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London: the unlockening/relockening

even if it makes little difference to the number of vehicles on the road, it'll raise money for TfL. this was imposed as part of the bailout for their current budget problem after all.
since the congestion charge has been frozen since 2014 an uplift is overdue anyway.
 
The more traffic there is, the slower it is. The slower it is, the safer it is on a bike.

Actually I don't agree with that....if the road is congested, cars aggressively block cyclists' access to e.g. cycle boxes by the lights, and cyclists are at more risk from large vehicles. Think about what you're saying for even 30 seconds, and you'll see if doesn't make any sense.
 
Anyone who actually lives in London will have noticed during lockdown, when there was loads less traffic on the roads, that there were a lot more people out cycling, and that a lot of those people weren't the "usual" London commuter cyclists, they were families with young kids or just people ambling around on rental bikes. People feel safer when there is less traffic. Without wanting to kick off a massive cycling debate on this thread, how much safer they actually are is to some extent moot, if the aim is to encourage more people to cycle instead of using other modes.
 
Actually I don't agree with that....if the road is congested, cars aggressively block cyclists' access to e.g. cycle boxes by the lights, and cyclists are at more risk from large vehicles. Think about what you're saying for even 30 seconds, and you'll see if doesn't make any sense.
In my time I have been to hospital once a year on average as a result of a collision with a car. Would I rather be hit by a car doing 10 MPH or 30MPH...theres no comparison....
 
Some comment on public transport risks


If you werent already anxious about commuting on the tube you are a bloody idiot.

Its a fucking nightmare in summer and crowded to fuck in the mornings. Its enough to make anyone anxious even without Covid.
 
Almost left the London area for the summer, I'm in Apsley, although the canalside pub is still closed enterprising locals are sitting outside with tinnies - it's got an outside verandah area which is weatherproof. Hoping the pubs open up for outside service by the time we get to the Midlands.
 
Today it seemed like there was suddenly loads of traffic back on the roads - weekdays have been getting busier for a while but weekends have remained relatively quiet.

This evening quite a lot of people out and about. All outdoors - parks, outside pubs, peoples gardens, but a lot of people in quite big groups and folk sort of dressed up saturday night ish, which has not been happening very much for the past few months. And the streets no longer feel empty after dark.
 
I had to go into the office at London Bridge today. I went off peak and trains bith ways were quiet, but only half of the passengers wearing masks.

It was nice to see Borough High Street with the pavements widened, something I think should have been done a long time ago and I hope it stays like that.

Found it strange that the Kings Head pub is doing 'takeaways' but giving people real glasses so that basically everyone hangs out outside just like they used to. Glad we have a great BID round there and so they are clearing and washing the cobbles regularly as I am sure people (men) are just using the pub like they normally would but pissing up the walls instead of using the toilet inside.
 
It was nice to see Borough High Street with the pavements widened, something I think should have been done a long time ago and I hope it stays like that.

Found it strange that the Kings Head pub is doing 'takeaways' but giving people real glasses so that basically everyone hangs out outside just like they used to. Glad we have a great BID round there and so they are clearing and washing the cobbles regularly as I am sure people (men) are just using the pub like they normally would but pissing up the walls instead of using the toilet inside.

The above would once all have been local news to me, thanks! :)

The widened pavements on Borough High Street sound great :cool:

Actual glass pint glasses at the Kings sound unbelievable! :eek:

For badly behaved male pissers though ( :mad: ), at least there'll be OK outside jakes at The George! ;)
(which looks much more Greene King-dominated than back in the day, mind you :hmm: )
 
The above would once all have been local news to me, thanks! :)

The widened pavements on Borough High Street sound great :cool:

Actual glass pint glasses at the Kings sound unbelievable! :eek:

For badly behaved male pissers though ( :mad: ), at least there'll be OK outside jakes at The George! ;)
(which looks much more Greene King-dominated than back in the day, mind you :hmm: )
Yeah, I reckon the George and the Heeltap will put some outside loos in when they open. Although I doubt the social distancing will be kept to on the benches.
 
The almost total absence of traffic wardens during the lockdown in London has been glorious. I hope they will give some kind of warning before they start patrolling again.

No warning in Croydon that suspended parking restrictions had been lifted. I had to search quite hard to find it on the council website. When in was out for a stroll last week, absolutely loads of cars were slapped with tickets.
 
No warning in Croydon that suspended parking restrictions had been lifted. I had to search quite hard to find it on the council website. When in was out for a stroll last week, absolutely loads of cars were slapped with tickets.

They've back out in our borough since the start of May.

It was striking yesterday how much traffic has returned to the roads. Lines of stationary cars in many places.

Yes, I was called to site yesterday and had to do a drive from SW London to Muswell Hill area. The traffic was free flowing most of the way but there were traffic jams beginning to form.

There seems to be a lot more trains running past my flat as well. Feels like not far off pre-lockdown service except they all appear to be virtually empty.
 
It was striking yesterday how much traffic has returned to the roads. Lines of stationary cars in many places.
On my commute route are a couple of those electronic traffic signs you see by the side of the roads. They’re still displaying ‘Essential Travel Only’ as the default message. I was tempted to get off my bike yesterday to take a picture of the bumper to bumper traffic on The Avenue (the road that goes through Clapham Common) as it crawled past said sign, but it’s not possible to stop there. In any event, nobody is observing the rule anymore, and haven’t done so for several weeks, at last as ‘short distance’ trips are concerned.
 
Traffic on my street is definitely heavier than normal. I reckon it's because those who have a car and can use it to get to work are doing so to avoid public transport, people are making trips in cars that they would normally do on public transport (I've been guilty of doing this once to visit a friend), people who food shopped daily are now shopping weekly/fortnightly and with supermarket delivery slots still difficult to get, people are driving to the supermarkets (again - guilty - although I'm also shopping for other people who can't get out and couldn't carry all that spam in my rucksack...) PLUS many people are still on furlough and decide to take the car out for a spin. After the peace, clean air and quiet of lockdown, it's pretty annoying, esp when they start shouting and honking their horns coz they can't be arsed to wait for a vehicle to pass.

ETA - the next trip to see my friend will be on public transport - I'm looking at the least worst options - and figure I have to start using at some point, so just take precautions and get on with it.
 
It was striking yesterday how much traffic has returned to the roads. Lines of stationary cars in many places.
my impression is traffic is worse (yesterday) than pre-Covid....I can only guess because people are avoiding public transport on top of everything else
 
Not surprising tbh. It's only going to take a very small proportion of the people who'd normally use public transport to switch to driving to create way more traffic. London isn't really able to accommodate a switch to private cars in any numbers as it's such a massively inefficient use of space.
 
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