Lewisham Neighbourhoods Chitter Chatter
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cesare
shady's dreams ♥
I worked that out!
My sister also went there and loved it. You didnt?!
No, I didn't. This was back in the days when it was based in Rushey Green though.
I came from a large state mixed comp, so the transition was difficult for me. But yes, I could reel off a litany of complaints but I'm not really wanting to piss anyone off. Plus, it's relocated, times have changed, was a long time ago etc etc.
cesare
shady's dreams ♥
Fait enough if you dont want to dish, but I wouldnt be offended. I didnt go there myself.
But Ive yet to come across a state school with a more loyal alumni- Ive always found that impressive.
Back in my day it was a state Grammar - highly selective, and only those that they perceived to be high achievers going onto further education. Anyone with a working class background was actively looked down on (not that the majority of them had anything that much to write home about), there really was a class thing going on there that I'd never experienced before. Plus, everything was geared up to academic achievement. Not a bad thing in itself, but to give you an idea, they threatened to expel me for going for an interview at art college before I'd finished my A levels. Cliquey, segregated, smug.
The last year I was there saw their first comprehensive intake. They really couldn't cope with those kids, teachers and pupils alike.
I cant argue with that- I can only surmise that they had other more 'high powered' plans for you. ??
But in any case they had no business trying to over rule your wishes. Were your parents involved?
I carried my own negative school experiences with me for the longest time.
My sister found it had a real family atmosphere and honestly loved the staff who genuinely cared for her and her friends. It was racially and religiously diverse and she adored it.
It does a range of vocational quals and has done for years now. I think it even has a salon now for beauty therapy/ cosmetic courses.
But in any case they had no business trying to over rule your wishes. Were your parents involved?
I carried my own negative school experiences with me for the longest time.
My sister found it had a real family atmosphere and honestly loved the staff who genuinely cared for her and her friends. It was racially and religiously diverse and she adored it.
It does a range of vocational quals and has done for years now. I think it even has a salon now for beauty therapy/ cosmetic courses.
cesare
shady's dreams ♥
Gah, I typed out a really long post then got logged out and lost it. The essence of it was anecdotal about me, but illustrating the elitist divisive stuff about how they operated back in the 70s and what forms their backdrop 30 years later. I'll type it out again if you want. Heh, I'm a bit irritated cos I spent ages on that.
Did anyone see the ridicule Deptford got last week for being included in the New york Times 'cool places to visit in London' list?
Im not the area's biggest cheerleader, but I was mightily irritated by the sneering articles trashing the area. It was cheap, knee jerk stuff.
There was a fair bit of coverage, with each article was accompanied by predictable photos of streets knee deep in rubbish (taken at the end of the street market trading day).
The Original NYT piece In London, New Cross and Deptford Attract the Hip
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The Telegraph Response
Screen grab
Paul Harris @ The Daily Mail: 'You gotta be kidding'
"It has everything to make a U.S. tourist feel at home - murder, muggings and stabbings, plus a long-standing share of inner-city poverty."
Sky News coverage was really special. They took the trouble to reconstruct a tableau of a black boy graffiti spraying in a hoodie.
Sky News article
Im not the area's biggest cheerleader, but I was mightily irritated by the sneering articles trashing the area. It was cheap, knee jerk stuff.
There was a fair bit of coverage, with each article was accompanied by predictable photos of streets knee deep in rubbish (taken at the end of the street market trading day).
The Original NYT piece In London, New Cross and Deptford Attract the Hip
---
The Telegraph Response
Screen grab
Paul Harris @ The Daily Mail: 'You gotta be kidding'
"It has everything to make a U.S. tourist feel at home - murder, muggings and stabbings, plus a long-standing share of inner-city poverty."
Sky News coverage was really special. They took the trouble to reconstruct a tableau of a black boy graffiti spraying in a hoodie.
Sky News article
oryx
Sitting on the bok of the day
Wasn't it? Mind you, do we want deck-shoe'd, Cameron-voting Daily Mail & Telegraph readers invading our lovely Lewisham?
I think the original NYT article does make it clear that Deptford's status as a magnet for people visiting London and wanting to see emerging musicians & artists is at a very early stage! The Daily Mail & Telegraph have missed the NYT's point and made out that the article was bigging up SE8 as a tourist attraction on a par with Covent Garden or Camden Market.
Wasn't it? Mind you, do we want deck-shoe'd, Cameron-voting Daily Mail & Telegraph readers invading our lovely Lewisham?
I think the original NYT article does make it clear that Deptford's status as a magnet for people visiting London and wanting to see emerging musicians & artists is at a very early stage! The Daily Mail & Telegraph have missed the NYT's point and made out that the article was bigging up SE8 as a tourist attraction on a par with Covent Garden or Camden Market.
