Energy Prices: Don't Pay Campaign
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Karl Masks
Birds Angel Delight
If Hopkins is involved I'd be worried. What's her angle? She dont care about poors, she's made a career insulting people worse off than she
cybershot
Well-Known Member
The same as always. Attention, and the sort of crowd that will lap it up. (no offence to those who back this idea here!
)Karl Masks
Birds Angel Delight
More than that tho, we all know her history of shit disturbance and her choice of media allies (didn't she work for fascist Gavin Macinnes'? Founder of the Proud Boys?)The same as always. Attention, and the sort of crowd that will lap it up. (no offence to those who back this idea here!
LDC
On est tous des pangolins
Generally it is going to be hard to stop the conspiracy theory, right wing types (rather than unaligned people with a mix of ideas), etc trying to assert control. Guess best way it prioritize local groups and work rather than national Zoom meetings where they thrive.
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She's not involved. She's just talking about it.
LDC
On est tous des pangolins
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chainsawjob
Kipping in the dunes
Ooo, exciting, the map of where campaigners are based now has 2 showing in my area, it's not just me on my lonesome anymore! And since I signed up, it's jumped from 5,000 odd to 14,000 odd.
Following the zoom meeting last Thursday, I've set up a Telegram chat for my area (as they suggested people do), and given it to the organisers, so anyone who signs up can be given it and get in touch with others in their area. I spoke to another guy from Hampshire on the zoom, but he was the other end of the county to me.
Following the zoom meeting last Thursday, I've set up a Telegram chat for my area (as they suggested people do), and given it to the organisers, so anyone who signs up can be given it and get in touch with others in their area. I spoke to another guy from Hampshire on the zoom, but he was the other end of the county to me.
LDC
On est tous des pangolins
Yeah, similar, my small area (town of 15,000) has gone from 4 to 16 signed up, but bit unclear to me with the map if that's just organisers or people signed to not pay? Must be the later right?
LDC
On est tous des pangolins
No, you could just stop paying. But guess the point is partly to collectivize it so it feels like not just individuals doing it, the companies won't know who's involved. I think one of the side benefits of this is as so many people anyway are likely to stop paying this autumn/winter, or have problems paying, it'll be impossible for the energy companies to know who is doing it as part of the campaign, and who is doing it anyway because they're struggling but never have heard about the Don't Pay thing. That'll help build pressure on them even more.
kenny g
Sheeple Awake!
Nope. It is completely your choice at all times
chainsawjob
Kipping in the dunes
Yeah, when I signed up there didn't seem to be anywhere to just pledge to do it/support it, only for signing up to be an organiser (just looked again, and afaict that's still the caseYeah, similar, my small area (town of 15,000) has gone from 4 to 16 signed up, but bit unclear to me with the map if that's just organisers or people signed to not pay? Must be the later right?
). So I did that.
danski
"vibey"
In case I wasn’t clear, I was meaning would it be detrimental in some way by not paying but also not signing up?Nope. It is completely your choice at all times
I realise there are benefits in being part of a group but I find such activities difficult.
LDC
On est tous des pangolins
I think it'd only be detrimental to you really, like not being able to be more of a collective thing and get the support from that etc., but probably not in any massively significant way?
kenny g
Sheeple Awake!
Not a problem. Completely understandable and just by the act of cancelling your DD you will have an impact.
chainsawjob
Kipping in the dunes
Excellent.
BristolEcho
Well-Known Member
I'm currently in a bit of a dispute with E.ON as they put up my direct debit when it didn't need to be.
My tarriff ends in October and I'm going to move. Do you think if I stop paying in October I might find it hard to move supplier? Might have to start in November.
My tarriff ends in October and I'm going to move. Do you think if I stop paying in October I might find it hard to move supplier? Might have to start in November.
BristolEcho
Well-Known Member
Result they just gave me £10 credit on my account.
danski
"vibey"
LDC
On est tous des pangolins
Yeah, people on pre-pays are not going to be able to do it. Maybe one of the (much) longer term demands if it was successful with this would be for people to have their pre-pay meter removed and replaceed with a normal meter (if they wanted).
Rob Ray
Weight is meaningless
I wouldn't be surprised if abstracting to get around pre-pays rises through this period as well tbh. I mean the alternative is basically just "don't have electricity" and if there's going to be one serious cultural impact from Don't Pay as a campaign it'll be to bust the myth that these companies have a moral right to charge what they are.
On Hopkins, if she's sniffing around that's both a good and a bad sign I'd reckon. Good because people like her are very attuned to what's going places so they can glom on early. Bad because people like her glomming on will be an influence pushing both a jingoistic interpretation of the situation (eg. "this is all the foreigners' fault for owning our electric" rather than "companies all act like this when they have cartel power and shareholders to please") and attempting to discredit and oust left influences. Every chance she'll grab a GB News slot at some point saying "I supported Don't Pay to start with, then I realised it's a marxist plot" type shite as well.
On Hopkins, if she's sniffing around that's both a good and a bad sign I'd reckon. Good because people like her are very attuned to what's going places so they can glom on early. Bad because people like her glomming on will be an influence pushing both a jingoistic interpretation of the situation (eg. "this is all the foreigners' fault for owning our electric" rather than "companies all act like this when they have cartel power and shareholders to please") and attempting to discredit and oust left influences. Every chance she'll grab a GB News slot at some point saying "I supported Don't Pay to start with, then I realised it's a marxist plot" type shite as well.
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At least she "supported it to start with" rather than starting it herself.
This could easily have been a right wing project at the outset, aimed at Net Zero, the fracking ban, immigrants using all our gas etc.
Thank fuck someone picked up the ball before they did.
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