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I've edited out all of the obvious estate agent balls.
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How abojut adding a correction about the South Easterns services which also run through Loughborough Junction Station WITHOUT STOPPING?

There there are the Georgian Mansion blocks in the Geography section. I can't think of any Georgian Mansion blocks in Loughborough Junction - or Brixton for than matter.
 
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How abojut adding a correction about the South Easterns services which also run through Loughborough Junction Station WITHOUT STOPPING?
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I'm going to make some corrections to the transport section in due course :thumbs:

You're right about the Georgian mansion blocks I think... You have to go a bit east or north of LJ to find much of that description.
 
This licensing application came to my attention recently.

It is for the newly refurbished now named Coldharbour Works on corner of CHL and Shakespear road.

On of the interesting things about this application is that it shows the kafkaesque way planning and licensing work in separate silos.

The building is a KIBA site. For business use.

The applicant a smalll brewery wants a license for selling alcohol / showing films/ music/ comedy nights/ using courtyard as well.

This imo is a change of uses from business to entertainment.

The applicant put in a planning application for a taproom as ancillary to main business of brewing. Which they withdrew.

Obviously they realised as it is a KIBA site that planning might not just give it to them.

I looked at the now withdrawn planning application and it is for a taproom as ancillery to main business of brewing.

That I do not have problem with. Clarkshaw have a taproom. Closes at eight. Just to sell beers on draft or to take home.

This licensing application is to use the ground floor of site for entertainment with brewing as ancillary to main business.

So they are going down the licensing route intstead.

The site is driectly adjacent to local residential properties. Who are rightly concerned.

Applicant has refused to compromise on hours of use.

So it is going to licensing Committee.

I tried to put objection in but missed the time limit.

This is another issue. The notice for this application was put on door of Coldharbour works only. With lockdowns people will not necessarily be about to see it.

Fortunately a couple of locals saw it

Officer refuses to give any leeway on this.

Could have at least recommended some limitiations on use.

Here is bit from report about the planning situation:

Planning did not submit a view but told applicant this:

4.3 Background.

The Planning Authority didn’t make a representation in respect of the application.
However, their response, which has been sent to the applicant was that the lawful use of
the premises is for an industrial process (which can be carried out in any residential area
without causing detriment to the amenity of the area). The licensable activities applied for
do not accord with the lawful use of the premises and the applicant has been advised to
ensure that the premises is used lawfully in planning terms and either apply for extant
planning permission from the Local Planning Authority or Certificate of Lawful
Development or Use.

I give up with Lambeth sometimes. It is like banging ones head on the wall.

The report starts at page 63. In report it is still called Shakespeare business centre.
 

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There is a profile of these people here: Toby Ejsmond-Frey - Co-Founder of Friendship Adventure | Finerva

In connection with this and the other stuff going on - thinking Hondo super-tower for example, I've been wndering if editor had seen this chap's campaign.? Maybe we ought to apply for a council grant to get him over from Detroit for networking purposes to beef up the community response? Not sure what Detroit is like now, but 30 years ago it was like Railton Frontline with a motorway though the middle. And residential (white) suburbs had private armed guards - even then.

Hood closed.JPG
 
I attended the Licensing Committee ( online) re application by Friendship Brewery. See above post 3183.

Works a bit differently to Planning Committee. And better imo. Both objectors and applicant had plenty of time to put their case. Cllrs also asked questions of applicant and objectors.

It was the outside area in courtyard that the Cllrs were asking most questions about.

To cut a long story short the Committee agreed to the application without any use of courtyard. The courtyard is to be used only as a disabled persons entrance and exit.

The applicant could not show they had control of the courtyard. The smoking area was vague. The objectors had a noise expert to speak for them.

So the applicant got the use of insides with entrance/ exit on the Coldharour Lane side of the works.

I was impressed by the way the committee was chaired. Much more informal than Planning. Also no time cut off point. Decision made on the day.

Did mean the meeting ended at near 11.

The objectors performed very well.


Licensing does not deal with Planning issues. The bizarre way that planning and licensing operate in silos means that once the business starts up it will be in contravention of planning.

I await to see if the applicant tries to go for change of use.

This should not happen on a KIBA site. Which should protected for business use.
 
Temporary bus diversions on buses 35, 45 and 345 turn out not to be so temporary after all.
According to Service changes this collapsed sewer work in Gresham Road has now been extended to 6th January 2021.
People in the SW9 part of LJ will have to alight at tthe Kingdom Hall of the Jehovah's Witnesses for another 3 weeks if returning heavy laden with shopping from Camberwell. Lidl Acre Lane has now returned - and is served by the P5. Can skip stops if getting crowded though.

I wonder if the out of service bus stops have had this info put up on them?
 
For any LJ residents who are frequent users of Ruskin Park - be aware of a current application to run commercial events at the bandstand throughout this summer. There's a petition here:

www.change.org

Sign the Petition

STOP ‘Open Arms’ in Ruskin Park; 5 months/5 days a week disruption for residents and users
www.change.org www.change.org

More info here

www.urban75.net

Ruskin Park: south London park between Brixton, Camberwell and Denmark Hill

Realised I used to go here as a small kid in the late 80s for a treat or break whilst I was having treatment at one of the hospitals down the road. Enjoyed reading the thread
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Anyone have any idea why the road is closed with police tape on the corner of St James Crescent and Western Rd?
Police there also when I just went past.
Two people ducked under the tape.
Policeman made them turn back.
 
