Lewisham A&E under threat + campaign
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so, announcements on the 1st Feb is that right? Whats happening next?
butchersapron
Bring back hanging
Liked this one:
miktheword
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yep, fairplay for the statements and publicity, but it was the OB who forced the change of date, saying they couldn't cope with the match and march on the same date.
past caring
The Cathars were right
Regardless, the club had already decided to back the campaign.
butchersapron
Bring back hanging
Maybe of interest to those involved in the campaign seeing the day draws closer (hurdles and so on):
The South London Women’s Hospital Occupation 1984-85
The South London Women’s Hospital Occupation 1984-85
frogwoman
No amount of cajolery...
http://www.parliamentlive.tv/Main/Player.aspx?meetingId=12334
currently speaking. C*nt. Agreed to 5 out of 6. Talking about Lewisham A&E now. Basically stitching Lewisham up - wanker.
currently speaking. C*nt. Agreed to 5 out of 6. Talking about Lewisham A&E now. Basically stitching Lewisham up - wanker.
i assume that means a walk in type service as it talks about more serious cases going off to other hospitals.
which is a total fucking fudge. its the serious cases that need the immediate care.
eta - according to the grun feed, 3/4's of people could attend this service, the remaining to go elsewhere. i.e those in need of critical care etc.
the button
out on the kocker
http://mediacentre.dh.gov.uk/2013/0...-nhs-trust-to-be-dissolved-by-1-october-2013/
Official statement ^
Official statement ^
cesare
shady's dreams ♥
Yeah, the blue light services going to Kings etc
ska invita
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was there any mention of the maternity unit at Lewisham? From what I can see it sounds like that is going
love detective
there's no love too small
yep, one of the best maternity units in London and it's going to be closed - pre-natal wards, post natal wards, labour ward all to go
the only things that will be left is the 5 travel lodge type rooms in the basement which is the current 'natural birth centre' that no one will use because they won't have the option to transfer upstairs to the labour ward in the event of complications or if they need an epidural or assisted delivery or medical intervention - so 4,000 extra births a year will have to be handled by neighbouring hospitals, while all the infrastructure to handle those births at lewisham is wasted, and the midwifes who work there either lose their jobs are forced to relocate
the only things that will be left is the 5 travel lodge type rooms in the basement which is the current 'natural birth centre' that no one will use because they won't have the option to transfer upstairs to the labour ward in the event of complications or if they need an epidural or assisted delivery or medical intervention - so 4,000 extra births a year will have to be handled by neighbouring hospitals, while all the infrastructure to handle those births at lewisham is wasted, and the midwifes who work there either lose their jobs are forced to relocate
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...so the fight goes on
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its a shame all the posters etc focussed on A&E over the maternity wards
love detective
there's no love too small
yep, so nominally A&E remains (to be killed by a thousand cuts over a longer period instead of one big one) and the slashing of maternity services goes ahead under the radar so to speak
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So i guess there is a call out for people to meet at the Hospital at 6pm today. I can't make it because of work
story
Changing the facts
Yup. I've just seen this in my inbox.
Hi Everyone,
Jeremy Hunt has announced a huge cut to Lewisham hosptial's A&E and maternity ward.
An emergency rally has been called for 6pm outside Lewisham hospital. Please attend if you can.
Lambeth SOS
Brixton Hatter
Home is south London mate
And they're selling off the buildings/property where they can too:
Brixton Hatter
Home is south London mate
Brixton Hatter
Home is south London mate
hayrr tweeted this pic earlier:
someone else said there was 100-200 people there...
someone else said there was 100-200 people there...
Brixton Hatter
Home is south London mate
@nobrightside tweeted this pic
ska invita
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TRANSPONTINE BLOG
Hundreds of people gathered outside Lewisham Hospital last night in the aftermath of health secretary Jeremy Hunt's announcement in Parliament on the future of emergency and maternity services. Hunt had been forced to acknowledge the strength of the opposition to cuts and modify the recommendations put to him by the Trust Special Administrator he appointed to review South London health services. He stated that the Accident and Emergency department would now be downgraded rather than closed, retaining the ability to admit some patients who need to be taken into hospital. But in real terms this still means that there will be no full A&E at Lewisham with potentially devastating implications for the wider hospital.