We were at the Grand Designs Expo at ExCel this past weekend and got the DLR to Lewisham afterwards; Deptford looked so sharp from the train.
It was unfair and short sighted to use market shots to illustrate the articles.
Oh Ces Gordon Brown paid a visit to Prendergast yesterday
He sat down in front of a history exhibit to pose for photos!
http://www.guardian.co.uk/education/2009/may/05/gordon-brown-parents-rate-schools?commentpage=1
cesare
shady's dreams ♥
Oh Ces Gordon Brown paid a visit to Prendergast yesterday
He sat down in front of a history exhibit to pose for photos!
Heh, love that photo
He also went to Lewisham Bridge didn't he? A Leathersellers tour.
Brainaddict
slight system overdrive
Re: that article on Deptford. I'm growing quite fond of it myself but couldn't give a flying fuck if the shitsheet readers don't want to come here. It's one of the attractions in fact.
Brainaddict
slight system overdrive
In other Lewisham gossip, Pepys Community Forum on the Pepys estate in Deptford got shafted by Berkeley Homes the other day - BH stole back community space they had promised and that was even in the planning conditions. The Labour and Conservative Councillors barely batted an eyelid as they voted it through.
butchersapron
Bring back hanging
Some folks in this forum might be interested in this (Lewisham Bridge Primary School occupied to prevent closure)
Hands Off Lewisham Bridge!
Bailiffs are arriving at 10.30 on Wednesday morning.
Hands Off Lewisham Bridge are asking for your support in resisting the
eviction. We need as many people as possible to stay overnight on
Tuesday. If you can't stay overnight then please come down as early as
possible on Wednesday morning to support the occupation.
We want to let Lewisham Council know that they are evicting people who
have been peacefully protesting over the destruction of community
education at our school.
Lewisham Council still don't have planning permission for their new
school. Lewisham Council still haven't told us why the decant had to
take place at Easter, when children were taking SATs and banding
tests. Lewisham Council still haven't told us why they are prepared to
wash their hands of the responsibility of educating our children.
If Lewisham Bridge Primary School is given to Leathersellers we
parents will have no say in the governance of our school. Staff will
be employed by Leathersellers who will set their own terms and
conditions taking those teachers out of a collective national teaching
body.
This is privatisation! This is bringing the market into our kids'
education, where the only motivation is profit and the only measure is
league tables and headcount. Competition will be the name of the game.
Trusts and academies will compete for those children they believe to
be desirable and leave those whom they don't on the scrapheap. Why
have Prendergast rejected the Travellers Education Service that used
to be based at the school? Why have Prendergast rejected the proposal
to establish a SEN unit at the new school?
A consultation process has already started for a trust led by
Goldsmiths University which will govern 3 schools: Addey & Stanhope,
Deptford Green and Crossways. It is a process that has exactly the
same goal. To take our schools out of the public sector and hand them
over to the private sector.
We cannot let them get away with this. We can fight this together and
we can win!
Come down to Lewisham Bridge Primary School and let the bailiffs know
that we're not going easily.
Hands Off Lewisham Bridge
07946 541 331
Hands Off Lewisham Bridge!
Bailiffs are arriving at 10.30 on Wednesday morning.
Hands Off Lewisham Bridge are asking for your support in resisting the
eviction. We need as many people as possible to stay overnight on
Tuesday. If you can't stay overnight then please come down as early as
possible on Wednesday morning to support the occupation.
We want to let Lewisham Council know that they are evicting people who
have been peacefully protesting over the destruction of community
education at our school.
Lewisham Council still don't have planning permission for their new
school. Lewisham Council still haven't told us why the decant had to
take place at Easter, when children were taking SATs and banding
tests. Lewisham Council still haven't told us why they are prepared to
wash their hands of the responsibility of educating our children.
If Lewisham Bridge Primary School is given to Leathersellers we
parents will have no say in the governance of our school. Staff will
be employed by Leathersellers who will set their own terms and
conditions taking those teachers out of a collective national teaching
body.
This is privatisation! This is bringing the market into our kids'
education, where the only motivation is profit and the only measure is
league tables and headcount. Competition will be the name of the game.
Trusts and academies will compete for those children they believe to
be desirable and leave those whom they don't on the scrapheap. Why
have Prendergast rejected the Travellers Education Service that used
to be based at the school? Why have Prendergast rejected the proposal
to establish a SEN unit at the new school?
A consultation process has already started for a trust led by
Goldsmiths University which will govern 3 schools: Addey & Stanhope,
Deptford Green and Crossways. It is a process that has exactly the
same goal. To take our schools out of the public sector and hand them
over to the private sector.
We cannot let them get away with this. We can fight this together and
we can win!
Come down to Lewisham Bridge Primary School and let the bailiffs know
that we're not going easily.
