Loughborough Junction chitter-chatter

[cuppa tee]

The victim of the fatal shooting last thursday has been named and two men have been arrested...

Brixton shooting victim named as 25-year-old Gary Mayhew from Camberwell

A man shot to death in Brixton last week has been named. Gary Mayhew, 25, from the Camberwell area, has been named by police, although a formal identification has not taken place. Cops were alerted…

londonnewsonline.co.uk

 

[GarveyLives]

(post edited)

.....sadly now confirmed as a fatal shooting,

condolences to family, friends and all affected....

The victim of the fatal shooting last thursday has been named and two men have been arrested...

Brixton shooting victim named as 25-year-old Gary Mayhew from Camberwell

A man shot to death in Brixton last week has been named. Gary Mayhew, 25, from the Camberwell area, has been named by police, although a formal identification has not taken place. Cops were alerted…

londonnewsonline.co.uk

31-year old Trevin Campbell of Kingswood Avenue, Thornton Heath, has now been charged with the murder of Gary Mayhew, and appeared in custody at Barkingside Magistrates’ Court yesterday.

Two other men arrested as part of this investigation - aged 27 and aged 37 - have been bailed pending further enquiries to a date in late November.

(Source: Metropolitan Police)

Anyone with information regarding the shooting of Gary Mayhew (also known as Gaza) is asked to contact the incident room on 020 8345 3715, or via 101 quoting CAD 1151/21Oct. You can also provide information anonymously to the independent charity Crimestoppers on 0800 555 111 or visit crimestoppers_uk.org.​

 

[Gramsci]

 

[cuppa tee]

... I’d like to drop something off when I’m passing, can you tell me opening hours please Gramsci !

 

[Gramsci]

... I’d like to drop something off when I’m passing, can you tell me opening hours please Gramsci !

I've just asked. I know school term time the APG is open Saturdays.

 

[cuppa tee]

I've just asked. I know school term time the APG is open Saturdays.

no stress, there’s a couple of weeks before the party, our lass went there a couple of school holidays and enjoyed it.

 

[Gramsci]

... I’d like to drop something off when I’m passing, can you tell me opening hours please Gramsci !

Got reply.

Open every day except Sunday 10am to 5pm to drop presents off.

 

[CH1]

Ron Higgins posted this on the "Memories" Facebook group.
Pilot Printing he says - date unknown - looks 1950s to me

 

[editor]

Ron Higgins posted this on the "Memories" Facebook group.
Pilot Printing he says - date unknown - looks 1950s to me
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Probably taken from here. It's 1963.

Brixton history: Printers and birdseed at the Coldharbour Works on Shakespeare Road, Brixton

This large building on the corner of Coldharbour Lane and Shakespeare Road in Brixton has changed little in over half a century, although the Bird Seed Specialists who once traded there have long s…

www.brixtonbuzz.com

 

[teuchter]

Via the LJAG twitter, some initial proposals for improved cycle route along Loughborough Rd (these are extracts only, looks like this will be discussed at the next neighbourhood forum).

 

[Jimbeau]

Via the LJAG twitter, some initial proposals for improved cycle route along Loughborough Rd (these are extracts only, looks like this will be discussed at the next neighbourhood forum).

I hope the world's friendliest lollipop man won't find himself out of a job. He gladdens a lot of people's mornings along that stretch.

 

[Gramsci]

Via the LJAG twitter, some initial proposals for improved cycle route along Loughborough Rd (these are extracts only, looks like this will be discussed at the next neighbourhood forum).

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From a cyclists point of view the main problem with this junction is going north on Loughborough Road in mornings. Going from LJ down Loughborough Road to the lights. Lights go green and cycle straight across to Akerman Road. This is direct route to west end /city. Several times a week I get cut up by cars turning left into North end of Loughborough Road. They treat Loughborough road as main road and your in the way if you want to go straight over to Akerman. Pull off lights at speed and turn in North end of Loughborough Road. It's as though this is a priority route. Which it isn't.

