A380
How do I change this 'custom title' thing then?
NATO; it's NATO's fault.
Energy Prices: Don't Pay Campaign
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Threshers_Flail
Well-Known Member
I've started a Whatsapp group for my postcode, just me so far but we'll see!
Anyone else looking to organise on this?
Anyone else looking to organise on this?
LDC
On est tous des pangolins
Yup, started a local (postcode area) Whatsapp group as suggested on the website/emails, and then they send a joining link out to everyone else that filled in the 'organisers' box on the website. On the website 20 people are signed up, and so far 7 have joined using the link. To me the website is slightly unclear in the difference/process between signing up to be an 'organiser' and signing up to do the general thing. I think the numbers on the map are the former not the later? I suspect some people have signed up as organisers thinking they're just signing up to the pledge maybe, and that's why we have fewer people joining the Whatsapp than have signed up on the website?
We've got our first local meeting next week. There's been loads of interest and excitement already, people have a bunch of ideas and enthusiasm.
Also just been in a large town in the NW and there was a huge (3 tables and a gazebo and covered area) stall of conspiracy theory/British Lions for Freedom/FOTL stuff that was getting good attention from passers-by, and they had some stuff about energy bill increases and the cost of living all mixed in with the elites/Great Reset/Soros etc. Which as others have pointed out is a good reason for us to organise on this as it's going to be an area of conflict in the coming months, and if we don't provide a framework and some better ideas and politics then people like that will and when people look about for answers and a channel for their anger they'll end up with them and we'll lose a load more people to bonkers ideas and racist/right wing politics.
Threshers_Flail
Well-Known Member
Just five in my group so far, two are my housemates and the one is a mate who lives on my road, plus one random who's not messaged just yet! Only started it on Thursday so hopefully see a few more trickle in next week and then can pencil in a meeting.
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
This from the mail Energy watchdog boss says people should NOT join Don't Pay movement
A380
How do I change this 'custom title' thing then?
Ranbay
The same rules apply
Rob Ray
Weight is meaningless
Bosses are circling the wagons against Don't Pay UK - Freedom News
One of the most notable things about Don’t Pay UK and its plan of getting a million people to cancel their direct debits on October 1st, as a way of pressuring for energy price reductions, has been how rapidly the State, companies and now charities have rallied round in panic against it. The...
freedomnews.org.uk
Freedom should give itself a pat on the back..Bosses are circling the wagons against Don't Pay UK - Freedom News
One of the most notable things about Don’t Pay UK and its plan of getting a million people to cancel their direct debits on October 1st, as a way of pressuring for energy price reductions, has been how rapidly the State, companies and now charities have rallied round in panic against it. The...
The People's Price Cap - Freedom News
A woman in your area saved £££££s with anarchism today. Find out how. Dear Uncle Kropotkin, How the fuck am I going to pay my gas bill? TLDR: You’re not The total absence of any kind of tax on the ballooning profits of the energy companies in the recent budget shows anyone still not on
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Karl Masks
Birds Angel Delight
Their campaign video makes me positive.
WhyLikeThis
Something, something, something
They need to look at the stickers they’re using. Modern stickers peel from the middle to stop edges curly up. Don’t Pay’s are sadly old school. Ones I’ve stuck up have started to curl up already.
SpookyFrank
A cheap source of teeth for aquarium gravel
Turkeys declare war on Christmas.
I am enjoying watching everyone on the right do all this free PR work for the don't pay thing. It's nice to be reminded that our enemies are, when you get right down to it, pretty fucking stupid. And right now, they're stupid and scared.
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Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
A bad workman...
Not the latest batch.
LDC
On est tous des pangolins
If that's all you can find to moan about we're onto a winner.
RainbowTown
Well-Known Member
What are the options for managing skyrocketing energy bills this winter?
Explainer: The looming hardship is fuelling support for Don’t Pay UK campaign, but there are other approaches
This is the counter attack.What are the options for managing skyrocketing energy bills this winter?
Explainer: The looming hardship is fuelling support for Don’t Pay UK campaign, but there are other approacheswww.theguardian.com
There's nothing in any of their proposals that solves the issue.
Rob Ray
Weight is meaningless
Sad not but entirely surprising to see Lynch and Dempsey are joining in – too middle class apparently.
NoXion
Craicy the Squirrel
They've got a point though, if you're on a key meter then the Don't Pay campaign isn't really relevant. I've got a key meter and that's been a big factor in why I haven't paid this thread as much attention as the EIE thread. I think it's going too far to characterise their criticism as part of the counter attack.
Brainaddict
slight system overdrive
They are dismissing it as 'middle class' though, just because a lot of working class people have key meters. It seems to ignore that you've got to use the tools at your disposal, and yes it's a shame not everyone has that tool, but what's the alternative? The Enough is Enough campaign they are touting (and which I would love to be successful) has just announced their first big move - a series of 'rallies' across the country. What is the lever of power they are pulling on here? It's non-existent. I'd have more sympathy with their criticism if they had more (beyond striking, which is also not available to everyone) to offer themselves.
I delivered all my leaflets (in the freaking heat too). Have not really considered what's App groups cos I can't actually pledge not to pay (pre-payment metre) and I am also a bit thick...when it comes to tech stuff. I had no fucking idea what that bar-code-y thing was on my leaflets and dreaded being asked about it. My youngest took a bunch to put in the shop at his work and has printed up a few much larger ones and has plastered them around his workshop. Afraid that's probably the limit to my involvement.
Rob Ray
Weight is meaningless
It also ignores that most working class people aren't on pre-paid – 15% of the public, which means it's not the norm in C2DE households let alone if you include C1/B (ie. his actual constituency). And I do wonder exactly how Dempsey, a man on 3X the average wage, social class A, is one of them. Like I've got no problem with him talking about his personal history, but pretending he's still living it so he can have a go at some perceived rivals to the latest union campaign is a bit weak.
Plus it's really a bit irrelevant that only part of the public can join in as far as leverage goes – if every campaign only functioned with everyone involved the RMT would never have a strike mandate. It's worth looking for ways to get involvement from and support to both pre-paid and smart meter users, but the strategy is to go after a perceived weak point.
Plus it's really a bit irrelevant that only part of the public can join in as far as leverage goes – if every campaign only functioned with everyone involved the RMT would never have a strike mandate. It's worth looking for ways to get involvement from and support to both pre-paid and smart meter users, but the strategy is to go after a perceived weak point.
Brainaddict
slight system overdrive
The QR code will just be a link to their website - most smartphones can scan it.
chilango
Hypothetical Wanker
I noticed some murmurings from certain quarters on Twitter taking this "middle-class" line.
Wasn't impressed.
Also yet to be impressed by the EIE alternative they're touting. I've signed up, but there's no apparent way to take action except wait for the 'tops' to call something.
That may change.
Wasn't impressed.
Also yet to be impressed by the EIE alternative they're touting. I've signed up, but there's no apparent way to take action except wait for the 'tops' to call something.
That may change.
LDC
On est tous des pangolins
It's lazy and inaccurate criticism. I'd expect it from some of the super-uber-idproles, but had hoped better from more sensible people. Maybe inevitably they'll be some early days grumbling, but hopefully it'll sort itself out in the coming weeks and working along similar lines on slightly different but complimentary areas will happen.
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