Hands Off Lewisham Bridge
07946 541 331
softybabe
one merlot then two....
a cinema of any kind would be nice
One by New Cross station has managed not to butcher my hair in the past. £10.
One on Lee High Road in Lewisham does em for a fiver. Or did.
Hope you've discovered Wellbeloved Butchers in Deptford if you're not a veggie.
Pop into the Royal George on Tanner's Hill for a beer. Proper working man's pub, nice, colourful place. I'll buy you a pint.
Puddy_Tat
naturally fluffy
picture with the Lewisham footbridge in -
Also note the mini Catford Cat on the midi-bus - Catford garage's midibuses carried this for a while at the end of the 80s - it is believed that someone important issued a "don't be so silly" instruction and it went.
The bridge linked the Riverdale Centre to Chiesmans / House of Fraser (where the Police Station is now) - photographer is stood about where the traffic island between Yates and the Clock Tower is now.
Chiesmans was two buildings linked by a (smaller) bridge at 2nd floor level - I can't remember now if you could get through from one basement to another. Very old fashioned feel about it, lots of odd departments that were round a corner and up or down a few stairs. Most of the lifts were the ancient wire mesh cage sort of thing, with equally ancient lift attendants.
Yates building was RACS Co-op department store - basement was food, 1st and 2nd floor were 'department store' kinda stuff.
Also note the mini Catford Cat on the midi-bus - Catford garage's midibuses carried this for a while at the end of the 80s - it is believed that someone important issued a "don't be so silly" instruction and it went.
The bridge linked the Riverdale Centre to Chiesmans / House of Fraser (where the Police Station is now) - photographer is stood about where the traffic island between Yates and the Clock Tower is now.
Chiesmans was two buildings linked by a (smaller) bridge at 2nd floor level - I can't remember now if you could get through from one basement to another. Very old fashioned feel about it, lots of odd departments that were round a corner and up or down a few stairs. Most of the lifts were the ancient wire mesh cage sort of thing, with equally ancient lift attendants.
Yates building was RACS Co-op department store - basement was food, 1st and 2nd floor were 'department store' kinda stuff.
clicker
nanook rubs it....
I went into that Wimpy before seeing David ( I'm gonna make you a starrrrrr ) Essex at Lewisham Odeon, circa 1975...and they had those ketchup bottles on the tables that looked like big plastic tomatoes, some git had unscrewed the top for a jape and somehow I managed to redecorate the floor/walls/me....all before my date with destiny and the gawjuss david.
I remember the footbridge well....they made it look like a huge christmas cracker one year.
Used to go and see Santa at Chiesmans....loved the posh chocolates counter on the ground floor, just as you went in the door, sold individual chocs in glass fronted displays....those posh jobbies with fake sugar violets on top....no doubt tasted rank, but their sheer elegance always made me yearn.
I remember the footbridge well....they made it look like a huge christmas cracker one year.
Used to go and see Santa at Chiesmans....loved the posh chocolates counter on the ground floor, just as you went in the door, sold individual chocs in glass fronted displays....those posh jobbies with fake sugar violets on top....no doubt tasted rank, but their sheer elegance always made me yearn.
bromley
...isn't as good as Lewisham.
I found a place just off of Lee High Road that gave me a hair cut, cup of tea with biscuits and a couple of quality street sweets all for £8!One by New Cross station has managed not to butcher my hair in the past. £10.
One on Lee High Road in Lewisham does em for a fiver. Or did.
Hope you've discovered Wellbeloved Butchersin Deptford if you're not a veggie.
Pop into the Royal George on Tanner's Hill for a beer. Proper working man's pub, nice, colourful place. I'll buy you a pint.
I've been to Wellbeloved Butchers, the quality looks good but there was as big a selection as other butchers in the area.
The Royal George sounds like my kind of pub!
Agree with that, but the quality is much better, and it you want all manner of fowl and game if you is posh then his is prob the best in the area.
Anyway, do give me a shout if you want to grab a beer sometime.
I remember that! Used to love the footbridge as it lead directly into Miss Selfridge where I could shop for fingerless lace gloves and the like
clicker
nanook rubs it....
I remember that! Used to love the footbridge as it lead directly into Miss Selfridge where I could shop for fingerless lace gloves and the like
Yes I remember that...I think I've still got a cardigan from there...cropped grey with knitted roses on it...and a thin dressing gown with lipstick lips design all over!
I think the Wimpy had changed into a Wendy then...the home of the square burger....
the button
out on the kocker
Any idea what the buildings on Lee High Road, near Lewisham Station are going to get turned into? I have a feeling it's going to be more flats.
I live just opposite that building site (if it's the one I'm thinking of). I heard there was going to be an Aldi. But no doubt they'll sneak some flats into there too.
bromley
...isn't as good as Lewisham.
Great, that's just what the area needs, another supermarket.
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