for LJAG. Not only that I think some neighbours on Shakespeare Rd objected to the extra storey over light issues and there was also the matter of the electricity substation adjoining.

Not wishing to get into hot water here, but I did some Land Registry research at the time and the irony of this whole thing is this was a Lambeth Council block - probably CPOd when the inner ring road was mooted. The Brixton Society had three paid up members in there in the late 80s early 90s - and I used to deliver their newsletters. It was pram central in the hallway - I guess priority housing cases were in some of the flats. The lift & banisters were art deco 1930s (no brasso for years obviously). And the grill on the windows facing Shakespeare had anti burglary grills outside - a death trap is there was a fire actually.

Interestingly Lambeth sold the whole block with vacant possession to one of those property companies associated with North London like Berger Group (Brixton Hill Court) Freshwater (formerly Effra Court) both similar but larger blocks on Brixton Hill.

So its a surprise really to see this block now popping up as a Node P property. Can't identify who they are at the moment - but it looks like the guys who purchased from Lambeth Council only 10 years ago made a quick turn - and we now have gone from a block with unmarried mothers and long term tenants to one which is being marketed at commercial rent - and has a penthouse to boot.

I imagine those Progress Labour councillors responsible for planning will be wetting their knickers - as will the Rt Hon Michael Gove.
I have my old PC on standby - maybe able to access some historical details later.
 
A propos of the above I had save a few odd bits on my old computer in 2017.
The block was sold by Lambeth Council to Rimex Limited on 8th March 2016
Title Number : TGL442959
Address of Property : Loughborough Court, Shakespeare Road, London (SE24 0QF)
Price Stated : £5,375,850
Registered Owner(s) : RIMEX INVESTMENTS LIMITED (Co. Regn. No. 2127522) of New
Burlington House, 1075 Finchley Road, London NW11 0PU.
Lender(s) : None

Title absolute
1 (08.03.2016) PROPRIETOR: RIMEX INVESTMENTS LIMITED (Co. Regn. No.
2127522) of New Burlington House, 1075 Finchley Road, London NW11 0PU.
2 (08.03.2016) The price stated to have been paid on 1 February 2016 was
£5,375,850.

(08.03.2016) A Transfer of the land in this title dated 1 February 2016
made between (1) The Mayor and Burgesses of the London Borough of
Lambeth and (2) Rimex Investments Limited contains restrictive
covenants.
The restrictive covenants relate to some adjoining land which seemed to have been acquired by CPO in 1985.

Proposed design as in the 2017 planning application by Rimex Limited

Loughblorough Court proposal.JPG
This was refused by Lambeth and the Rimex appealed to the Planning Inspector, who confirmed Lambeth's refusal.

The question now is how come there is a subsequent application where there were no objections? Have I got the wrong address - or is there something distinctly odd here?
It would appear that Rimex, having failed to get planning permission sold on the property to Node P whose architects gave Lambeth just what they wanted!(?)

Edited to add the planning appeal refusal
 

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PS to that - Node's website says the flats are in a 1940s industrial building.
Presumably an armaments factory!
Loughborough Court is one of many 1930s apartment blocks originally considered quite upmarket - eg Brixton Hill Court, Arlington Lodge, Effra Court, Brockwell Court, Dumbarton Court, Sandhurst Court.
Some, like Loughborough Court, Arlington Lodge and Dumbarton Court were owned outright by Lambeth Council by the 1970s.

Rightmove's website is correct - the block was built for renters - around 1935 at a guess.
 
What did that building used to be previously? Looks like it was housing previously on Street View - owned by Lambeth maybe?

Edit - Oops, answered since in the thread!
 
What did that building used to be previously? Looks like it was housing previously on Street View - owned by Lambeth maybe?

Edit - Oops, answered since in the thread!
I've extracted this picture from the failed planning application by Rimex Ltd in 2017.
Funnily enough it doesn't look too bad for a building Lambeth owned for 40 years before selling it off.
Maybe Rimex cleaned up the exterior? And it certainly looks still occupied at that point.
Louighborough Court 2017.jpg

Note for purists: Crispy Puddy_Tat teuchter - these windows look definitely post-Crittall. Possibly a Lambeth Council block double-glazing?
 
