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Liz Truss’s time is up

Hang in there Liz, I believe in you
Despite the ominshambles, permanent crisis in the party and the rest, if the tories end up with some combination of sunak/cunt or that defence bloke, I'd put Labour's chances of winning next time as little more 55-60% . Kieth is just... nothing, and Labour hasn't really got a narrative or connection with voters. I do think the tories are done for, because their only way forward is another leadership process, which itself should be fatal. But ultimately, sunak/cunt/that other bloke will still be fighting a timid empty suit.
 
I think boring suit with no big ideas and some normal hair might be just what a lot of people want tbh, after the scary clown show of the last whatever many years, the next election might be a competition like ‘vote for me I’m the boringest sensiblest & least ideological’. Idk.
It would be comforting to think that, but I worry the clown show will continue because enough people have come to actually want a 'character' over a pro.
 
Hahaha. Conservative home, no less. How much longer can she last?


Fuck these people. I hate the way soundbites, glib statements and opinions a are elevated to a political philosophy. Trussenomics consisting of: Cut tax >>> growth.
 
I think boring suit with no big ideas and some normal hair might be just what a lot of people want tbh, after the scary clown show of the last whatever many years, the next election might be a competition like ‘vote for me I’m the boringest sensiblest & least ideological’. Idk.
looks like it'll be a choice between two suits but whoever it is who wins will have a rammed intray of crisis, growing impoverishment etc so cant see technocratic managerial boddism having a long honey moon period...the inability to improve peoples lives or deal with what needs dealing with will remain constant
 
I think boring suit with no big ideas and some normal hair might be just what a lot of people want tbh, after the scary clown show of the last whatever many years, the next election might be a competition like ‘vote for me I’m the boringest sensiblest & least ideological’. Idk.

Well I want the green new deal stuff and GBE, renationlising the rail franchises as they come up for renewal at least. Otherwise why bother.
 
i live in a place thats just voted conservative regardless of whats going on since the day it was born, so am slightly curious to sit on my sofa & see what they'll do next time, maybe it'll just be an extremely low turnout idk.
 
i live in a place thats just voted conservative regardless of whats going on since the day it was born, so am slightly curious to sit on my sofa & see what they'll do next time, maybe it'll just be an extremely low turnout idk.

dunno - may depend on what extent there's tactical voting - may be lib dem gains at some seats in the 'home counties' if the chesham + amersham by-election type of vote happens again

although people are more inclined either not to bother, or to register a 'protest vote' in by-elections and to some extent in council elections (and in the past euro elections) than in general elections. i'm not sure the tories were any more popular in 1997 than they had been in 1993, but some previously solid tory shire councils went non-tory in 1993, but went back tory in 1997 (despite the national labour landslide) when turnout was higher (from memory, buckinghamshire was the only tory majority controlled english shire county from 1993-1997, others like kent, surrey and lincolnshire went tory again in 1997, others took a bit longer.)

or whether the smart suit and haircut / posh-ish starmer is toryish enough for previously tory voters to vote labour.
 
Sky News have said Ben Wallace via Senior Defence sources has said that MPs now need to stop the plotting against Truss

So it appears he does not want the top job
 
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