Loughborough Junction chitter-chatter
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Tried it for lunch today; really good!I can confirm both the goodness of the food and reasonableness of the prices
CH1
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Cross posted from General Brixton History:
The website ReelStreets has an interesting view of Loughborough Junction in 1953 Bot Verification
The army vet gone to the bad Ginger Edwards is here striding away from Loughborough Junction station towards Camberwell - with Loughborough Park Congregational Chapel over the road behind him
Here is the scene today - again from ReelStreets.com who specialise in then and now still shots.
The films is "The Intruder" starring Jack Hawkins
The website ReelStreets has an interesting view of Loughborough Junction in 1953 Bot Verification
The army vet gone to the bad Ginger Edwards is here striding away from Loughborough Junction station towards Camberwell - with Loughborough Park Congregational Chapel over the road behind him
Here is the scene today - again from ReelStreets.com who specialise in then and now still shots.
The films is "The Intruder" starring Jack Hawkins
xsunnysuex
Life is a horizontal fall.
Any idea why there is police tape all around Station Avenue by Loughborough Junction station?
CH1
"Red Guard"(NLYL)
No - but in Brixton 5 Guys section of Electric Lane (ie behind the tube station) has been taped off since 1.15 pm.
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Anyone remember MDM Props? No, nor me - but they were an employer of artistic note based at the Higgs Industrial Estate - soon to be the Peabody Mortgage Misery Towers on Herne Hill Road.
As at April 2022 MDM are fit and well and purveyors of giant Slugs to the Tate Britain MDM Props Limited
Their website says "We are now in the Greenwich Peninsular" and goes on to say they are at least 20 minutes walk from any form of public transport. But MDM have retained their 274 phone number - IT lets you do that these days.
Lambeth Council have scored a big hit here then - a craft employer of manual and artistic labour forced to move out of Lambeth to a site with minimal public transport.
Meanwhile we get 160 unaffordable yuppy flats and people falling off the platforms at Loughborough Junction station in the rush hour.
People whose memory is long will possibly recall teuchter posting a photo from the train (or maybe LJ station platform) showing the mythic Tatlin's Tower for the 3rd Communist International at St Petersburg in 1921 - being reconstructed in scaled down form - by MDM Props at Higgs Estate.
I only say this because my perverse mind jumped to this as the only possible response to someone posting a truck-load of Daleks on the Facebook local history thread loosely devoted to Brixton and Stockwell.
Here is the model doing its work in the 2011/12 Royal Academy exhibition
Apparently the Tower ultimately ended up at the University of East Anglia in Norwich.
As at April 2022 MDM are fit and well and purveyors of giant Slugs to the Tate Britain MDM Props Limited
Their website says "We are now in the Greenwich Peninsular" and goes on to say they are at least 20 minutes walk from any form of public transport. But MDM have retained their 274 phone number - IT lets you do that these days.
Lambeth Council have scored a big hit here then - a craft employer of manual and artistic labour forced to move out of Lambeth to a site with minimal public transport.
Meanwhile we get 160 unaffordable yuppy flats and people falling off the platforms at Loughborough Junction station in the rush hour.
People whose memory is long will possibly recall teuchter posting a photo from the train (or maybe LJ station platform) showing the mythic Tatlin's Tower for the 3rd Communist International at St Petersburg in 1921 - being reconstructed in scaled down form - by MDM Props at Higgs Estate.
I only say this because my perverse mind jumped to this as the only possible response to someone posting a truck-load of Daleks on the Facebook local history thread loosely devoted to Brixton and Stockwell.
Here is the model doing its work in the 2011/12 Royal Academy exhibition
Apparently the Tower ultimately ended up at the University of East Anglia in Norwich.
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teuchter
je suis teuchter
Yup I remember and miss them. Always some interesting things being delivered or collected on lorries. Used to like seeing the employees sitting out along the front having their tea breaks or lunch. And they had one of the more interesting skips of south london. There are a few things in my flat made out of stuff from their skip.
I've worked with them a couple of times - they're great. One of their big competitors/peers Scena are fairly close by too in Croydon. I started my career as a scenic artist so always love it when I get a workshop visit.
Johnlj1234
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I too, remember and miss the interesting works they were loading onto trucks.
CH1
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Has anyone ever had the police tapping on their window at 11.10 pm wanting to come in and search the house - and wondering of you are OK?
