butchersapron
Bring back hanging
How does pointing out that this friend (one for every situation and occasion isn't there?) not signing on help you understand?
Living off the land 100%
- Thread starter Stanley Edwards
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not-bono-ever
meh
Stan is well aware of the impact of these meandering posts of his. He may not have top troll skillz but is well enough versed to ensure that even after he #ragequits, his input is still being discussed. maybe it is a planned art happening that we fall for. maybe not. Plenty of previous on the boards.
TruXta
tired
I probably didn't express myself very well. The point about Stanley not having a fixed abode is that he doesn't deserve sympathy for that because it's his choice. The point about him deserving all the shit we give him is separate from that. But I could have worded that better so thanks for the prod.
Idaho
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One of the less palatable and more difficult to discuss elements of bullying is that the victim can sometimes have a role in it. They are sometimes people who just don't get along easily with the group. They assume a position of authority or status in a group that is not agreed/approved by others. On urban there are a few group consensus policemen who will try and enforce this. They will hound people who combine having views contrary to the consensus that are also prolific posters.
So having contrary views in itself isn't a problem. Having contrary views and being a prolific poster is much more of a problem. Having both of these plus being dogged and not giving any ground or credit to the consensus police creates this kind of roving continual bullying.
There is no doubt that Stanley is a queer duck, and most urban posters are shocked by the targeted abuse he gets as they only occasionally dip into the odd post. Johnny Cannuck used to get similar grief. Not sure if he still does.
So having contrary views in itself isn't a problem. Having contrary views and being a prolific poster is much more of a problem. Having both of these plus being dogged and not giving any ground or credit to the consensus police creates this kind of roving continual bullying.
There is no doubt that Stanley is a queer duck, and most urban posters are shocked by the targeted abuse he gets as they only occasionally dip into the odd post. Johnny Cannuck used to get similar grief. Not sure if he still does.
butchersapron
Bring back hanging
Idaho hath spake - in balanced non-abusive way he's called very one but him a cunt.
neonwilderness
What would Badgers do?
This is all well and good, but what did Stanley steal forage for his tea last night? 
Not knowing much about all this I don't think I've ever seen more of a vicious round of concerted bullying online. Pretty pathetic really. Stan seems to enjoy a quite interesting life unlike the vast majority of people on this site (I'd wager). He's made mistakes along the way - like all of us - he just seems to share those more than most.
Live and let live. If your lives are that shit that you need to spend 22 pages mocking the life choices of someone else I'd be taking a long look at myself not this guy.
TruXta
tired
You do realise he's been playing this same old tune for nearly a decade now? Why the fuck do noobs like you think they know exactly what is going on?
chilango
Hypothetical Wanker
I've not (knowingly) mocked Stanley's life choices.
What I have mocked, and would again, is his portrayal of these (and associated adventures) as being above, or better, than everybody else's.
This thread is a perfect example of that.
"Living off the land" and some great trek...that we're all jealous of because we couldn't do?
It's bollocks isn't it?
That deserves a bit of pisstaking.
When he gets nasty in response, it escalates.
Chuck in some of his posting history here, the things he's said and the things he's said he's done, and the fact that it's remembered, and well, here we are.
What I have mocked, and would again, is his portrayal of these (and associated adventures) as being above, or better, than everybody else's.
This thread is a perfect example of that.
"Living off the land" and some great trek...that we're all jealous of because we couldn't do?
It's bollocks isn't it?
That deserves a bit of pisstaking.When he gets nasty in response, it escalates.
Chuck in some of his posting history here, the things he's said and the things he's said he's done, and the fact that it's remembered, and well, here we are.
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kebabking
Not a Girly Swot, but I like them....
Stan gets shit because he's a predator - he steals from subsistence farmers, he is a sexual predator who takes advantage of, and abuses, those lost souls - always much, much younger lost souls - who are traveling the world looking for themselves and who think they have met a Bohemian artiste who has walked away from the cares of the world.
He is a nasty, nasty piece of work - he's an itinerant who is off grid not because he's a art spirit flowing in the wind, but because it allows him to avoid the consequences of his actions.
People mock him because of his delusional fantasy - but they dislike him because no one would want their children going within a thousand miles of the seedy, vile creature.
*Applause*
not-bono-ever
meh
BTW, if It was brought to my attention that the shite that is being posting in this thread is being taken as bullying by the recipient, I would be utterly utterly horrified.
