Liz Truss’s time is up

[Rob Ray]

Which just makes all these 'Partridge' snarks look pathetic. I've listened to a couple of these local BBC interviews and they've skewered Truss brilliantly and held her to account which is what good journalists should do.

It's a classic demonstration of Chomsky's observations in Manufacturing Consent. The senior political class is generally insulated from the toughest questioning because they only tend to show up on the biggest shows. Andrew Marr's interviews for example tread a line between sounding combative and pulling punches so he can continue having a stream of high-level, high prestige interviewees. Fail to toe that line and you end up, as Piers Morgan did, with no-one wanting to show up on your programme to get hammered.

Regional shows don't have this problem because they're not expected to have the top brass on very often, or at all. Their interviewees are mostly backbenchers who actively need to be on one of the rare outlets that can directly reach constituents. Therefore they get more from showing their interviewing mettle than from playing nice. Add this to the arrogant dismissal of "bumpkins from the regions" that infects almost all ministers of the crown after years of power broking in That London and it's a good recipe for this to happen. They expect they can outsmart stupid and overawed hacks, whereas in fact they're often unprepared to deal with angry and direct journalists.

 

[Wilf]

Yes, tory membership is what I said. But who handed the tory membership the power to choose the next PM? It was anyone who took part in taking Boris Johnson down.

You are parroting the very words that boris johnson himself will have been coming out with over the last week. Well done!

 

[izz]

She was one of their two choices. Mp’s are partly to blame. Not that they had a wealth of high quality candidates to choose from.

'Zackly this, there was a brilliant quote from the Economist about how the Tories had to choose between someone that couldn't find her way out of a conference room and a chap that had trouble using his bank card at a filling station.

 

[Petcha]

Only just catching up on this. It's hilarious. Her press team must actually hate her to put her on local radio to attempt to explain why she's decided to bring down the UK economy. Toe curling.

 

[contadino]

Yes, tory membership is what I said. But who handed the tory membership the power to choose the next PM? It was anyone who took part in taking Boris Johnson down.

No you didn't. The party membership weren't the ones who got shot of Johnson, it was tory mps (and only when there really was no alternative but to do something.)

By all means be a tory apologist - it's funny - but at least try to have a coherent story.

 

[Petcha]

dp

 

[teuchter]

Sounds like we should give up all this protesting and stuff and just hope our leaders are of the 'only a bit nasty' variety.

Nah, just make some pragmatic decisions based on reality, which often means choosing the least bad of a set of bad options.

Ignoring reality and indulging one's own ideological fantasies is what leads to Lexit thinking and the idea that it's best not to vote at all in general elections because all the parties are the same.

No need to give up any protesting stuff.

 

[Rob Ray]

pragmatic decisions based on reality

The rhetorical lodestone and demonstrable nonsense-in-practice of the Tory party in a nutshell. "I'm making a pragmatic decision based on reality" says the Tory, as they drill another hole in the ship's hull.

 

[gosub]

Only just catching up on this. It's hilarious. Her press team must actually hate her to put her on local radio to attempt to explain why she's decided to bring down the UK economy. Toe curling.

Sounds like it...can spin it as don't worry it's provincial, but they know darn well the lobby is the lobby and if they overstep the mark then they are lobby journalists no more. What's a local radio journalist got to lose? Only the chance of missing the soundbite that could progress their career

 

[Wilf]

Nah, just make some pragmatic decisions based on reality, which often means choosing the least bad of a set of bad options.

Ignoring reality and indulging one's own ideological fantasies is what leads to Lexit thinking and the idea that it's best not to vote at all in general elections because all the parties are the same.

No need to give up any protesting stuff.

How does this work then, if we stick to the specifics of johnson's demise? Protest about the policy stuff but don't say a word about the parties and corruption? The very stuff that did for johnson was the same stuff that has trashed the tory brand, so much so that even a cardboard cutout Labour leader is ahead in the polls.

 

[Raheem]

Only just catching up on this. It's hilarious. Her press team must actually hate her to put her on local radio to attempt to explain why she's decided to bring down the UK economy. Toe curling.

She had to do something other than pretending she's forgotten she's prime minister, and I expect she looks to knackered to go on TV. Which would have left them with no good options, really

 

[Pickman's model]

I reckon truss is a putin bot, put in place many years ago to sabotage the UK in event of just the sort of situation we now face

 

[Wilf]

SI expect she looks to knackered to go on TV.

She should go on This Morning with Holly and Phil, they could all have a giggle comparing the week they've had.

 

[Jeff Robinson]

 

[Artaxerxes]

Nah, just make some pragmatic decisions based on reality, which often means choosing the least bad of a set of bad options.

Ignoring reality and indulging one's own ideological fantasies is what leads to Lexit thinking and the idea that it's best not to vote at all in general elections because all the parties are the same.

No need to give up any protesting stuff.

Protests will continue until cunts improve

 

[Bingoman]

Just listened to some snippets of her radio interviews, blimey not good

 

[gosub]

could be morse code

 

[Part 2]

She had to do something other than pretending she's forgotten she's prime minister, and I expect she looks to knackered to go on TV. Which would have left them with no good options, really

Fuck knows what she must've looked like struggling to respond by the later interviews. It actually sounds like she was laughing on radio Tees.

 

[Storm Fox]

Even Dan Snow is taking the piss.

 

[Bingoman]

Fuck knows what she must've looked like struggling to respond by the later interviews. It actually sounds like she was laughing on radio Tees.

I love to see her conference speech next week, it would be painful to watch I think

 

[Monkeygrinder's Organ]

Even Dan Snow is taking the piss.

At least King John had some real problems to deal with rather than just his own fuckups.

 

[Petcha]

It really is quite a massive achievement to make Boris Johnson look like a safe pair of hands

 

[killer b]

aha - apparently the local media round is an annual thing the prime minister does before conference each year rather than a rake-standing exercise by team truss.

 

[Wilf]

Parliamentary democracy ain't exactly my thing, but this is a good example how it can deliver ideological leaders who are lined up with just about nobody in the country. In their attempt at pandering to people with wealth, they've alienated just about everyone. The beauty of it is, that not all the rises in mortgage payments are due to the mini-budget, but people will now see it as the fault of Kwarteng/Truss. Well, beauty, yeah, but also a further tidal wave of shit for all kinds of people who have been struggling on multiple fronts already.

 

[killer b]

I mean obvious she stood on every rake laid out in front of her once she was on the round, but the booking of the interviews themselves weren't in error

 

[Part 2]

Fuck knows what she must've looked like struggling to respond by the later interviews. It actually sounds like she was laughing on radio Tees.

Blimey, by Bristol she is laughing.

 

[Wilf]

aha - apparently the local media round is an annual thing the prime minister does before conference each year rather than a rake-standing exercise by team truss.

I heard this morning they used to do it on the very eve of the conference. But it was this that fucked Thersa May's voice t'other year, which is why they do it a few days before. To be fair though, Truss didn't put too much strain on her voice today, with more silences than the combined plays of Becket and Pinter.

 

[Monkeygrinder's Organ]

Even if it's a tradition she could have chosen not to do them couldn't she. She's already breaking with other traditions like not smashing the entire economy to bits in your second week in charge so I'm sure she could get away with swerving Radio Leeds.

 

[Artaxerxes]

Blimey, by Bristol she is laughing.

It’s panic and despair.

I don’t like to use the term hysteria because it’s loaded with sexist history against women in authority and women in general but it’s the fury of the onslaught has clearly punched out of anxiety and into the land of giggles and smiles because she’s so out of depth

 

[two sheds]

Far-reaching, in-depth interviews

that aged well