It happened to me just now - and took me 20 minutes to get them to go away.
I did point out that I would have welcomed such attention a year ago when I was burgled whilst at home.
I'm still bemused by why the police received a report of "a disturbance" with only me at home.
It happened to me just now - and took me 20 minutes to get them to go away.
I did point out that I would have welcomed such attention a year ago when I was burgled whilst at home.
I'm still bemused by why the police received a report of "a disturbance" with only me at home.
CH1
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You obviously look more respectable than me. They didn't ask if I heard anything - it was "We've had reports of a disturbance - do you mind if we come in and look round?"
I know Paula over the road complained 10 or more years ago when the basement of 284 or 286 or both were in use as crack dens. They seem to be at it again if you ask me.
The moral being if you don't have all your lights on the fuzz assume you have spent all the money on crack (or drink) and have nothing for the meter so its worth a gander.
Saving energy can be suspicious!! (to a Metropolitan Police officer)
CH1
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Just went on a tour of Coldharbour Works organised by LJAG and led by a finance manager from KCH.
One startling statistic he dropped was that this was a £3.7 million project which ended up costing £17 million.
Anyone on the current mega waiting lists will appreciate the different way Kings treats it's capital projects.
We were led through an absolute maze of a building. The finiish was immaculate up to what you might expect from modern hospital premises, There is a physiotherapy treatment area with treatment room and a gym with the sort of equipment which seemed geared up to compensating for injuries. This is on the ground floor. There was further foot - related treatment upstairs.
The treatment centre has full air conditioning. The doors & windows are sealed and air processing plant is located outside the building on the Hinton Road side (the side painted like a manic sweet packet).
There are a huge amount of computer work stations in the rest of the building, and meeting rooms, open plan meeting areas.
There are areas devoted to specific research - Parkinsons, Liver, Eye I noted.
There is also a consultation area involving organ transplant where a great deal of care seems taken to provide sound proof booths for one on one consultations.
There is also a multi-faith prayer room - although we were not shown inside this. Looks like we are talking a hundred or more staff in total. Plus patients.
All in all this is light-years away from my time working in the Lambeth Mind office in this building in 1989, when it was barely fit for offices. Heating in those days was provided by weekly deliveries from Saunders Calor Gas in Landor Road. But we were happy (?!).
Kings have a link about their Coldharbour Works facility King’s provides services out of Coldharbour Works building - King's College Hospital NHS Foundation Trust
It should be noted that neither the Friendship Adventure brewery/bar nor the cafe in the building are connected with Kings College Hospital - although our guide did say the bar served good beer in his opinion.
One startling statistic he dropped was that this was a £3.7 million project which ended up costing £17 million.
Anyone on the current mega waiting lists will appreciate the different way Kings treats it's capital projects.
We were led through an absolute maze of a building. The finiish was immaculate up to what you might expect from modern hospital premises, There is a physiotherapy treatment area with treatment room and a gym with the sort of equipment which seemed geared up to compensating for injuries. This is on the ground floor. There was further foot - related treatment upstairs.
The treatment centre has full air conditioning. The doors & windows are sealed and air processing plant is located outside the building on the Hinton Road side (the side painted like a manic sweet packet).
There are a huge amount of computer work stations in the rest of the building, and meeting rooms, open plan meeting areas.
There are areas devoted to specific research - Parkinsons, Liver, Eye I noted.
There is also a consultation area involving organ transplant where a great deal of care seems taken to provide sound proof booths for one on one consultations.
There is also a multi-faith prayer room - although we were not shown inside this. Looks like we are talking a hundred or more staff in total. Plus patients.
All in all this is light-years away from my time working in the Lambeth Mind office in this building in 1989, when it was barely fit for offices. Heating in those days was provided by weekly deliveries from Saunders Calor Gas in Landor Road. But we were happy (?!).
Kings have a link about their Coldharbour Works facility King’s provides services out of Coldharbour Works building - King's College Hospital NHS Foundation Trust
It should be noted that neither the Friendship Adventure brewery/bar nor the cafe in the building are connected with Kings College Hospital - although our guide did say the bar served good beer in his opinion.
Gramsci
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Somebody on the trip told me Kings didn't want to buy the building - yet ended up spending a huge sum making it fit for their purpose.
