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Lib Dem Polls - How Low Can They Go?

The same sort of person who thinks turfing people out of their homes and asset-stripping the entire country and turning it over to their speculator mates is a "reasonable way to carry on"

The entire country isn't being asset-stripped, we are returning to 2007 levels of spending after the current global economic situation has rendered ever increasing public sector spending unsustainable.
 
The entire country isn't being asset-stripped, we are returning to 2007 levels of spending after the current global economic situation has rendered ever increasing public sector spending unsustainable.

With the state spending now being funneled into private companies, not the NHS and the needed social services. That's neo-liberalism.
 
You're right, it's not a decent way to conduct yourself in politics. Unlike this.

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I feel quite proud about belonging to a party that has ended child detention...
You haven't. You've set a target to end it that hasn't yet been fulfilled. Not the same thing.

Next!
...ID cards...
Which the Tories were already committed to.

Next!.
and securing the pupil premium.
You mean the re-circulation of old funding as new funding that's known as "the pupil premium"?

Try harder.
It’s the Lib Dems fault there has been a global recession that is now resulting in cuts being made.
There were unfavurable economic conditions for more than two years before your leader threw in his lot with his schoolmates, so the cuts were eminently foreseeable, even by someone as politically-inept as Clegg. Don't make excuses.
 
You haven't. You've set a target to end it that hasn't yet been fulfilled. Not the same thing.

Which the Tories were already committed to.

The whole argument on this board is that it's only because of the Lib Dems that the cuts can go through, yet when the Lib Dems help achieve something good you dismiss it as being a Tory thing.

You can't have your cake and eat it.
 
BTW - the 'returning local authority spending to 2005-2006 levels' is utterly disengenuous.

The stat is based on GDP, not on the amount of funding.

So moon -are you proud that the poorest parts of the country are seeing youth services, community centres, health projects, environmental projects, debt advice etc etc etc being slashed?

Are you proud that youth unemployment is at over 20% and rising?

Are you proud that the funding cuts are all being front loaded for the next financial year - meaning that there is no chance for them to be phased in and jobs losses made through natural wastage? And that this is being done purely to fit in with the electrol calander?

Are you proud that the poorest LAs in the country are facing masively bigger cuts then the richest (some of whom have had their budgets increased)?

Are you proud that all this is in direct contradiction to what your party was arguing prior to the election?

You make me fucking sick - go and drown yourself in a bucket of shit.
 
Even the cuts in local government only return them to about 2005-2006 levels, public spending has been going up and up it's economic illiteracy to assume that we have a magic pot of gold with which to carry on spending.

The sheer gall of someone who's repeatedly shown his own ignorance on the subject, talking of economic illiteracy! :D

It's economically illiterate to assume that the cuts, as they stand, are "necessary". It's socially illiterate to not appreciate that these cuts are being executed against particular parts of the socio-economic structure in order to bring about ideologically-motivated outcomes. it's financially illiterate to not see that cutting spending during a stagnant or downward phase of the economy endangers that economy.

This isn't about being a mean nasty Tory, it's about the cold reality of the economic situation and trying to advert making the whole country go bust.

Whenever someone deploys tropes such as "pot of gold" or "cold reality", you know that they've read the propaganda, and taken a drink of the Kool-Aid.

You're an idiot.
 
I think that leaflet was disgraceful. Of course There are things my party does, or has done that I don’t like.


You walked into that one. Lib-dems mentioning decency when you have a long standing reputation among activists of all parties (and none) of being the dirtiest campaigners in politics. I hope Nick Clegg slips and breaks something on a dog shit someone pushes into his letter box. There, is that decent enough for you?
 
I'm proud to be a Lib Dem, not because the party has been tasked with dealing with the economic pile of shit it inherited, but because in dealing with these problems it's brining forward legislation that makes Britain a more liberal country, that starts to roll-back the creeping authoritarianism, that had grown up under the Blair/Brown era. You can seek to minimise this achievements all you, but I’m proud of them.

Labour announced they would be introducing £14Bn pound worth of cuts, only £2Bn less the coalition. So no matter what party got elected you would be seeing cuts now. You can blame the Lib Dems all you want be things wouldn't be that economically different if the party didn't exist. The only thing is the Conservatives probably wouldn't have done anything to reduce innocent people's DNA on the Database or cared as much to reduce trial without detention.

You're proud because you are cruel. Only a cruel person could hold the meagre crumbs you cite in the balance against the savage attacks on jobs and services, and see the former as worth it.

You're proud because you are myopic. Only someone who cannot see past the end of the nose he is being led by, past the cosy cuts consensus of the three big parties, could take pride in the coming hurt.