Why do Lambeth sell off usable housing and then go on about how they haven't got enough social housing for the waiting list?
 
To keep the budget in the black I presume. Short termism. The Tories made us do it.

I agree some of it is short termism. Bits of land / housing appear to have been sold off with little scrutiny by backbench Cllrs.

Take Somerleyton road. Council at some point sold off a section of it. Now they want to redevelop the site its been a stumbling block.

Same goes with the Pop/ International house site.

International House is working well as affordable workspace with Council getting some money out of it.

Now they are selling it off they are having to scramble to re house some of the groups that use it.

It is short termism that leads to consequence that a future Council has little in way of asset base to help fulfill its social functions of helping the community.

I also think in case of this Progress lead Council they somehow think private sector has communities interests at heart.
 
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Thameslink have started their part of the "let's close all the ticket offices and give the staff early retirement" proposals.

Can't say I'm wild about the service at Loughborough Junction - but that's down to erratic trains, not ticket office staff.
I can say without doubt that the only sort of staff that would help disabled passengers at Loughborough Junction (or Elephant and Castle) would be experienced hod carriers who might carry infirm people up the dangerously steep stairs.
It still amazes me that Lambeth Council never did a section 106 on the monstrous Higgs development - to get a better entrance to the station with a lift. Network Rail recently installed lifts at Herne Hill, Denmark Hill and in process at Streatham.
They seem totally uninterested in their worst stations LJ and E&C. Peckham also - but I think that one might be due for upgrading in the near future.

Edit: consultation document added
 

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Thameslink have started their part of the "let's close all the ticket offices and give the staff early retirement" proposals.

Can't say I'm wild about the service at Loughborough Junction - but that's down to erratic trains, not ticket office staff.
I can say without doubt that the only sort of staff that would help disabled passengers at Loughborough Junction (or Elephant and Castle) would be experienced hod carriers who might carry infirm people up the dangerously steep stairs.
It still amazes me that Lambeth Council never did a section 106 on the monstrous Higgs development - to get a better entrance to the station with a lift. Network Rail recently installed lifts at Herne Hill, Denmark Hill and in process at Streatham.
They seem totally uninterested in their worst stations LJ and E&C. Peckham also - but I think that one might be due for upgrading in the near future.

Edit: consultation document added
pretty sure herne hill had lift 8 or 9 years ago, which can be recent I guess
 
pretty sure herne hill had lift 8 or 9 years ago, which can be recent I guess
Quite possibly. And the three Denmark Hill station lifts were proposed in 2011 (see document)
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Regarding the proposed closure of Loughborough Junction ticket office - this is rather annoying
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It annoys me that the Labour party view is this is "rubber stamp consultation for a decision that has already been made"

Isn't this how Labour Councils operate anyway? See it in Lambeth all the time.

I don't expect it to change if Starmer government comes in.

This is in general how the establishment operate. Whether its Labour or Tory.
 
On a lighter note, has anyone ever been in Control Tower? I've passed it every day for about six months now and never seen one person in there.
Never seen a soul in there either.

A word of warning to anyone in the area: there's been a spate of mobile phone snatches by the station.
 
The newsagent on the corner of Rathgar Road was closed Saturday when I went past.
And noticed it is closed today.
Hasn't closed down has it?
 
The newsagent on the corner of Rathgar Road was closed Saturday when I went past.
And noticed it is closed today.
Hasn't closed down has it?
Dunno about that - but the Seagull Laundrette round the corner by the bus stop has closed for good.
My lodger was asking me about the nearest laundrette to LJ and the protocol nowadays as regards "taking your own soap" or getting it from a dispoenser in the laundrette.
Any ideas on that?
 
Dunno about that - but the Seagull Laundrette round the corner by the bus stop has closed for good.
My lodger was asking me about the nearest laundrette to LJ and the protocol nowadays as regards "taking your own soap" or getting it from a dispoenser in the laundrette.
Any ideas on that?
At my local one (Brixton Hill) you bring your own. Might be different at lJ
 
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