These last two parts can be found
here. As before, it is quite a long interview so I have given a guide to the order of subjects we talked about, starting with the second part:
* whether there are still undercover spies deployed in political groups at the moment and whether the spies are still having intimate relationships with the people they have been sent to spy on. (Britain's most senior police officer,
Bernard Hogan-Howe, is -
according to this - not sure that his spies have stopped sleeping with their targets);
* how police and campaigners are constantly trying to outwit each other over the unmasking of undercover spies;
* how suspected police infiltrator Rod Richardson appears to have
adopted the identity of a baby who died two days after being born;
* how ex-police spy
Peter Francis has disclosed what he did undercover, compared to
Mark Kennedy who has yet to tell the truth of his secret mission;
* how police sent
Francis and other spies to infiltrate the groups that were campaigning for a proper investigation into the racist murder of
Stephen Lawrence;
* how police chiefs threatened to
prosecute Francis on several occasionsfor breaking the official secrets act;
* can the public trust the police to investigate themselves over the allegations of misconduct by the undercover spies;
* how
Bob Lambert is alleged to have set fire to a Debenhams store when he was undercover and whether he may have been authorised to do so;
* how Lambert
skilfully obtained vital intelligence to enable police to capture an animal rights activist, Geoff Sheppard, without arousing any suspicion against himself;
* how Kennedy
spied abroad in countries such as Germany, Iceland and Denmark and
police exchanged intelligence across borders;
* the motivations of Kennedy and how
campaigners managed to unmaskhim and other undercover spies.
The third part of the interview is
here :
* the undercover infiltration of right-wing groups such as
Combat 18;
* the differences between undercover officers who infiltrate political groups (to collect intelligence) and those who penetrate serious criminal gangs (to gather evidence);
* the
infiltration of anarchist groups such as Class War, and the reasons for the establishment
of the National Public Order Intelligence Unit in the late 1990s;
* What is the
justification for the deployment of undercover spies in political groups;
* the
trauma suffered by women who subsequently discovered
that their long-term partners were police officers;
* the stress,
pressure and confusion experienced by the undercover officers and the neglect of their mental welfare by their superiors;
* the police's policy of
neither confirming nor denying the identities of undercover spies and how the parents of dead children
whose identities were stolen by the police officers will never be told the truth.
Interspersed in the interview are songs including
Baby, I'm an Anarchist!and
Junior Murvin's Police and Thieves.
And to finish, I would like to thank
Yodet and Janey from the Circle A show for taking the trouble to interview me.