So want to know if new cycle signals are priority to let cycles through first. Would be my question.

 

[Gramsci]

Via the LJAG twitter, some initial proposals for improved cycle route along Loughborough Rd (these are extracts only, looks like this will be discussed at the next neighbourhood forum).

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I'm not a great fan of "tightening up".

This junction is what I'd call an angry junction. I like a bit of space to be able to feel safe to cycle on a junction like this.

I think the rational behind tightening up is that it makes car drivers slow down. I don't see this on Loughborough road south. Where there are a couple of road tightening sections.

 

[Torpid Scorpion]

I like the planned permanent closure of fiveways but Tbh a roundabout would be better use of space. Better than the havoc that is that junction now.

 

[Gramsci]

 

[xsunnysuex]

Treated myself to a lovely plant!

 

[JSR]

People that care about LJ. I literally am speechless to see the proposals for the Sureways site and the Hardess Rd site which are apparently under consultation. This in addition to the Higgs development which is as high as 16 storeys already underway. 3 more upward of 10 storey buildings all crammed into these spaces by the railway lines, and are they actually going to be multi coloured? Hopefully I am having a hallucination and I literally could not have made this up...

Thanks to the person who posted about this on the Brixton forum. Commonplace, a 'Citizen Engagement Platform' is soliciting views on the proposed redevelopment of 14 sites in Lambeth : Draft Lambeth Site Allocations Development Plan Document (SADPD).

Please comment in the consultation people . Here is a link to part of it

Have your say

 

[Gramsci]

People that care about LJ. I literally am speechless to see the proposals for the Sureways site and the Hardess Rd site which are apparently under consultation. This in addition to the Higgs development which is as high as 16 storeys already underway. 3 more upward of 10 storey buildings all crammed into these spaces by the railway lines, and are they actually going to be multi coloured? Hopefully I am having a hallucination and I literally could not have made this up...

Thanks to the person who posted about this on the Brixton forum. Commonplace, a 'Citizen Engagement Platform' is soliciting views on the proposed redevelopment of 14 sites in Lambeth : Draft Lambeth Site Allocations Development Plan Document (SADPD).

Please comment in the consultation people . Here is a link to part of it

Have your say

Read the one about Sureways. Note below.

BTW the colours are just to distinguish the different buildings. Not to suggest a built colour scheme.

 

[Gramsci]

Site Allocations Development Plans are developed by the Council to supplement the Local Plan.

A fully consulted LJ Masterplan was never finished by the Council due to the argument about the Grove APG site.

So SADP is alternative.

One problem has been that the Council were unwilling to talk to local residents whilst they were formulating these two draft SADPs for LJ. Nor did local residents get given choice of which sites they wanted for a SAPD

So the only chance to comment is now when the Council have finished them.

Not a good way to did it. But we are where we are.

This draft SADP is not planning permission its drft planning guidance for the site.

I've attached the most relevant doc on the commonplace website.

Even then its written in the usual Council planning language.

On Sureways site.

From what I remember Peabody offered to relocate the church and acquire the site. This was turned down by the Church. It is a former warehouse building now a church.

It looks to me like the Council have had some contact with Peabody over this draft. As its in effect a developers charter for this site.

I can understand why this draft may cause concern.

The Higgs site was criticised as overdevelopment of that site. This draft just continues that to this adjacent site.

The height is the major issue. Whilst the draft says it will be set back to have wider pavement its right next to Coldharbour lane. This section of CHL is low rise Victorian.

Arguement put forward by Council is that this will be landmark building to announce the Railway station and centre of LJ. So its in their jargon good placemaking.

Council did say when they first mooted idea of SADPs for LJ is that they would help appropriate development in LJ. All they have done with this draft is continue the Higgs development.

Council are making this a over developed mixed use site.

Retail on bottom is fine. This part of CHL could do with more active frontages instead of ugly brick wall. Pavement widening is good proposal.

But putting church on first and second stories with flats above isn't Imo going to work.