According to BBC Health Correspondent Nick Triggle: 'The official line is that the plan to change it to an urgent care centre has been stopped by ministers who have listened to concerns. But make no mistake the A&E - currently classed as a major type one unit - is still being downgraded. The plan may only mean a quarter of the patients using the unit are affected as the rest will still be able to get the treatment they need from the service that emerges from the reorganisation'.
'But the absence of those quarter, who will end up being treated at nearby hospitals, will have a profound impact. They will be the sickest, most life-threatening cases who are ferried to hospital in ambulances. Without them Lewisham will not need its critical care unit and perhaps a host of other associated services. Hospitals are complex organisations. Removing one thing has a ripple effect across the rest of the hospital. The plan means Lewisham starts to move away from what many would associate a hospital to be'.
'Instead, it will focus much more on planned care, such as knee and hip replacements, and non-emergency cases. Only those who are at no immediate risk will be taken to Lewisham, this could include the elderly person who has had a fall and needs a little supervision to someone who has twisted their ankle'.
Hunt also decided to go ahead with the 'downgrading' of maternity services at Lewisham which again amounts to a virtual closure. There would only be a midwife-led unit on site rather with no consultant obstetricians. Midwives do a great job and many women choose to give birth in these midwife-led units as a kind of half way house between home birth and hospital birth. But they usually do so because they have decided they want to be close to emergency clinical back up if there are complications. That wouldn't exists in future at Lewisham.
In real terms both the degraded 'A&E' and remaining maternity services would eventually wither on the vine and could then be fully closed on the basis that people weren't choosing to use them anymore. Lewisham Hospital would just be a place where people go for minor operations and no doubt it wouldn't be long before somebody said it was too expensive to keep a whole site just for that, why not just close it down and sell off the land?
Outside the hosptial last night, campaigners were clear that the fight to save Lewisham Hospital will continue. This is a financially driven cut, not a clinically-led attempt to save patient lives, and Hunt's decision is a political one. Lots of debate is now going on about what to do next, with speakers last night putting forward a range of ideas from legal challenges and political lobbying to direct action (e.g. occupations and work-ins to prevent closures). The actual closure of services could take two to three years, clearly the Government hopes that opposition will fade over that time. But possibly the strongest ever local movement against NHS cuts isn't going to melt away.
Check Save Lewisham Hospital for campaign updates. Forthcoming events include:
Friday 15 February, 1 pm - Lunctime rally for hospital workers and community campaingers to discuss the next steps, at the war memorial opposite the hospital.
Saturday 16 February - 'Born in Lewisham event' for people born in, or who gave birth, in Lewisham Hospital. Further details to be confirmed.
Every Tuesday, 7 pm - Save Lewisham Hospital weekly campaign meetings at the Waldron Health Centre in New Cross.
Hundreds of people gathered outside Lewisham Hospital last night in the aftermath of health secretary Jeremy Hunt's announcement in Parliament on the future of emergency and maternity services. Hunt had been forced to acknowledge the strength of the opposition to cuts and modify the recommendations put to him by the Trust Special Administrator he appointed to review South London health services. He stated that the Accident and Emergency department would now be downgraded rather than closed, retaining the ability to admit some patients who need to be taken into hospital. But in real terms this still means that there will be no full A&E at Lewisham with potentially devastating implications for the wider hospital.
According to BBC Health Correspondent Nick Triggle: 'The official line is that the plan to change it to an urgent care centre has been stopped by ministers who have listened to concerns. But make no mistake the A&E - currently classed as a major type one unit - is still being downgraded. The plan may only mean a quarter of the patients using the unit are affected as the rest will still be able to get the treatment they need from the service that emerges from the reorganisation'.