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Platform Cafe are crowd funding again. Great cause and as part of the Mayor of London's Back to Business scheme, they are eligible to receive match-funding for up to £5,000.

More details:

payitforward.london.gov.uk

The Back to Business Fund

The Back to Business Fund offers up to £10,000 in match funding to small and independent businesses through the Pay It Forward London crowdfunding platform.
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Coldharbour Lane/Belinda Road collision reduction programme

Got a flyer through the letterbox indicating work is starting on this on 19th April (2021). Which is slightly surprising as the original council report was approved by officers and reported to councillors in August/September 2019.

Seems eastbound buses will be diverted again. Almost like the three month Christmas bus stop closure in my part of Coldharbour Lane - again.

Look at this paragraph from the officers 2019 report. Lambeth planning officers refused permission for Tescos to have a cash machine a couple of years earlier. Now the traffic engineers are complaining that pedestrians cross the road from Tescos to use Loco's cash machine.

2.3 Site observations have revealed a significant pedestrian movement on Coldharbour Lane between the new Tesco Express and the cash point on the opposite side of the road; a result of the store opening. A new pedestrian desire line is evident as a conscious decision is being made to cross Coldharbour Lane at a location between two existing controlled crossing points, Loughborough junction and Belinda Road Zebra crossing .

https://www.lambeth.gov.uk/sites/de...osals - Officer Delegated Decision Report.pdf
 
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Coldharbour Lane/Belinda Road collision reduction programme

Got a flyer through the letterbox indicating work is starting on this on 19th April (2021). Which is slightly surprising as the original council report was approved by officers and reported to councillors in August/September 2019.

Seems eastbound buses will be diverted again. Almost like the three month Christmas bus stop closure in my part of Coldharbour Lane - again.

Look at this paragraph from the officers 2019 report. Lambeth planning officers refused permission for Tescos to have a cash machine a couple of years earlier. Now the traffic engineers are complaining that pedestrians cross the road from Tescos to use Loco's cash machine.

2.3 Site observations have revealed a significant pedestrian movement on Coldharbour Lane between the new Tesco Express and the cash point on the opposite side of the road; a result of the store opening. A new pedestrian desire line is evident as a conscious decision is being made to cross Coldharbour Lane at a location between two existing controlled crossing points, Loughborough junction and Belinda Road Zebra crossing .

https://www.lambeth.gov.uk/sites/default/files/Belinda Road collision reduction proposals - Officer Delegated Decision Report.pdf
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Got that flyer too.

I think it's westbound buses that are diverted. Eastbound continues to flow except on three weekends.

I note it includes a short stretch of cycle lane going northbound, linking the routes along Shakespeare Rd and Loughborough Rd.

The root problem seems to be speeding drivers rather than pedestrians wanting to cross the road.
 
I wonder about the Powerday lorries. Be interesting to know more about these accidents.
How about Police chases? There have been one of two of those in the last ten years.
 
Just been past the hero of switzerland to seen it’s all been boarded up ready for demolition! How’s longs it been like that for? And where’s everyone drinking now?

saw a lease sign on the cambria earlier also
 
bazfance said:
Just been past the hero of switzerland to seen it’s all been boarded up ready for demolition! How’s longs it been like that for? And where’s everyone drinking now?

saw a lease sign on the cambria earlier also
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The lease sign on the Cambria is very new - last couple of days. I think this is a good thing, meaning that it has the potential to be a pub again, rather than flats
 
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I've noticed that as part of what seems to be quite a heavy refurb of the 'Coldharbour Works' building (ex Shakespeare Business Centre) they have made an opening through to the yard area just off Hinton Rd (until recently there was a car wash place here). I wonder if they are going to make the building accessible from this side. If there were an ungated access from here through to the internal courtyard and then through to Shakespeare rd that would create quite a useful cut-through walking route.

I can't find any planning application relating to this though.
 
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I've noticed that as part of what seems to be quite a heavy refurb of the 'Coldharbour Works' building (ex Shakespeare Business Centre) they have made an opening through to the yard area just off Hinton Rd (until recently there was a car wash place here). I wonder if they are going to make the building accessible from this side. If there were an ungated access from here through to the internal courtyard and then through to Shakespeare rd that would create quite a useful cut-through walking route.

I can't find any planning application relating to this though.
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this looks the yard on the left between the railway bridges if you are heading towards coldharbour lane..? iirc it was a car repair business before the car wash moved in...
 
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They were nice people there, in that car wash place. they gave you a free smelly dangly tree and everything. It was used to film scenes in some ever so gritty tv drama that i can't remember now what it was called, couple of years ago.
I haven't been back to LJ for about 18 months and feel like so much will have changed already in that time it'll be very weird walking about when i do get there.
 
teuchter said:
That's right.

Still with the blue and yellow car wash tents in it, in this image:

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I know that yard quite well having had my car worked on there over quite a few years. I’m fairly confident that both the door and the little window near it are new. The guy who ran the mechanics decided to move his operation out of town after a heart attack. He told me it was sold to a properator surveyor/developer based in Brixton, think the developer got planning permission on it at some point...( edited to add the door and window are both absent in that Ariel photo)
 
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