Hurtful, blind and stupid as you have shown yourself to be, you make a great champion for your liberal cause.

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Would you like someone who disagreed with your political views to send you shit? What kind of person thinks this is a reasonable way to carry on?

I've been given beatings for my political views. A turd wouldn't worry me.

What kind of person thinks it's a reasonable way to carry on? The kind of person who knows through experience that making representations to their constituency party gets fuck-all done, you self-righteous idiot.
 
BTW - the 'returning local authority spending to 2005-2006 levels' is utterly disengenuous.

So moon -are you proud that the poorest parts of the country are seeing youth services, community centres, health projects, environmental projects, debt advice etc etc etc being slashed?

Of course i'm not proud, but this is the knock-on affect of the global economic crisis.

Are you proud that youth unemployment is at over 20% and rising?

Again no, but youth have for decades been sold the lie that a university degree was the route to employement.

Are you proud that the funding cuts are all being front loaded for the next financial year - meaning that there is no chance for them to be phased in jobs losses made through natural wastage? And that this is being done purely to fit in with the electrol calander?

Many organisations have already gone through a period of voluntary redundancies and natural wastage. I think if cuts have to be made the you need to make them quickly. One benefit of this is that is demonstrates to the international money markets that we are serious about tackling our debt. Every bit of debt we pay off means that in the future we will have more money to spend. Tackling the defecit now keeps borrowing interest payments under control.

Are you proud that all this is in direct contradiction to what your party was arguing prior to the election?

You forget the Lib Dems didn't win the election, we got five less seats. What you need to appreciate is that people made the choice to elect conservative MPs. You would be better off directing your anger towards them.
 
I've had members of my family stop speaking to me because of my views. If the worst you fear is a turd after destoying the lives of millions of people and asset-stripping and third-worldifying britain's economy then you shoud count yourself fucking lucky tbh.
 
Oh right, who do you think opens MPs post? Does Clegg sit there every morning sorting out his mail or is it one of his office workers?
Your point was about it being sent to his office, I corrected you, halfwit.
Either way it's an offensive way to conduct yourself in politics.

Should we all abide by Queensberry Rules, then? Be good little drones and never step outside the mandated bounds of protest?

Fuck right off.
 
Oh right, who do you think opens MPs post? Does Clegg sit there every morning sorting out his mail or is it one of his office workers? Either way it's an offensive way to conduct yourself in politics.
TOUGH.They CHOOSE to work for a wanker
 
Towards the tories? People voted for your scum party because they thought you were to the left of Labour.

Without the lib dems a coalition would not be possible. Without the lib-dems Cameron would have led a minority government and there probably would have been another election by now. It was your parties choice to go into government with the Tories.
 
People voted for your scum party because they were quite deliberately decieved by them into thinking they had different intentions to what they had. That is why people hate you and not the Tories, because they expect the tories to behave like cunts. I didn't but a lot of people expected you to be better.
 
I've had members of my family stop speaking to me because of my views. If the worst you fear is a turd after destoying the lives of millions of people and asset-stripping and third-worldifying britain's economy then you shoud count yourself fucking lucky tbh.

People are suffering hardship now becuase of a global economic crisis Frogwoman, not becuase of Clegg. The Millions of people whose lives have been destroyed are those who once lived in Iraq.

Britian would have become a third-world economy if nothing had been done to tackle the debt, and we had been faced with runaway bond repayments, and a collpase in the currency.
 
People voted for your scum party because they were quite deliberately decieved by them into thinking they had different intentions to what they had. That is why people hate you and not the Tories, because they expect the tories to behave like cunts. I didn't but a lot of people expected you to be better.

There hasn't been a deception, the party has strived to achieve it's manifesto commitments. It's a coalition Frogwoman, that means you don’t get everything your own way.
 
People are suffering hardship now becuase of a global economic crisis Frogwoman, not becuase of Clegg. The Millions of people whose lives have been destroyed are those who once lived in Iraq.

Britian would have become a third-world economy if nothing had been done to tackle the debt, and we had been faced with runaway bond repayments, and a collpase in the currency.


An economic crisis that due to your policies you are doing everything to prolong and deepen despite the advice of many leading economists.
 
There hasn't been a deception, the party has strived to achieve it's manifesto commitments. It's a coalition Frogwoman, that means you don’t get everything your own way.

No you haven't. You aren't even campaigning for PR any more but for a retrograde step from FPTP.

You chose to go into a coalition with the tories. Nobody fucking forced you to get into bed with them.

And if there was no deception then what do you call Clegg attending student protests and signing a pledge he'd vote against fees a few weeks before voting for them.
 
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