It's a bit like when the Tories sold off all the tax offices to a company based in Bermuda (only on a much smaller scale)
Inland Revenue's property sold to company in tax haven
The Inland Revenue yesterday admitted that it sold its entire property portfolio of 600 buildings to a company based in a tax haven.
editor
hiraethified
I'm going to do a history piece based on this wonderful photo and welcome any observations I can add to the piece!
I'm guessing it's circa 1905?
And look how pleasant Loughborough House was before it was destroyed by a shit developer.
Puddy_Tat
I'm guessing it's circa 1905?
And look how pleasant Loughborough House was before it was destroyed by a shit developer.
Puddy_Tat
Puddy_Tat
naturally fluffy
oops - i've just seen the same picture on tweeter and posted it to the brixton photos thread before seeing this...
i'm going with 1908 at the earliest (that tram was built late 1908 / early 1909) and 1913 at the latest (LCC trams carried service numbers from 1912/13.) - I can possibly narrow it down further with a bit of research on exactly when that bit of tramway opened (or was electrified) and when there was a service to Victoria from there, which may or may not have been at the same time.
assuming you saw it on the same tweeter thread, there's more on the ownership of the dining rooms that may help with dates.
I'll get a few more thoughts to you some time soon.
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at the absence of 'dining rooms' from today's streetsJohnlj1234
Member
Pretty sure it would be earliest 1909 as I mentioned in the above twitter thread as you can see the tram tracks turning up Herne Hill Road and Robert J Harley in his book Camberwell & West Norwood Tramways states 1909 as the year the Loughborough Junction/West Norwood line started.
ChrisSouth
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The thing is though, Loughborough House didn't look like this immediately before the shit developer made it more shit. It's been ages since it had a pitched roof and big windows. It didn't go from the picture above, to how it looks now, in one move.
teuchter
je suis teuchter
It didn't look exactly like that but retained many of the original features, including the pitched roof. See Google streetview from 2012:
Puddy_Tat
naturally fluffy
I've done some more digging - the line down Herne Hill Road opened May 1909, and the regular service from the Camberwell direction to Victoria ended February 1910, so most likely between those dates.
Also found a few of Mr Hunt's neighbours, including the Brixton Ramblers' Bicycle Club, who had premises in the railway arches. They seem to have transmogrified in to a masonic lodge who now hang out in St James' and some of them occasionally go out riding penny farthings...
Johnlj1234
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xsunnysuex
Life is a horizontal fall.
An air ambulance landed outside my window this afternoon. Must have been this. Landed in Wyck Garden
www.mylondon.news
Thameslink trains suspended as person hit by train
Police and ambulance crews are understood to be working around the tracks
Yep it was for that - unfortunately we were on the train that hit him (was about 2pm). Just awful, particularly for the poor driver (who looked absolutely stricken).
About 8 police cars, multiple ambulances as well as the air ambulance, a fire engine and various network rail vans all turned up. We were all held on the train for about 45mins until they’d finished, then escorted out of the station.
About 8 police cars, multiple ambulances as well as the air ambulance, a fire engine and various network rail vans all turned up. We were all held on the train for about 45mins until they’d finished, then escorted out of the station.
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Had my hair cut at JayJay barbers yesterday. The barber did a good job, good price.
I like to chat to the barber but these guys (three in the shop) seemed immune to my cultural world.
A friend of mine near Tulse Hill tells me Haircut Sir? has re-opened. They were good for a chat - and they took cards, which JayJay don't. The Haircut Sir Facebook has still not been updated since January though Haircut Sir?
I like to chat to the barber but these guys (three in the shop) seemed immune to my cultural world.
A friend of mine near Tulse Hill tells me Haircut Sir? has re-opened. They were good for a chat - and they took cards, which JayJay don't. The Haircut Sir Facebook has still not been updated since January though Haircut Sir?
It’s under completely new ownership. Has had a complete refit - all the 1950s interior has gone and it’s now an ugly timber-clad affair. Rather optimistically they have gone up to five chairs. I’ve been in once - a couple of Iraqi guys there who have no link to Andy, Amber and Charlie. They did a decent enough job, but they’re charging more - £16 for a basic cut.
They’re now calling it Brixton Barber, but are also claiming to be ‘Haircut Sir, since 1977’, which is stretching the truth a little.
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