'But the absence of those quarter, who will end up being treated at nearby hospitals, will have a profound impact. They will be the sickest, most life-threatening cases who are ferried to hospital in ambulances. Without them Lewisham will not need its critical care unit and perhaps a host of other associated services. Hospitals are complex organisations. Removing one thing has a ripple effect across the rest of the hospital. The plan means Lewisham starts to move away from what many would associate a hospital to be'.
'Instead, it will focus much more on planned care, such as knee and hip replacements, and non-emergency cases. Only those who are at no immediate risk will be taken to Lewisham, this could include the elderly person who has had a fall and needs a little supervision to someone who has twisted their ankle'.
Hunt also decided to go ahead with the 'downgrading' of maternity services at Lewisham which again amounts to a virtual closure. There would only be a midwife-led unit on site rather with no consultant obstetricians. Midwives do a great job and many women choose to give birth in these midwife-led units as a kind of half way house between home birth and hospital birth. But they usually do so because they have decided they want to be close to emergency clinical back up if there are complications. That wouldn't exists in future at Lewisham.
In real terms both the degraded 'A&E' and remaining maternity services would eventually wither on the vine and could then be fully closed on the basis that people weren't choosing to use them anymore. Lewisham Hospital would just be a place where people go for minor operations and no doubt it wouldn't be long before somebody said it was too expensive to keep a whole site just for that, why not just close it down and sell off the land?
Outside the hosptial last night, campaigners were clear that the fight to save Lewisham Hospital will continue. This is a financially driven cut, not a clinically-led attempt to save patient lives, and Hunt's decision is a political one. Lots of debate is now going on about what to do next, with speakers last night putting forward a range of ideas from legal challenges and political lobbying to direct action (e.g. occupations and work-ins to prevent closures). The actual closure of services could take two to three years, clearly the Government hopes that opposition will fade over that time. But possibly the strongest ever local movement against NHS cuts isn't going to melt away.
Check Save Lewisham Hospital for campaign updates. Forthcoming events include:
Friday 15 February, 1 pm - Lunctime rally for hospital workers and community campaingers to discuss the next steps, at the war memorial opposite the hospital.
Saturday 16 February - 'Born in Lewisham event' for people born in, or who gave birth, in Lewisham Hospital. Further details to be confirmed.
Every Tuesday, 7 pm - Save Lewisham Hospital weekly campaign meetings at the Waldron Health Centre in New Cross.
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16th Feb is a big Save the NHS day i think....not got more details but heard mention
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Hunt is a lying Cunt shocker!
Health Secretary Jeremy Hunt pressed ahead with plans to downgrade Lewisham Hospital despite the “critical” concerns of the NHS’s medical director, it can be revealed.
Professor Sir Bruce Keogh warned him that cutting the accident and emergency and maternity departments could lead to major problems at neighbouring hospitals required to treat patients diverted from Lewisham.
It comes as Mr Hunt was today under fire for claiming in Parliament that the NHS chief told him the proposals “could save up to 100 lives every year” — a claim never made in his report. Sir Bruce, who was asked by Mr Hunt to review the proposed axing of Lewisham’s casualty and maternity wards prior to a final decision last week, backed the changes but told the Health Secretary that their timing “will be critical”.
patients are expected to divert to King’s College or to Queen Elizabeth Hospital in Woolwich. This will result in both handling more than 8,000 births a year and having to “double-staff” the units.
Campaigners and MPs had already complained that hospitals including King’s College, in Denmark Hill, had been forced to turn away expectant mothers on 37 occasions in 18 months because their maternity wards were full.
Sir Bruce said there was a need to “ensure there is no risk to patients by inadvertent underprovision at hospitals receiving displaced Lewisham activity”, particularly “acute medical emergencies”.
Sir Bruce told Mr Hunt that it was “illogical” to transfer all A&E patients elsewhere — prompting the Health Secretary to retain a downgraded casualty unit at the hospital able to deal with about 80,000 of the less serious cases Lewisham handles each year.
