Living off the land 100%

[Idaho]

What kind?

I don't know. I suppose it would be a kind of insult to call someone autistic.

 

[Idaho]

I'm not flirting

You've got the horn though. This is your favourite kind of thread. You and butchersapron, hand in hand. Cid pottering along behind, yapping merrily.

 

[Cid]

I don't know. I suppose it would be a kind of insult to call someone autistic.

You use it when you think someone is incapable of understanding human emotion. In your pseud framework it's probably an intelligent comment, to everyone else it's... Well it's kind of an insult because it's hard for someone who isn't thick as pigshit to see the word 'autistic' as an insult. But you are clearly using it as one.

 

[xenon]

Poor Stanley. Imagine, to be judged, challenged, perhaps even sometimes mocked, on words you've written over the years. Anicdotes you've gone out of your way to share, some of which show you in a bad light.

It's so unfair people should read and react. A travesty in fact. The jellous crowd. Hang thy heads

 

[Idaho]

You use it when you think someone is incapable on understanding human emotion. In your pseud framework it's probably an intelligent comment, to everyone else it's... Well it's kind of an insult because it's hard for someone who isn't thick as pigshit to see the word 'autistic' as an insult. But you are clearly using it as one.

So you are saying that you don't see the word as an insult, and I don't see it as an insult.. But it's an insult?

 

[Corax]

About hangers on.

Someone has a go at a weaker poster.

The hangers on like the post, yay you told em, I wouldn't have the guts to say it myself but I will like your post and endorse the sentiments.

They are very noticeable, across many threads, and against many posters, perhaps not as deeply unpleasant as those actually turning the knife, but unpleasant enough to be noticed.

Your names are on the list!

Or...

About hangers on.

Someone has a go at an unpleasant poster.

The hangers on like the post, yay you told em, I know I don't have the erudition to express it well, but you've encapsulated my feelings on the matter too.

--- that's not necessarily cowardice, but awareness of their own limitations when it comes to online discussion. I'd far rather this than dozens of posts struggling and failing to say what others are capable of expressing better.

 

[not-bono-ever]

well done Stan, another winning thread.

*shakes fist at Portugal*

 

[LiamO]

You're the worst small-minded Daily-Mail-come-to-life of the lot, so you really can fuck right off.

So if his (Daily Mail) position is more liberal/enlightened/human/empathetic than yours, where does that leave you?

 

[Cid]

So you are saying that you don't see the word as an insult, and I don't see it as an insult.. But it's an insult?

Tbh the only person that needs this explained to them is you, and I can't be arsed.

 

[Treacle Toes]

Stan will absolutely love that his thread is already 26 pages. He won't read more than a handful of posts, he'll tell a few people to fuck off and then he'll revel and troll by saying people are jealous. If we are lucky he will also post up a hugely embellished story about his adventures.

 

[Pickman's model]

You've got the horn though. This is your favourite kind of thread. You and butchersapron, hand in hand. Cid pottering along behind, yapping merrily.

No, my favourite kind of thread is one where people pull together to help someone with a problem.

If you were in any sense neutral you would have pointed out to Stan stealing - he uses the word - is generally considered immoral. But you're not neutral, you prefer defending creeps like Stan tho fuck knows what he's done to deserve you weighing in on his side

 

[Pickman's model]

well done Stan, another winning thread.

*shakes fist at Portugal*

(((((Portugal)))))

 

[Corax]

I get that there's loads of things people don't like about Stanley Edwards and that he brings a lot of this circus on himself but imo the relentless piss-taking about his use of alcohol is pretty shit.
Same with the attitude towards him for not having a permanent place to live . Those are rubbish things to choose to attack someone for i think.

I'd agree if Stan was like many on here, someone who struggles with his alcohol use. There are plenty of alcoholics on here. Some still in the throes of it but wanting out, some who have managed to achieve a long stable sobriety now, and some like me that are on their way from one to the other, with the odd painful lapse along the way. Not once have I seen anyone take the piss out of them (us) for it. Quite the opposite.

Stan doesn't fall into any of these groups though, he wears it with pride, a badge of the boho hobo (bohobo?) artist.

I understand that. I used to look at my ridiculous consumption as somehow Byronesque, as did many recovering alcoholics. It *may* actually have been helpful if someone had laughed in my face at my delusions about it at some point tbh.

 

[Corax]

So you are saying that you don't see the word as an insult, and I don't see it as an insult.. But it's an insult?

That you need to ask just shows you up as the algorithmic unicorn you really are.

 

[Pickman's model]

I'd agree if Stan was like many on here, someone who struggles with his alcohol use. There are plenty of alcoholics on here. Some still in the throes of it but wanting out, some who have managed to achieve a long stable sobriety now, and some like me that are on their way from one to the other, with the odd painful lapse along the way. Not once have I seen anyone take the piss out of them (us) for it. Quite the opposite.