Churches are better if located on own site. Not with residential above. Noise etc is going to be a problem.

The height is going to dominate that part of LJ as its directly next to Coldharbour lane.

I can't help feeling this draft is all about what Council officers think is best for LJ.

 

[cuppa tee]

Read the one about Sureways. Note below.

BTW the colours are just to distinguish the different buildings. Not to suggest a built colour scheme.

nothing would surprise me (re bright colours) looking at what happened at coldharbour works.

 

[JSR]

Read the one about Sureways. Note below.

BTW the colours are just to distinguish the different buildings. Not to suggest a built colour scheme.

whoops - well it was late at night when I saw it! Thanks - I kinda realised about the colours later. But true to say the Coldharbour works colours are hideous and so I'm a bit sensitive...

The Sureways development jargon is unreal: massive buildings 'announcing the station' as if 1. we didn't know about our station and 2. LJ is like St Pancras rather than a single platform reached by some steep stairs with only one train going either way. They carefully bury mention the 10 storey tower, they are so busy selling the widened pavement concept.

The Hardess Rd development is another double 10 storey building literally backing onto Wanless Rd as if it won't block all the sunlight and invade privacy of all the neighbouring terraces.

It is actually shocking

 

[JSR]

Site Allocations Development Plans are developed by the Council to supplement the Local Plan.

A fully consulted LJ Masterplan was never finished by the Council due to the argument about the Grove APG site.

So SADP is alternative.

One problem has been that the Council were unwilling to talk to local residents whilst they were formulating these two draft SADPs for LJ. Nor did local residents get given choice of which sites they wanted for a SAPD

So the only chance to comment is now when the Council have finished them.

Not a good way to did it. But we are where we are.

This draft SADP is not planning permission its drft planning guidance for the site.

I've attached the most relevant doc on the commonplace website.

Even then its written in the usual Council planning language.

On Sureways site.

From what I remember Peabody offered to relocate the church and acquire the site. This was turned down by the Church. It is a former warehouse building now a church.

It looks to me like the Council have had some contact with Peabody over this draft. As its in effect a developers charter for this site.

I can understand why this draft may cause concern.

The Higgs site was criticised as overdevelopment of that site. This draft just continues that to this adjacent site.

The height is the major issue. Whilst the draft says it will be set back to have wider pavement its right next to Coldharbour lane. This section of CHL is low rise Victorian.

Arguement put forward by Council is that this will be landmark building to announce the Railway station and centre of LJ. So its in their jargon good placemaking.

Council did say when they first mooted idea of SADPs for LJ is that they would help appropriate development in LJ. All they have done with this draft is continue the Higgs development.

Council are making this a over developed mixed use site.

Retail on bottom is fine. This part of CHL could do with more active frontages instead of ugly brick wall. Pavement widening is good proposal.

But putting church on first and second stories with flats above isn't Imo going to work.

Churches are better if located on own site. Not with residential above. Noise etc is going to be a problem.

The height is going to dominate that part of LJ as its directly next to Coldharbour lane.

I can't help feeling this draft is all about what Council officers think is best for LJ.

Could you attach the Hardess Rd document here too please, so people can see it? I don't know how to.... Thanks

 

[teuchter]

Gramsci has done a good job of explaining what this consultation is actually about and I agree with most of the points he's made.

I think the consultation website is quite badly laid out, for example there's no obvious way to get from the individual site pages back to an overview page. Anyway, to make things easier for anyone who wants to look at things and comment, here is my summary of what's relevant to LJ

Here is the overview for the whole SADPD (Site allocations development plan) which covers all of Lambeth:

Draft Site Allocations Development Plan Document

We are seeking your views on the Draft Lambeth Site Allocations Development Plan Document (SADPD), which includes proposed site-specific planning policies for 14 sites across Lambeth to guide future development.

lambethsadpd.commonplace.is

Here is a link to the draft document itself:

https://res.cloudinary.com/commonplace-digital-limited/image/upload/v1640277919/projects/lambethsadpdsite1/Appendix_1_-_Draft_Site_Allocations_DPD.pdf

Loughborough Junction is covered from page 140 onwards in that document.