Idaho
blah blah blah
We are all cunts butchersapron. Myself, and yourself, very much included.
butchersapron
Bring back hanging
You're not - you're a free floating crypto-numismatik - well above all these consensus police. In fact, your very existence is proof of the post-consensus version of reality.
50 minutes ffs
This really is the essence of bollocks. Stanley is more than a "queer duck". kebabking summed it up perfectly. He's a predator, and he's a delusional fantasist. Any grief he gets for the latter is heavily amplified by the knowledge that he is the former.
One common theme in these threads is well-meaning individuals that have not much been exposed to Stan's dark sides assuming that the responses he gets are driven by jealousy (!lol!) or reactionarism. Most of these people eventually end up realising just how unpleasant he actually is (not least when they are linked to his old statements) and change their tune. Others carry on defending him anyway, and those people normally reveal themselves in the end as also being deeply unpleasant. Either way, there is a always a fresh load of naive individuals ready to pile in to his defence in his next pro forma thread.
Idaho
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You should keep it simple butchersapron. When you post this abstract stuff, I have no idea whether it's compliment, insult or random musings.
I'll help you: he's insulting you.
Idaho
blah blah blah
I have to confess that I don't really read his threads that much. They just seem to be pages and pages of mockery. So perhaps the hounding of him is justified.
Idaho
blah blah blah
I'm just not feeling it. It's like being called a algorithmic unicorn or something. I have no idea what it all meant.
There you go. Seems you can admit after all that you don't actually know what you are talking about in this case.
Yes, the "hounding" of him (if that's how you want to classify people calling him on his shit) is completely justified.
He's saying that your attempt at moral neutrality is itself a moral stance. Your non-judgement is judgement. And the side you are choosing to judge speaks volumes about your morality.
weltweit
Well-Known Member
No it isn't. The hounding of Stan is every bit as distasteful as anything he has done himself.
Hounding people from a position of numeric advantage is never pleasant and the people doing it, including you, derive a certain satisfaction from their hangers on which adds to the general unpleasentness of the ganging up.
Look at me I am better than you Stan and I disapprove, no I very much doubt you are, look at me I agree with you hounding Stan but will only like your posts because I don't want to stick my nose above the parapet.
weltweit
Well-Known Member
get off the fence why don't ya!
You're the worst small-minded Daily-Mail-come-to-life of the lot, so you really can fuck right off.
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
kabbes would, I think, object to me being a hanger on of his or he of me.
weltweit
Well-Known Member
The vast majority of what Stan posts is harmless, art, the details of his life, his travels and a lot of people are prepared to give him the benefit of the doubt and interact on these subjects when they crop up. As am I.
However there are also many who bear a grudge and take the piss as soon as possible, yes Stan had an altercation with a downs girl that didn't show him in the best light, get over it. Yes stan uttered wrong words from time to time, yes Stan has been unlucky in relationships and had an odd way of dealing with it.
But to attack and revel in the attacks on him, is also unpleasant.
I know someone who claims to be a very tolerant person, they claim they are very tolerant of others, except I know that they are in fact very intolerant of intolerant people! Way to go!
However there are also many who bear a grudge and take the piss as soon as possible, yes Stan had an altercation with a downs girl that didn't show him in the best light, get over it. Yes stan uttered wrong words from time to time, yes Stan has been unlucky in relationships and had an odd way of dealing with it.
But to attack and revel in the attacks on him, is also unpleasant.
I know someone who claims to be a very tolerant person, they claim they are very tolerant of others, except I know that they are in fact very intolerant of intolerant people! Way to go!
weltweit
Well-Known Member
About hangers on.
Someone has a go at a weaker poster.
The hangers on like the post, yay you told em, I wouldn't have the guts to say it myself but I will like your post and endorse the sentiments.
They are very noticeable, across many threads, and against many posters, perhaps not as deeply unpleasant as those actually turning the knife, but unpleasant enough to be noticed.
Your names are on the list!
Someone has a go at a weaker poster.
The hangers on like the post, yay you told em, I wouldn't have the guts to say it myself but I will like your post and endorse the sentiments.
They are very noticeable, across many threads, and against many posters, perhaps not as deeply unpleasant as those actually turning the knife, but unpleasant enough to be noticed.
Your names are on the list!
