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MrsDarlingsKiss said:
Others have made this comment on here too. But it's definitely worth making again. Just to say though it can take an awful lot of work and therapy to put right. And even seemingly 'normal' people can be really struggling on the inside but maybe not exhibit that externally...
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Yeah it can take an awful lot of work and even then it's at times impossible to put right. My ex had a really fucked up childhood, not when she was a baby but certainly under 10 :(. She's a really intelligent woman, good job, great personality etc and had loads of therapy, she really worked hard at it throughout her 20s but get a person in her life who exhibits abusive tendencies then she's like a moth to flame. Unfortunately she had a male friend like that when we were together and, well, the rest is not a particularly nice period of my history.

I hope to christ the victims in this case are too young to have been damaged too extensively by this. Probably a hope too far though :(
 
Yeh yeh. bendeus and Pickmans Model.:rolleyes: Maybe you'd like to stage your own little protest against all this??

Maybe you can start by asking anyone with a newborn baby what they think of Ian Watkins and what they would do if he went near their child. You'd probably have parents who'd want to KILL him!!

I highlighted and underlined some words not to be pompous, but to avoid anyone blowing my words wildly out of context. I had to literally spell out that in talking about castration, Im refer only to extreme monsters like Ian Watkins - that's why I advocated the creation of a grading system for paedophiles, (a few people seemed to have missed that...)

i dont give a fuck whether any of you agree or disagree with the castration of baby rapists, I dont think Ian Watkins can be saved. But even if I am proven wrong, I think for the evil and violence he has committed towards children and that baby, he deserves physical castration done onto him.

Whether any of you think this is unmerciful, well I dont care.

Im now leaving this thread.
 
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Cheesypoof said:
Yeh yeh. bendeus and Pickmans Model.:rolleyes: I would challenge you to ask anyone with a newborn what they think of Ian Watkins and if he went anywhere near their child. You'd probably have parents who'd want to KILL him!!

i dont give a fuck whether any of you agree or disagree with the castration of baby rapists, I dont think Ian Watkins can be saved. But even if I am proven wrong, I think for the evil and violence he has committed towards children and that baby, he deserves physical castration done onto him.

Whether any of you think this is unmerciful, I dont care.

Im now leaving this thread.
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It's not about mercy though is it? It's about dignity. About how we as human beings can maintain our dignity and our humanity in the face of horrible people and horrible things. Angry, vengeful violence is not going to do that. We all need to remember that There is a world of difference between justice and revenge. A need for justice can be a wonderful force for change, revenge will only ever fuck you up.

And it's not like I don't believe in the death penalty, I mean shit I got a list. But there's no way any legal system could ever be infallible and taking the risk with innocent peoples lives kind of defeats the point and there's no fucking way any government can be trusted in administer it. Yeah, lock the guy away forever, let him think, let him learn something, let him be tortured by the reality of what he's done but a violent lust for revenge is never going to change anything for the better with it we will just create a more brutal, more fucked up, more traumatised world and that isn't going to do anyone any good.
 
Cheesypoof said:
Yeh yeh. bendeus and Pickmans Model.:rolleyes: Maybe you'd like to stage your own little protest against all this??

Maybe you can start by asking anyone with a newborn baby what they think of Ian Watkins and what they would do if he went near their child. You'd probably have parents who'd want to KILL him!!

I highlighted and underlined some words not to be pompous, but to avoid anyone blowing my words wildly out of context. I had to literally spell out that in talking about castration, Im refer only to extreme monsters like Ian Watkins - that's why I advocated the creation of a grading system for paedophiles, (a few people seemed to have missed that...)

i dont give a fuck whether any of you agree or disagree with the castration of baby rapists, I dont think Ian Watkins can be saved. But even if I am proven wrong, I think for the evil and violence he has committed towards children and that baby, he deserves physical castration done onto him.

Whether any of you think this is unmerciful, well I dont care.

Im now leaving this thread.
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I have a newborn, and ('speaking as a parent') I don't want us as a society to sink to the level of its nastiest, most dangerous members.

Partly because I think it degrades us, and partly because I think it gives us a false sense of security- as many people have pointed out, you don't need a penis to hurt a child.
 
Also it might lead to a drop in the number of child abuse cases being reported, if it's someone's mum or dad that's abusing them they will feel bad enough if they end up sending them to prison, let alone getting them killed.
 
Cheesypoof said:
Yeh yeh. bendeus and Pickmans Model.:rolleyes: Maybe you'd like to stage your own little protest against all this??

Maybe you can start by asking anyone with a newborn baby what they think of Ian Watkins and what they would do if he went near their child. You'd probably have parents who'd want to KILL him!!

I highlighted and underlined some words not to be pompous, but to avoid anyone blowing my words wildly out of context. I had to literally spell out that in talking about castration, Im refer only to extreme monsters like Ian Watkins - that's why I advocated the creation of a grading system for paedophiles, (a few people seemed to have missed that...)

i dont give a fuck whether any of you agree or disagree with the castration of baby rapists, I dont think Ian Watkins can be saved. But even if I am proven wrong, I think for the evil and violence he has committed towards children and that baby, he deserves physical castration done onto him.

Whether any of you think this is unmerciful, well I dont care.

Im now leaving this thread.
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I have a 18-month-old and a five year old.

Your argument is still daft.
 
Cheesypoof said:
didnt read that - i propose castration for BABY RAPISTS and if you think that is queer, well you are the fucked up one.
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your post #605 is fairly clear:
Cheesypoof said:
I also recommend FULL castration to turn ALL convicted paeodophiles into eunuchs.
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"ALL convicted paedophiles" is a rather broader category than "BABY RAPISTS". i ask again: what punishment would you apply to female paedophiles, including - but not limited to - female baby rapists.
 
Why stop at the paedophiles themselves? why not take a leaf out of North Korea's book to root out the criminal seed. Their parents probably had a part in making them the way they are and their kids will probably grow up to nonces as well, and their friends and neighbours, well they probably all knew about it but didn't want to say. Send them off to the camps along with any other children they have (who are "ruined" now so there's no point in letting them back into society).
 
Cheesypoof said:
i propose castration for baby rapists, that is all. There are MANY i have mercy for, but you have to have boundaries somewhere - baby rapists crosses the line. i think that is reasonable.

thats all.
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I don't think your position is at all reasonable - you are seeking violent retribution, reducing society to the level of the worst of its members, rather than dealing with things in a more humane and dignified way. I'd much rather live in the UK with our however flawed justice system, than some backward hell hole where they lop off bits of people's bodies for whatever offence they may have committed.

I just hope you declare your views if you are ever called for jury service, as I'd say you aren't fit to fulfil such a role holding such unpleasant views.
 
frogwoman said:
Why stop at the paedophiles themselves? why not take a leaf out of North Korea's book to root out the criminal seed. Their parents probably had a part in making them the way they are and their kids will probably grow up to nonces as well, and their friends and neighbours, well they probably all knew about it but didn't want to say. Send them off to the camps along with any other children they have (who are "ruined" now so there's no point in letting them back into society).
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