There are three sites considered in Loughborough Junction:

"Site 22" which is the Wellfit St/ Hardess St site.

• consultation webpage here: Proposed Site 22
• thread about previous development proposals for this site: 29 and 20 storey tower blocks proposed for Hardess Street /Wellfit St, Loughborough Junction.

"Site 23" which is the site on the corner of Herne Hill Road and Coldharbour Lane (the Sureways church site)

• consultation webpage here: Proposed Site 23
• this site has been discussed on and off before, because at one point it looked like it might be included with the Higgs site plans but in the end it wasn't Higgs Triangle Loughborough Junction redevelopment

"Site 24" covers Kings Hospital grounds and I'd say is not so relevant to Loughborough Junction as such.
- consultation webpage here: Proposed Site 24


How to comment
The way to comment looks pretty messy to me - it seems you can comment on any section on any of the site webpages, and there's not an obvious way to make a general comment for each site. And if you look at each section on the site webpages you can't see previously made comments. To see previously made comments it looks like you have to go to the overview page and then click on the speech bubble symbol for the site you're interested in - for example you can see comments for site 22 by clicking on the speech bubble at bottom left of its section on that overview page


Links to comments made so far:

Site 22:

Proposed Site 22

1 & 3–11 Wellfit Street, 7–9 Hinton Road & Units 1–4 Hardess Street SE24

lambethsadpdsite22.commonplace.is

Site 23:

Proposed Site 23

Land at corner of Coldharbour Lane and Herne Hill Road SE24

lambethsadpdsite23.commonplace.is

(NB you can "agree" with comments already written there)

The deadline for comments is 22nd Feb.

 

[teuchter]

whoops - well it was late at night when I saw it! Thanks - I kinda realised about the colours later. But true to say the Coldharbour works colours are hideous and so I'm a bit sensitive...

The Sureways development jargon is unreal: massive buildings 'announcing the station' as if 1. we didn't know about our station and 2. LJ is like St Pancras rather than a single platform reached by some steep stairs with only one train going either way. They carefully bury mention the 10 storey tower, they are so busy selling the widened pavement concept.

The Hardess Rd development is another double 10 storey building literally backing onto Wanless Rd as if it won't block all the sunlight and invade privacy of all the neighbouring terraces.

It is actually shocking

For both of the sites, they actually describe the surrounding context of 3 or 4 storey terraces ... and then make a leap to saying that 10 storeys is somehow "beneficial" to townscape.

Unfortunately this seems to be Lambeth policy "in practice" now - you can see it all across the borough, high rise buildings looming over streets of terraces of a completely different scale.

 

[Gramsci]

Could you attach the Hardess Rd document here too please, so people can see it? I don't know how to.... Thanks

 

[Gramsci]

You can also comment by direct email,

You can respond to this consultation by following the links below or by sending an email to SADPD@lambeth.gov.uk. Comments must be received by 11pm on 22 February 2022

 

[teuchter]

Has anyone else in LJ received next to no mail for the past 5 days or so?

I think there might be something up at the Camberwell royal mail depot.

 

[ChrisSouth]

Has anyone else in LJ received next to no mail for the past 5 days or so?

I think there might be something up at the Camberwell royal mail depot.

I received about two week's worth of post on Monday, so yes, there's probably something going on

 

[Gramsci]

The LJ Neighbourhood Forum will discuss the proposed SAPDs for LJ on Wednesday,

LJ Neighbourhood Forum Wednesday 26 January at 7pm by Zoom

JSR

 

[teuchter]

I received about two week's worth of post on Monday, so yes, there's probably something going on

Well, after about 10 days of no post at all, we started getting things again in the past couple of days, many of which posted mid January.

In the meantime a flyer appeared from Herne Hill & LJ Labour councillors with a link to a survey about local royal mail issues...

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