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Lib Dem Polls - How Low Can They Go?

No I don't gain at all, in fact the organisation that pays may wage has had to cut down my hours due to their loss of assets in the global economic crisis. That wasn't the Coalition's fault though, neither would it be rational for me to demonise Liberal Democrats for all of the countries problems.

Tough shit because that is exactly what the country will and is doing.
 
It is basically a system which allows workers to be brought here from other countries, including those outside the EU and paid on the wage rates of their country of origin. It is not covered by immigration law and they have almost no rights because it is seen as "temporary labour movements" rather than immigration. And I know this was going on under a Labour government, but my point is that there is not enough scaremongering, not enough awareness that these horrors are going on, even among the far left (this weekend was the first i herad of it)

http://www.caef.org.uk/d119ldr.htm
 
You wouldn't say that if it was from a paper that backed your point of view. The actual source is the NHS information centre.

What is the NHS information centre?


And yes I would. If I was trying to promote how great my party was I wouldn't post something up from its paper and call you a loon when you didn't believe it.
 
moon seems a bit obsessed about the whole 'shit in the post' thing. this suggests recent, close up experience of such activism.

been on postroom duties at your local libdem office moon? :hmm:
 
moon seems a bit obsessed about the whole 'shit in the post' thing. :
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What is the NHS information centre?


And yes I would. If I was trying to promote how great my party was I wouldn't post something up from its paper and call you a loon when you didn't believe it.

Given that the Spectator is basically your party's paper as well now.
 
No it's not all Labour's fault. I do think that during the boom years they should have been putting more money away to weather the storm during the recession, but I don't blame them solely for the global recession. The global recession is a hugely complex and multi-faceted economic crisis, it’s beyond the responsibility of even Brown or Blair.
You've changed your tune...AGAIN!
 
Moon - your just a spam artist for your shitty little mini-me tory party.

Whatever their policies, you would be aruging the case on here, repeating whatever distortions, platitudes and stock answers are being churned out by the lib-dem spin machine. You are not in the business of debate - your just some wanner-be party hack - a pathetic little slime machine.

Try the Guardian Comment if Free pages - plenty of your fellow hacks on there, please refarin from spamming up these boards any more.
 
The entire country isn't being asset-stripped, we are returning to 2007 levels of spending after the current global economic situation has rendered ever increasing public sector spending unsustainable.

So, no privatisations or quasi-privatisations on the go? No contracts being signed where the public gets a lousy deal? No rolling back of the welfare state for putatively economic reasons that are in actuality ideological reasons?
No bad decisions by the current government that have had the effect of lengthening and/or worsening the current economic phase? No deliberate limitation of publicity on any fiscal strengthening brought about by the last government?

You really are economically and politically illiterate, aren't you?
 
The whole argument on this board is that it's only because of the Lib Dems that the cuts can go through...
You hold the balance of power, so it's perfectly reasonable to presume that without Lib-Dem acquiescence, the cuts can't go through.
....yet when the Lib Dems help achieve something good you dismiss it as being a Tory thing.

No, I didn't do that, I pointed out the actuality of the instances you cited, rather than the fantasy versions you proffered.

You can't have your cake and eat it.

I'm not trying to.
 
Claiming 50,000 jobs are going in the NHS for instance.

The St George's healthcare trust in Tooting, down the road from Brixton, has had to shed just under a thousand jobs in the last couple of months due to the nature of spending "ring-fencing" turning out to be mythical. This is going to be repeated in just about every trust. If we're lucky only 50,000 jobs will be lost.

So stick your pontificating claims that 50,000 job losses is "scare-mongering", you greasy-arseholed ignoramus.
 
You wouldn't say that if it was from a paper that backed your point of view. The actual source is the NHS information centre.

Mmmm, but no attribution of where the specific data came from/where/what the NHS compiled the data from, either on the Speccy website, or in the article.

Oh, and the chart comes from an article, NOT from a paper. Big difference.
 
You hold the balance of power, so it's perfectly reasonable to presume that without Lib-Dem acquiescence, the cuts can't go through.

Even if the Lib Dems had tried to secure some rainbow alliance with Labour then we would be looking at implementing Darling's economic plan that involved £14Bn of cuts, only £2Bn less then the coalition.
 
Even if the Lib Dems had tried to secure some rainbow alliance with Labour then we would be looking at implementing Darling's economic plan that involved £14Bn of cuts, only £2Bn less then the coalition.
Don't do that then. You had that option. But you chose not to take it because your party supports these cuts and these cuts now. Despite it spitting in the face of those who voted for you on he basis of your manifesto which said the exact opposite. You wonder why people hate politicians? You fucking rat.
 
Moon - your just a spam artist for your shitty little mini-me tory party.

I've been a member of this board for a few years, hardly just a spam artist.

Whatever their policies, you would be aruging the case on here, repeating whatever distortions, platitudes and stock answers are being churned out by the lib-dem spin machine. You are not in the business of debate - your just some wanner-be party hack - a pathetic little slime machine.

Not really, I spend just as much effort debating with people within the Lib Dems, trying to get them to be more liberal.
 
I've been a member of this board for a few years, hardly just a spam artist.



Not really, I spend just as much effort debating with people within the Lib Dems, trying to get them to be more liberal.

Please please more liberal whilst you attack the poorest and the very fundamentals of society.

You pointless wretch.
 
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