Let's have a class thread! It'll be fun!

[ymu]

Unlike most class threads, I'm going to start with a definition of what I mean by class.

In common with the majority of posts on class threads, the definition I'm using it a bit ... well, different.

So is this one 'different' in a good way or a bad way, and how would you deal with it snappily to cover what you consider the core issues?

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If your fortunes are pegged to continued generous patronage by the financial and political elites, then you are middle class.

If your working life more resembles the purchase, warehousing, sale and disposal of an inanimate commodity, then you are working-class.

But anyone who has to work for a living is working-class by definition, so it's up to you to work out which side your bread is really buttered.

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I'm not saying it's a great start, but there are places I post where if you use the word class, people get all weird and the Citizen Smith gags come out (yeah, it's an old crowd, which makes it even worse). It inhibits discussion to lack a clear and simple definition that any apolitical fool can grasp.

Halp?

 

[gunneradt]

Is working clase defined by not being able to spell you're?

 

[Callie]

It inhibits discussion to lack a clear and simple definition that any apolitical fool can grasp.

I'm not sure exactly what level of understanding you are aiming this at. At work if I have to explain something to someone who knows nothing about what I am trying to explain I really have to use terminology they will understand too. No point using fancy pants words or terminology if you want to be fully understood.

If your fortunes are pegged to continued generous patronage by the financial and political elites, then you are middle class.

If your working life more resembles the purchase, warehousing, sale and disposal of an inanimate commodity, then you are working-class.

I don't think those are clear and simple definitions. But then I am an apolitical fool.

 

[past caring]

Is working clase defined by not being able to spell you're?

Or use invereted commas appropriately.

Btw, do one cunt.

 

[Callie]

Or spell class.

Or spell inverted.

Or know how to use the multi quote function.

 

[bi0boy]

Or know how to use the multi quote function.

Or hyphens.

 

[Pickman's model]

Unlike most class threads, I'm going to start with a definition of what I mean by class.

In common with the majority of posts on class threads, the definition I'm using it a bit ... well, different.

So is this one 'different' in a good way or a bad way, and how would you deal with it snappily to cover what you consider the core issues?

---------

If your fortunes are pegged to continued generous patronage by the financial and political elites, then you are middle class.

If your working life more resembles the purchase, warehousing, sale and disposal of an inanimate commodity, then you are working-class.

But anyone who has to work for a living is working-class by definition, so it's up to you to work out which side your bread is really buttered.

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I'm not saying it's a great start, but there are places I post where if you use the word class, people get all weird and the Citizen Smith gags come out (yeah, it's an old crowd, which makes it even worse). It inhibits discussion to lack a clear and simple definition that any apolitical fool can grasp.

Halp?

i don't know why you think that you have to be 'political' to grasp the fairly clear and simple definitions of class which abound.

 

[Pickman's model]

Is working clase defined by not being able to spell you're?

you thick fuck.

 

[EastEnder]

If you spend all your time fretting about class, you're probably middle class.

 

[Geri]

If you spend all your time fretting about class, you're probably middle class.

Not true. I am obsessed by it despite being working class. Although I do notice your get out of "probably".

 

[goldenecitrone]

Voting Yes in the AV referendum obviously makes you middle class. Voting No makes you a tory. Simples.

 

[Steel Icarus]

If you spend all your time fretting about class, you're probably middle class.

I thought you were middle-class if you said that class doesn't matter, or it's an outdated concept.

 

[Jon-of-arc]

What's so great about being working class, anyway? All the supposed working classes round here go around talking like their shit can't stink, use middle class as a not-so-veiled insult to imply any number of vaguely defined defects of charecter & lack of backbone, and generally think they are better than everyone else because their parents didn't have much money. Strangely, it seems no matter how poor I get in adulthood, I will always be "middle class" due to my background. Conversely, no matter how upwardly mobile many urbanites become, because of their "roots" (lol) they can lay claim to a proper "working class upbringing" and can snort derisively at anyone who hasn't had same.

What's up with that, yo?

 

[DotCommunist]

I thought you were middle-class if you said that class doesn't matter, or it's an outdated concept.

thats p/b thatcherite tory.

 

[Pickman's model]

Voting Yes in the AV referendum obviously makes you middle class. Voting No makes you a tory. Simples.

what about not bothering to vote at all?

 

[Pickman's model]

What's so great about being working class, anyway? All the supposed working classes round here go around talking like their shit can't stink, use middle class as a not-so-veiled insult to imply any number of vaguely defined defects of charecter & lack of backbone, and generally think they are better than everyone else because their parents didn't have much money. Strangely, it seems no matter how poor I get in adulthood, I will always be "middle class" due to my background. Conversely, no matter how upwardly mobile many urbanites become, because of their "roots" (lol) they can lay claim to a proper "working class upbringing" and can snort derisively at anyone who hasn't had same.

What's up with that, yo?

'yo'? what the fuck?

 

[Callie]

what about not bothering to vote at all?

apolitical fool

 

[Pickman's model]

apolitical fool

right. so the 58% of people registered to vote who didn't bother are all fools.

 

[past caring]

What's up with that, yo?

 

[gunneradt]

you thick fuck.

hark who's talking

 

[skitr]

hark who's talking

You spelt class wrong, in case you didn't notice.

 

[gunneradt]

You spelt class wrong, in case you didn't notice.

too true

still a typo is intellectually way ahead of those who don't know basic grammar

 

[_angel_]

too true

still a typo is intellectually way ahead of those who don't know basic grammar

No capitals or punctuation either. Hell I do it, but if you want to pull people up about spelling and grammar, you'd better be faultless yourself.

 

[gunneradt]

No capitals or punctuation either. Hell I do it, but if you want to pull people up about spelling and grammar, you'd better be faultless yourself.

I find that those who do not know the difference between 'your' and 'you're' are at the poor side of shabby

 

[Pickman's model]

I find that those who do not know the difference between 'your' and 'you're' are at the poor side of shabby

you don't get out much, do you?

 

[ymu]

Is working clase defined by not being able to spell you're?

No. Middle-class is calling a homophonic mental-typo as evidence of illiteracy, in the absence of anything more convincing than mindless snobbery in their armoury.

 

[Callie]

right. so the 58% of people registered to vote who didn't bother are all fools.

No, just your mum.

(have we gone back to being serious now?)

 

[Pickman's model]

No, just your mum.

(have we gone back to being serious now?)

my mum voted.

 

[Jon-of-arc]

'yo'? what the fuck?

how dare I? How - fucking - dare - I?

 

[Pickman's model]

how dare I? How - fucking - dare - I?

yes. i'm glad you're questioning your actions now, but it would have been better if you'd asked yourself what you hoped to achieve before you posted.