Sir Bruce added: “We will need reassurance that there are sufficient critical care services for the receipt of acutely ill medical and surgical patients in receiving hospitals.”
Labour MP Dame Tessa Jowell said there has been a fourfold increase in cancelled operations at King’s College since 2009/10 as a result of existing pressures.
She added: “I am alarmed by the degree of risk that Sir Bruce Keogh identifies.”
Lewisham Hospital consultant and campaigner John O’Donohue said medics were writing to Sir Bruce to ask how Mr Hunt could “make the baseless claim that 100 lives will be saved”.
“What was said in Parliament by Jeremy Hunt is based on very false evidence,” he said. “It’s going to be used time and time again to justify local hospital closures.
“What they will do is play the ‘local safety’ card, but there is no evidence for it. The whole thing is a bit like a house of cards. It’s built on no concrete evidence.”
The Department of Health did not respond to requests for a comment.
http://www.standard.co.uk/news/lond...s-over-cuts-at-lewisham-hospital-8479824.html
Health Secretary Jeremy Hunt pressed ahead with plans to downgrade Lewisham Hospital despite the “critical” concerns of the NHS’s medical director, it can be revealed.
Professor Sir Bruce Keogh warned him that cutting the accident and emergency and maternity departments could lead to major problems at neighbouring hospitals required to treat patients diverted from Lewisham.
It comes as Mr Hunt was today under fire for claiming in Parliament that the NHS chief told him the proposals “could save up to 100 lives every year” — a claim never made in his report. Sir Bruce, who was asked by Mr Hunt to review the proposed axing of Lewisham’s casualty and maternity wards prior to a final decision last week, backed the changes but told the Health Secretary that their timing “will be critical”.
patients are expected to divert to King’s College or to Queen Elizabeth Hospital in Woolwich. This will result in both handling more than 8,000 births a year and having to “double-staff” the units.
Campaigners and MPs had already complained that hospitals including King’s College, in Denmark Hill, had been forced to turn away expectant mothers on 37 occasions in 18 months because their maternity wards were full.
Sir Bruce said there was a need to “ensure there is no risk to patients by inadvertent underprovision at hospitals receiving displaced Lewisham activity”, particularly “acute medical emergencies”.
Sir Bruce told Mr Hunt that it was “illogical” to transfer all A&E patients elsewhere — prompting the Health Secretary to retain a downgraded casualty unit at the hospital able to deal with about 80,000 of the less serious cases Lewisham handles each year.
Sir Bruce added: “We will need reassurance that there are sufficient critical care services for the receipt of acutely ill medical and surgical patients in receiving hospitals.”
Labour MP Dame Tessa Jowell said there has been a fourfold increase in cancelled operations at King’s College since 2009/10 as a result of existing pressures.
She added: “I am alarmed by the degree of risk that Sir Bruce Keogh identifies.”
Lewisham Hospital consultant and campaigner John O’Donohue said medics were writing to Sir Bruce to ask how Mr Hunt could “make the baseless claim that 100 lives will be saved”.
“What was said in Parliament by Jeremy Hunt is based on very false evidence,” he said. “It’s going to be used time and time again to justify local hospital closures.
“What they will do is play the ‘local safety’ card, but there is no evidence for it. The whole thing is a bit like a house of cards. It’s built on no concrete evidence.”
The Department of Health did not respond to requests for a comment.
http://www.standard.co.uk/news/lond...s-over-cuts-at-lewisham-hospital-8479824.html
Puddy_Tat
naturally fluffy
Sounds like Lewisham Council will be going ahead with judicial review (for what that's worth - not sure I have a lot of faith in judges to rule against a tory government)
And the bit about Jeremy Cunt's proudest achievement (stopping closure of Royal Surrey A & E) seems to have disappeared off his web page.
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And the bit about Jeremy Cunt's proudest achievement (stopping closure of Royal Surrey A & E) seems to have disappeared off his web page.
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