Stan doesn't fall into any of these groups though, he wears it with pride, a badge of the boho hobo (bohobo?) artist.

I understand that. I used to look at my ridiculous consumption as somehow Byronesque, as did many recovering alcoholics. It *may* actually have been helpful if someone had laughed in my face at my delusions about it at some point tbh.

If you read his blog, back in 2008 he says he's budgeting for a bottle of Rioja a day, in his core expenditure. As you say, he revels in it

 

[xenon]

I think you've got the chronology mixed up. A judge, for example, starts any assessment of a case as neutral. At this point they are making a decision to be neutral. They are not deciding in advance of seeing the evidence on the final judgement.

You are judging though you berk. Judging the posters who've had a go at Stan. And Without having read his previous declarations.

"Did he really beat up a girl with downs syndrome?"

Why don't you read the thread. Just the first post will do.

 

[kebabking]

The thread about enjoying 14yo girls wearing denim shorts was a particular favourite of mine.

What a jolly chap I thought...

 

[ElizabethofYork]

well done Stan, another winning thread.

*shakes fist at Portugal*

I'm only still here because I want to know what Stan had for tea yesterday.

 

[bimble]

Just to clarify I wasn't suggesting Stanley Edwards is a nice / good person or anything like that,personally I just think he's a twit and can't get worked up about the moral failings of some bloke I'll never meet.
But taking the piss out of him for being an alcoholic and a "tramp" thats all I was objecting to.

 

[kebabking]

I'm only still here because I want to know what Stan had for tea yesterday.

I'm still waiting for hotel and baggage transfer recommendations for my pilgrimage..

 

[Pickman's model]

Just to clarify I wasn't suggesting Stanley Edwards is a nice / good person or anything like that,personally I just think he's a twit and can't get worked up about the moral failings of some bloke I'll never meet.
But taking the piss out of him for being an alcoholic and a "tramp" thats all I was objecting to.

Grand

 

[xenon]

erkk. Don't recall seeing that one.

 

[Cid]

Just to clarify I wasn't suggesting Stanley Edwards is a nice / good person or anything like that,personally I just think he's a twit and can't get worked up about the moral failings of some bloke I'll never meet.
But taking the piss out of him for being an alcoholic and a "tramp" thats all I was objecting to.

That "tramp" appears to be in quotation marks. Who said that exactly?

 

[chilango]

But taking the piss out of him for being an alcoholic and a "tramp" thats all I was objecting to.

He boasts about that stuff. Boasts, believing it elevates him above the likes of us.

It's that attitude that is targeted rather than his drinking or choice of abode.

 

[chilango]

I don't know. I suppose it would be a kind of insult to call someone autistic.

Eh?

Am I missing something here?

Hopefully.

 

[bimble]

ok i get it and don't care enough to risk spending an hour here looking like i'm sticking up for stanley whom i actually don't care about one way or the other apart from as a bit of entertainment.
tramp is around post 177 if you can be bothered to search.

 

[xenon]

The hangers on thing is bullshit too.

You can't have it both ways, denounce posters as bullies for having their say. Then also denounce those who just 'like' posts with out commenting themselves. What would you have. The debate strictly run along your terms? Limited numbers of negative comments? Special posters to get a free pass visa vee their self revealed attitudes, because you like their pictures?

And yet you talk of forum Police.

Anyway, if you get up on stage and several members of the audience indepentadly start heckling, are they bullies. no one made you get up there.

 

[Corax]

But taking the piss out of him for being an alcoholic and a "tramp" thats all I was objecting to.

There's no evidence that he's an alcoholic. He's someone who habitually drinks too much - and appears to take pride in the fact. Although the Venns intersect, there's a difference.

 

[chilango]

Or...

About hangers on.

Someone has a go at an unpleasant poster.

The hangers on like the post, yay you told em, I know I don't have the erudition to express it well, but you've encapsulated my feelings on the matter too.

--- that's not necessarily cowardice, but awareness of their own limitations when it comes to online discussion. I'd far rather this than dozens of posts struggling and failing to say what others are capable of expressing better.

I'd like to echo that.

If a poster posts something lots of people disagree with, or object to, or want to call out, or need clarification or whatever....

Once the first reply has been made does that mean we forfeit the right to say anything, or even agree with that first reply because it's "bullying" or ganging up?

Nah, bollocks.

This is a community. When you post here it has consequences. Good and bad. That's how it works.

 

[Pickman's model]

There's no evidence that he's an alcoholic. He's someone who habitually drinks too much - and appears to take pride in the fact. Although the Venns intersect, there's a difference.

If someone drinks a bottle of wine a day it matters not a jot what label you or I might give them, their body knows what they are. ~70 units a week? Every week? That's chronick alkie territory in the medical sense.